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		<title>By: Rhymes With Right</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/05/08/the-inevitable-result-of-identity-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-49825</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhymes With Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 11:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Belated Watcher&#039;s Council Results -- May 15...&lt;/strong&gt;

Here is that second belated Watcher&#039;s Council results post, from May 15. Council Submissions First place with 1 2/3 points! - Joshua Pundit - The Two State Solution Fallacy Second place with 1 1/3 points - The Colossus of Rhodey......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Belated Watcher&#8217;s Council Results &#8212; May 15&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Here is that second belated Watcher&#8217;s Council results post, from May 15. Council Submissions First place with 1 2/3 points! &#8211; Joshua Pundit &#8211; The Two State Solution Fallacy Second place with 1 1/3 points &#8211; The Colossus of Rhodey&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Watcher of Weasels &#187; Q: What Does A Two State Solution and A Blood Tax Have in Commom?</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/05/08/the-inevitable-result-of-identity-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-49392</link>
		<dc:creator>Watcher of Weasels &#187; Q: What Does A Two State Solution and A Blood Tax Have in Commom?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 03:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Fourth place with 1/3 points - (T*) - Bookworm Room - The inevitable result of identity politics [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Charles Martel</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/05/08/the-inevitable-result-of-identity-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-49327</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Martel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 01:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wolf:

Go here to see what Michelle Malkin wrote about Miller Beer&#039;s sponsorship of the Folsom Street Fair and the Last Supper-like poster that stirred so much controversy:

http://michellemalkin.com/2007/09/27/miller-beer-steps-in-it-again-the-folsom-street-fair-fiasco/

The search terms &quot;Folsom Street Fair Miller&quot; are enough to get you started.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wolf:</p>
<p>Go here to see what Michelle Malkin wrote about Miller Beer&#8217;s sponsorship of the Folsom Street Fair and the Last Supper-like poster that stirred so much controversy:</p>
<p><a href="http://michellemalkin.com/2007/09/27/miller-beer-steps-in-it-again-the-folsom-street-fair-fiasco/" rel="nofollow">http://michellemalkin.com/2007/09/27/miller-beer-steps-in-it-again-the-folsom-street-fair-fiasco/</a></p>
<p>The search terms &#8220;Folsom Street Fair Miller&#8221; are enough to get you started.</p>
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		<title>By: Wolf Howling</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/05/08/the-inevitable-result-of-identity-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-49323</link>
		<dc:creator>Wolf Howling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 00:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A superb essay, BWR.  The gay community is becoming particularly aggressive in pursuing their brand of identity politics.  

If I may, I was going to do a post on the unbelievably aggressive push on gay rights in Britain and wanted to include a reference therein to a post you did a long time ago about a fair of sorts held in SF that invovled gay man.  It included a poster with gay men in a last supper pose.  I can&#039;t find the post you did on it.  If you happen to remember, would you mind e-mailing it or putting it in a comment on this string.  Thanks.     

Hmmm, as to identity politics, we seem to be at least topicly in sync on Watcher&#039;s Council posts.  I am almost tempted to ask what we shall write on for next week&#039;s submission.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A superb essay, BWR.  The gay community is becoming particularly aggressive in pursuing their brand of identity politics.  </p>
<p>If I may, I was going to do a post on the unbelievably aggressive push on gay rights in Britain and wanted to include a reference therein to a post you did a long time ago about a fair of sorts held in SF that invovled gay man.  It included a poster with gay men in a last supper pose.  I can&#8217;t find the post you did on it.  If you happen to remember, would you mind e-mailing it or putting it in a comment on this string.  Thanks.     </p>
<p>Hmmm, as to identity politics, we seem to be at least topicly in sync on Watcher&#8217;s Council posts.  I am almost tempted to ask what we shall write on for next week&#8217;s submission.</p>
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		<title>By: Soccer Dad</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/05/08/the-inevitable-result-of-identity-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-49282</link>
		<dc:creator>Soccer Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 10:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Submitted 05/14/09...&lt;/strong&gt;

This week&#039;s Watcher&#039;s Council nominations are UP! Barack Stewie Obama - Right Truth examines the President through the lens of &quot;South Park.&quot; The Nightmare of Dr. Shirley Pigott - The Provocateur tells a disturbing story about the misuse of power in...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Submitted 05/14/09&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>This week&#8217;s Watcher&#8217;s Council nominations are UP! Barack Stewie Obama &#8211; Right Truth examines the President through the lens of &#8220;South Park.&#8221; The Nightmare of Dr. Shirley Pigott &#8211; The Provocateur tells a disturbing story about the misuse of power in&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Colossus of Rhodey</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/05/08/the-inevitable-result-of-identity-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-49247</link>
		<dc:creator>The Colossus of Rhodey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 23:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Watcher&#039;s Council nominations...&lt;/strong&gt;

