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		<title>By: Charles Martel</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/06/09/the-manchurian-candidate-strikes-again/comment-page-1/#comment-50957</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Martel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One other aspect of the conflict between blacks and Mexicans is the consequence of the neo-genocidal policies of the white liberal elite in this country. With an abortion rate of 35% and a bastardy rate of 70%---spurred on by Margaret Sanger&#039;s stealth racists at Planned Parenthood and almost 50 years of a welfare system that denigrates fatherhood---blacks are looking on in dismay as their numbers stagnate and Mexicans&#039; numbers grow robustly.

I don&#039;t know how many &quot;doh&quot; moments blacks need before they wake up and realize that the same party that fought for years to keep them under Jim Crow has now labored for two generations to strip them of their manhood, respect for marriage, work ethic and appreciation for education. 

But I suppose that as long as race hustlers like Obama, Wright, Sharpton and Jackson can live high on the hog, and as long as there are white con artists who can lure in gullible types like Helen to accept the idea of black inferiority by explaining away black pathology as some sort of colorful, intuitive, separate form of reality, racism in this country is going to have a great shelf life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One other aspect of the conflict between blacks and Mexicans is the consequence of the neo-genocidal policies of the white liberal elite in this country. With an abortion rate of 35% and a bastardy rate of 70%&#8212;spurred on by Margaret Sanger&#8217;s stealth racists at Planned Parenthood and almost 50 years of a welfare system that denigrates fatherhood&#8212;blacks are looking on in dismay as their numbers stagnate and Mexicans&#8217; numbers grow robustly.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how many &#8220;doh&#8221; moments blacks need before they wake up and realize that the same party that fought for years to keep them under Jim Crow has now labored for two generations to strip them of their manhood, respect for marriage, work ethic and appreciation for education. </p>
<p>But I suppose that as long as race hustlers like Obama, Wright, Sharpton and Jackson can live high on the hog, and as long as there are white con artists who can lure in gullible types like Helen to accept the idea of black inferiority by explaining away black pathology as some sort of colorful, intuitive, separate form of reality, racism in this country is going to have a great shelf life.</p>
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		<title>By: suek</title>
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		<dc:creator>suek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;...Sunnis did not, because they had not been made to feel the terror and the damnation of what real “negativity” and “occupation” was.&gt;&gt;

The Sunnis did not because they had the power under Saddam.  People don&#039;t give up power easily.  We have the expression &quot;he&#039;s on a power trip&quot;...it&#039;s real.  It&#039;s a form of mental disease, imo.  Until the Sunnis were made to understand that they absolutely did not have the power any longer, they were not amenable to negotiating.  Once they realized that the power was gone, they negotiated to get the best deal they could.  They also realized that having lost that power, that unless the US military stood between them and the Shia that they had abused for so long, they were toast.

The goal of people like Helen in the US is to stir up the same kind of power conflict between blacks and whites.  It hasn&#039;t worked so far for two reasons: first, blacks actually can enter the middle class if they&#039;re willing to work; second, those who are not willing to work seem reasonably content on the dole.  Sure they want more, but they&#039;re willing to settle for less if it means they can get it without effort.  At this point, I think the next point of conflict is between the mexicans and the blacks.  They compete for the same jobs, and the mexicans - having been oppressed by _real_ poverty - are willing to work the hard jobs.  Blacks _used_ to be in this category, but aren&#039;t willing to do the hard jobs any more, so they&#039;re being replaced by mexicans.  I&#039;d think, myself, that the blacks would be the most active group in wanting illegal immigration stopped, but for some reason, they just don&#039;t seem to care very much.  I guess they&#039;re confident that their no effort bennies are going to keep coming - and maybe even get better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;&#8230;Sunnis did not, because they had not been made to feel the terror and the damnation of what real “negativity” and “occupation” was.&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>The Sunnis did not because they had the power under Saddam.  People don&#8217;t give up power easily.  We have the expression &#8220;he&#8217;s on a power trip&#8221;&#8230;it&#8217;s real.  It&#8217;s a form of mental disease, imo.  Until the Sunnis were made to understand that they absolutely did not have the power any longer, they were not amenable to negotiating.  Once they realized that the power was gone, they negotiated to get the best deal they could.  They also realized that having lost that power, that unless the US military stood between them and the Shia that they had abused for so long, they were toast.</p>
<p>The goal of people like Helen in the US is to stir up the same kind of power conflict between blacks and whites.  It hasn&#8217;t worked so far for two reasons: first, blacks actually can enter the middle class if they&#8217;re willing to work; second, those who are not willing to work seem reasonably content on the dole.  Sure they want more, but they&#8217;re willing to settle for less if it means they can get it without effort.  At this point, I think the next point of conflict is between the mexicans and the blacks.  They compete for the same jobs, and the mexicans &#8211; having been oppressed by _real_ poverty &#8211; are willing to work the hard jobs.  Blacks _used_ to be in this category, but aren&#8217;t willing to do the hard jobs any more, so they&#8217;re being replaced by mexicans.  I&#8217;d think, myself, that the blacks would be the most active group in wanting illegal immigration stopped, but for some reason, they just don&#8217;t seem to care very much.  I guess they&#8217;re confident that their no effort bennies are going to keep coming &#8211; and maybe even get better.</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/06/09/the-manchurian-candidate-strikes-again/comment-page-1/#comment-50943</link>
		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be a mistake to gloss over the fact that positive messages make people receptive only in cases of truly terrible circumstances, such as the Carter generated economic disaster when Reagan was campaigning.