 * Soccer Dad - The purple prose of cairo * Right Truth - Barack Stewie Obama * The Provocateur - The Nightmare of Dr. Shirley Pigott * Bookworm Room - The inevitable result of identity politics * The Colossus......</description>
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<p> * Soccer Dad &#8211; The purple prose of cairo * Right Truth &#8211; Barack Stewie Obama * The Provocateur &#8211; The Nightmare of Dr. Shirley Pigott * Bookworm Room &#8211; The inevitable result of identity politics * The Colossus&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Watcher of Weasels &#187; Regulator Watch: FDA Regulators Claim Cheerios Is a Drug</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/05/08/the-inevitable-result-of-identity-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-49226</link>
		<dc:creator>Watcher of Weasels &#187; Regulator Watch: FDA Regulators Claim Cheerios Is a Drug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 18:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Bookworm Room - The inevitable result of identity politics [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Rhymes With Right</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/05/08/the-inevitable-result-of-identity-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-49063</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhymes With Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 22:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If conservatives were to go after gay political figures like this, we would be condemned as homophobic hatemongers who were violating the privacy rights of adults.

On the other hand, when liberals do it they are lauded as heroes.

Interestingly enough, it isn&#039;t conservatives who do this sort of thing at all -- so who are the real hatemongers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If conservatives were to go after gay political figures like this, we would be condemned as homophobic hatemongers who were violating the privacy rights of adults.</p>
<p>On the other hand, when liberals do it they are lauded as heroes.</p>
<p>Interestingly enough, it isn&#8217;t conservatives who do this sort of thing at all &#8212; so who are the real hatemongers?</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/05/08/the-inevitable-result-of-identity-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-49055</link>
		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 15:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember some damning specifics on this case as well. The Left and idolitard moderates kept repeating that Sarah Palin was extreme, a polarizing figure, that she would make schools teach abstinence against the rights of the children or the wishes of the family.

Well, we got Obama making federal funding mandatory on tax payer dollars for abortion. Whether you agree with abortion or not, whether you need it or not. Tax payers going to fund, mimis.

And then it was about political corruption and how Sarah Palin was corrupt or abused her authority in Alaska. Now we have Obama the fooking the magistrate of Rome having airplanes over New York City and embarrassing us to the entire world and making us look triple the fools, not to mention bowing down to Saudi Arabia, kissing the ass of Hugo Chavez, and spreading it for the Mullah Counter-Revolutionary &quot;Sharia&quot; squad. Not to mention the tax cheating frauds that Obama nominated as worthy of telling the rest of us how to pay our taxes and how much of it to pay. But the Republikkans, now they were the real corrupt culture, yannow Pillow C.

Every single political issue used to convince the weak willed, sissy moth ball flying moderates to vote Democrat or even that the Republicans were not worthy of the vote, was 1000% true for Obama, and only for Obama and the Left.

Propaganda is not about the truth, mind you. Thus it doesn&#039;t matter whether the Republicans are worthy or have problems, just as it doesn&#039;t matter whether atrocities happened or not in Iraq. The goal of propaganda is to manipulate the perception of individuals, through their emotions or other avenues of contact, to make them think what you want them to think, in order to ultimately make them act the way you want them to act.

And it doesn&#039;t matter if you use 99.999% of the truth or only .01% of the truth in propaganda. It doesn&#039;t matter if they know they are being manipulated or think they are &quot;independent&quot; fracking thinkers that came up with this sweet idea of &quot;Obamanation&quot; on their own or not. If it works, it works. If they do what you want, they have done what you have wanted. Just like an atom bomb will incinerate your pathetic little house made of wood regardless of whether you are evil, good, an environmentalist, or an idiot. Not to imply, of course, that environmentalists and idiots are mutually exclusive spheres of existence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember some damning specifics on this case as well. The Left and idolitard moderates kept repeating that Sarah Palin was extreme, a polarizing figure, that she would make schools teach abstinence against the rights of the children or the wishes of the family.</p>
<p>Well, we got Obama making federal funding mandatory on tax payer dollars for abortion. Whether you agree with abortion or not, whether you need it or not. Tax payers going to fund, mimis.</p>
<p>And then it was about political corruption and how Sarah Palin was corrupt or abused her authority in Alaska. Now we have Obama the fooking the magistrate of Rome having airplanes over New York City and embarrassing us to the entire world and making us look triple the fools, not to mention bowing down to Saudi Arabia, kissing the ass of Hugo Chavez, and spreading it for the Mullah Counter-Revolutionary &#8220;Sharia&#8221; squad. Not to mention the tax cheating frauds that Obama nominated as worthy of telling the rest of us how to pay our taxes and how much of it to pay. But the Republikkans, now they were the real corrupt culture, yannow Pillow C.</p>
<p>Every single political issue used to convince the weak willed, sissy moth ball flying moderates to vote Democrat or even that the Republicans were not worthy of the vote, was 1000% true for Obama, and only for Obama and the Left.</p>
<p>Propaganda is not about the truth, mind you. Thus it doesn&#8217;t matter whether the Republicans are worthy or have problems, just as it doesn&#8217;t matter whether atrocities happened or not in Iraq. The goal of propaganda is to manipulate the perception of individuals, through their emotions or other avenues of contact, to make them think what you want them to think, in order to ultimately make them act the way you want them to act.</p>
<p>And it doesn&#8217;t matter if you use 99.999% of the truth or only .01% of the truth in propaganda. It doesn&#8217;t matter if they know they are being manipulated or think they are &#8220;independent&#8221; fracking thinkers that came up with this sweet idea of &#8220;Obamanation&#8221; on their own or not. If it works, it works. If they do what you want, they have done what you have wanted. Just like an atom bomb will incinerate your pathetic little house made of wood regardless of whether you are evil, good, an environmentalist, or an idiot. Not to imply, of course, that environmentalists and idiots are mutually exclusive spheres of existence.</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 15:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;B&gt;It’s not much different from the assault on Sarah Palin (or Ms. Prejean) for simply being a committed Christian, with conservative values.&lt;/b&gt;

I think to a certain extent, Libertarians, some Republicans (Like Olympia Snow and the anti-Palin clique), along with almost the entire base of the Democrat party, are unable to resist propaganda. They don&#039;t know what it is, but they think they do. They think they are talking about propaganda and unconventional war, but all they are talking about is an illusion in their heads.

This is demonstrated by how easy they are to manipulate and how they never question the contradictions inherent in their positions.

Thus, Obama voters can vote for Obama and say this is because Palin was an extremist and Bush a right wing warmonger, and then when Obama starts being recklessly dangerous in promoting war abroad and when Obama is nationalizing industries ala Banana Republics/Venezuella, the Left says &quot;Obama is our leader, toe the line or you aren&#039;t an American&quot;.

For the &quot;muddy middle&quot;, however, things are slightly different but not fundamentally. For those people, they didn&#039;t care for Sarah Palin and saw her as a &quot;polarizing figure&quot;. All the while, they were fooled by Obama&#039;s &quot;moderate guise&quot; and told the rest of us that &quot;Obama would be a moderate&quot; or &quot;they hope Obama would be a moderate&quot;. They didn&#039;t hope the same things about Sarah Palin. Why? Because their minds got jacked and owned by the media news, interviews, and George Soros strategies, that&#039;s why.

Their minds are not their own. Their opinions are not even their own. They can be made to think, to believe, or to feel whatever propagandists tell them to.

And that, irrespective of any single political difference I have for them, is why they are a liability as well as worthy of contempt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>It’s not much different from the assault on Sarah Palin (or Ms. Prejean) for simply being a committed Christian, with conservative values.</b></p>
<p>I think to a certain extent, Libertarians, some Republicans (Like Olympia Snow and the anti-Palin clique), along with almost the entire base of the Democrat party, are unable to resist propaganda. They don&#8217;t know what it is, but they think they do. They think they are talking about propaganda and unconventional war, but all they are talking about is an illusion in their heads.</p>
<p>This is demonstrated by how easy they are to manipulate and how they never question the contradictions inherent in their positions.</p>
<p>Thus, Obama voters can vote for Obama and say this is because Palin was an extremist and Bush a right wing warmonger, and then when Obama starts being recklessly dangerous in promoting war abroad and when Obama is nationalizing industries ala Banana Republics/Venezuella, the Left says &#8220;Obama is our leader, toe the line or you aren&#8217;t an American&#8221;.</p>
<p>For the &#8220;muddy middle&#8221;, however, things are slightly different but not fundamentally. For those people, they didn&#8217;t care for Sarah Palin and saw her as a &#8220;polarizing figure&#8221;. All the while, they were fooled by Obama&#8217;s &#8220;moderate guise&#8221; and told the rest of us that &#8220;Obama would be a moderate&#8221; or &#8220;they hope Obama would be a moderate&#8221;. They didn&#8217;t hope the same things about Sarah Palin. Why? Because their minds got jacked and owned by the media news, interviews, and George Soros strategies, that&#8217;s why.</p>
<p>Their minds are not their own. Their opinions are not even their own. They can be made to think, to believe, or to feel whatever propagandists tell them to.</p>
<p>And that, irrespective of any single political difference I have for them, is why they are a liability as well as worthy of contempt.</p>
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