The easiest and most assuredly reliable means of making people love one thing is to give them reasons to hate and fear another.

Planning a strategy around &quot;positive messages&quot; while blinding yourself to the fact that no positive message was ever conceived in a vacuum devoid of negative consequences and beliefs, would result in an ultimate disaster.

Obama avoided this, because he had his saboteurs, traitors, and character assassins working in the background on his political opponents. If that is the &quot;positive&quot; way to victory people want to advocate, they must bear with the consequences of just what Obama&#039;s &quot;positive&#039; message was derived from.

People made the same mistake with Iraq. They thought that if they just played patty cake and was &quot;positive&quot; about &quot;democracy&quot; and &quot;freedom&quot; that the Iraqis would come on board. While certainly many Iraqis did come on board, the Sunnis did not. And the Sunnis did not, because they had not been made to feel the terror and the damnation of what real &quot;negativity&quot; and &quot;occupation&quot; was. They had no context from which to make informed judgments about America. Al Qaeda gave them that context. It was not just a bunch of sappy happy kids floating around US Marines that gave us victory.

People should not forget that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be a mistake to gloss over the fact that positive messages make people receptive only in cases of truly terrible circumstances, such as the Carter generated economic disaster when Reagan was campaigning.</p>
<p>The easiest and most assuredly reliable means of making people love one thing is to give them reasons to hate and fear another.</p>
<p>Planning a strategy around &#8220;positive messages&#8221; while blinding yourself to the fact that no positive message was ever conceived in a vacuum devoid of negative consequences and beliefs, would result in an ultimate disaster.</p>
<p>Obama avoided this, because he had his saboteurs, traitors, and character assassins working in the background on his political opponents. If that is the &#8220;positive&#8221; way to victory people want to advocate, they must bear with the consequences of just what Obama&#8217;s &#8220;positive&#8217; message was derived from.</p>
<p>People made the same mistake with Iraq. They thought that if they just played patty cake and was &#8220;positive&#8221; about &#8220;democracy&#8221; and &#8220;freedom&#8221; that the Iraqis would come on board. While certainly many Iraqis did come on board, the Sunnis did not. And the Sunnis did not, because they had not been made to feel the terror and the damnation of what real &#8220;negativity&#8221; and &#8220;occupation&#8221; was. They had no context from which to make informed judgments about America. Al Qaeda gave them that context. It was not just a bunch of sappy happy kids floating around US Marines that gave us victory.</p>
<p>People should not forget that.</p>
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		<title>By: Earl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Earl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Al and BrianE:  I&#039;ll buy the &quot;positive message&quot; meme, SO LONG AS the positive message includes the information about what the results of Obama&#039;s policies &quot;positively&quot; WILL BE, if we adopt them.

The health scheme is the big one on the horizon right now.  We have ABUNDANT empirical evidence of what is going to happen if his plan is adopted -- Medicare, Canada, Great Britain.  Why there aren&#039;t half a dozen Republicans giving a speech EVERY DAY (it could be different guys each day) on this subject, and &quot;positively&quot; explaining to the American people what is about to happen to their medical care, is something I cannot understand.

The AMA has JUST gotten out there with a rejection of Obamacare - where the h**l have they been?  Where are the pharmaceutical companies, the hospital representative groups, and so on and on.  Our problem isn&#039;t that the message has been negative, it&#039;s that NO message is being given.  Much as I love the alternative media, the blogs telling the truth about this stuff hardly count in terms of turning back the tide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Al and BrianE:  I&#8217;ll buy the &#8220;positive message&#8221; meme, SO LONG AS the positive message includes the information about what the results of Obama&#8217;s policies &#8220;positively&#8221; WILL BE, if we adopt them.</p>
<p>The health scheme is the big one on the horizon right now.  We have ABUNDANT empirical evidence of what is going to happen if his plan is adopted &#8212; Medicare, Canada, Great Britain.  Why there aren&#8217;t half a dozen Republicans giving a speech EVERY DAY (it could be different guys each day) on this subject, and &#8220;positively&#8221; explaining to the American people what is about to happen to their medical care, is something I cannot understand.</p>
<p>The AMA has JUST gotten out there with a rejection of Obamacare &#8211; where the h**l have they been?  Where are the pharmaceutical companies, the hospital representative groups, and so on and on.  Our problem isn&#8217;t that the message has been negative, it&#8217;s that NO message is being given.  Much as I love the alternative media, the blogs telling the truth about this stuff hardly count in terms of turning back the tide.</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian E is right that the most effective way to rally the troops and turn this herd of lemmings away from the cliff is to develop and broadcast a positive message. Obama had a positive if vacuous message in &quot;Yes we can.&quot; That message succeeded because the media-liberal-political complex forced it down the electorates&#039; throats while snuffing out critical discussion.
One of the things I find bothersome is that so many of us buy much of the lib propaganda.
The phrase &quot;Greedy Wall Street Brokers&quot; is just as invalid as &quot;Lazy Mexicans&quot; or &quot;Wellfare Abusing Blacks&quot;. Greedy Wall Street Brokers did not cause the economic meltdown.The meltdown was caused by the enactment of financially irresponsible banking policies by the Democrats in Congress, and the thuggish enforcement of those policies on the banks by the Dems in government and their friends in the Liberal &quot;non profit&quot; community organizing groups. Just read Chris Cantrell&#039;s discussion of Thomas Sowell&#039;s book in yesterday&#039;s AT.
We need a leader with a positive message. I guess my angry rhetoric is partially a result of the lack of such a leader. But it is still true.
Sarah has always looked good.
Al</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian E is right that the most effective way to rally the troops and turn this herd of lemmings away from the cliff is to develop and broadcast a positive message. Obama had a positive if vacuous message in &#8220;Yes we can.&#8221; That message succeeded because the media-liberal-political complex forced it down the electorates&#8217; throats while snuffing out critical discussion.<br />
One of the things I find bothersome is that so many of us buy much of the lib propaganda.<br />
The phrase &#8220;Greedy Wall Street Brokers&#8221; is just as invalid as &#8220;Lazy Mexicans&#8221; or &#8220;Wellfare Abusing Blacks&#8221;. Greedy Wall Street Brokers did not cause the economic meltdown.The meltdown was caused by the enactment of financially irresponsible banking policies by the Democrats in Congress, and the thuggish enforcement of those policies on the banks by the Dems in government and their friends in the Liberal &#8220;non profit&#8221; community organizing groups. Just read Chris Cantrell&#8217;s discussion of Thomas Sowell&#8217;s book in yesterday&#8217;s AT.<br />
We need a leader with a positive message. I guess my angry rhetoric is partially a result of the lack of such a leader. But it is still true.<br />
Sarah has always looked good.<br />
Al</p>
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		<title>By: SADIE</title>
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		<dc:creator>SADIE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 02:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gpc31:

Our stammering leader looked like a deer caught in headlights.



Charles Martel:

That&#039;s what we love about you - you are so damn glib!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gpc31:</p>
<p>Our stammering leader looked like a deer caught in headlights.</p>
<p>Charles Martel:</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what we love about you &#8211; you are so damn glib!</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/06/09/the-manchurian-candidate-strikes-again/comment-page-1/#comment-50891</link>
		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 00:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no rule of law. There is only the rule of Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no rule of law. There is only the rule of Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: gpc31</title>
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		<dc:creator>gpc31</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 23:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out this video of Obama stammering through a non-answer of what to do about North Korea.  God help us.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqMdROiM8wU&amp;eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fpajamasmedia%2Ecom%2Frichardfernandez%2F&amp;feature=player_embedded

Hat tip to the Belmont Club</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out this video of Obama stammering through a non-answer of what to do about North Korea.  God help us.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqMdROiM8wU&#038;eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fpajamasmedia%2Ecom%2Frichardfernandez%2F&#038;feature=player_embedded" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqMdROiM8wU&#038;eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fpajamasmedia%2Ecom%2Frichardfernandez%2F&#038;feature=player_embedded</a></p>
<p>Hat tip to the Belmont Club</p>
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		<title>By: gpc31</title>
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		<dc:creator>gpc31</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Oldbill.  Little League requires more certification than does the presidency.  (Original birth certificate; other forms of current residency).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Oldbill.  Little League requires more certification than does the presidency.  (Original birth certificate; other forms of current residency).</p>
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		<title>By: Marguerite</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marguerite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I  want to reply in drive-by mode to Helen, but someone so burdened by white guilt is obviously suffering from incurable university-of-the-left inspired demons and I give up - but I&#039;m glad Charles didn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I  want to reply in drive-by mode to Helen, but someone so burdened by white guilt is obviously suffering from incurable university-of-the-left inspired demons and I give up &#8211; but I&#8217;m glad Charles didn&#8217;t.</p>
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