Comments on: Yeah, what she said about Gov. Sanford

By: SADIE

SADIE — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:47:39 +0000

I don’t know what the comparative stats are between John Q. Public cheaters and their political counterparts.

I betcha, that the ‘political’ cheaters are more adept at it due to the nature of their chosen profession.

My disgust for cheaters is that it reveals that they are liars, too. It’s bad enough that they lie to their partners – but they lie to themselves, which is the ultimate deception (i.e., former Gov.Jim McGreevy) who, I am sure did not wake up one day and realize he is gay. I don’t care that he is gay. I am appalled that he made choices that sacrificed his children because he lied to himself. Mrs. McGreevy, I believe was not a bit surprised, just angry (what was the deal with writing a book about it all) that her ‘position’ as the Gov’s wife was blown. I don’t believe that there are a lot of surprised partners but mostly those that cannot or refuse to take off their rose colored glasses.

In fact, one could parallel the cheaters to politics in general. Very few, if any surprises for any of us – just many of levels of denial.

By: suek

suek — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:16:24 +0000

Mike…you might find this a good read. She wanders a bit, but it’s basically on why the left is “shameless” and the difference between “shame” and “guilt” cultures. Very interesting. It may also raise the question of how you can handle the interactions between the two different cultures. To be honest, I don’t see how.

http://drsanity.blogspot.com/2009/06/theyre-just-not-that-into-you-obama.html

By: Mike Devx

Mike Devx — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:36:59 +0000

Conservatives take honor and integrity much more seriously than liberals do. I guess that’s why when a conservative commits an act such as Gov. Sanford’s, it is seen as a more serious offense.

We don’t want to stone them, pillory them, or brand them. But we expect better from our leaders. Some of us will forgive one such mistake. But some of us won’t – and that’s why their leadership is diminished to the point where often they cannot lead any longer. I suppose that is why they hide it; and that is why they try to bluster, lie and cheat their way out of it when discovered, always making the problem much worse. (Hey, you worthless loser, Sen. Larry Craig, you of the wide bathroom stance, are YOU listening, you piece of offal?)

By: Dennis Elliott

Dennis Elliott — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:02:04 +0000

I’ve observed over more than 3 score years that it takes two to make a divorce just as it takes two to make a marriage. Don’t know what it takes to live with either one of them and divorces amongst celebrities seem never to be very clean so it’s pretty hard to sit in judgement about why he did what he did.

Apalling political judgement for sure, but probably a wash given his alternatives. As a culture, we seem more appalled by divorce any more than philandering. I would have hoped that he would have manned up before rather than after he got caught though. It’s what John Wayne would have done (a little nod to your previous post, Book).

By: johnfromcolumbus

johnfromcolumbus — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:45:06 +0000

Posted May 14, 2009 at Huffington Post

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/johann-hari/so-john-edwards-had-an-af_b_203742.html

Headline: So John Edwards Had An Affair — Grow Up, Adultery Is Not a Political Issue.

“This isn’t about whether you like John Edwards or not. It’s about a choice we all have to make: do we want our political debate to be conducted at the level of the National Enquirer, or does a serious democracy deserve better?”

By: Quisp

Quisp — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 11:10:59 +0000

I’m disappointed, because I’d liked his stand about the state’s stimulus money. He was one of the few who articulated the consequences of creating programs the state would then be on the hook to continue. But I must say it’s nice to be in a forum where people roundly condemn adultery instead of the general newspaper comment threads full of “eh, everybody does it, what’s the big deal.” I find it interesting that the “everybody does it” crowd overlaps deeply with the “he’s hypocritical toast” folks, with Sanford’s key sin being believing he was doing something wrong.

By: Ellen

Ellen — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 09:43:29 +0000

I’m with those who wonder about the man’s state of mind. It seems NO ONE knew where he was! What if there was a disaster in South Carolina? And what is with these guys who can’t be faithful? I was in that situation and I can tell you it kills your soul. All my sympathy is with Mrs. Sanford.

By: on-the-rocks

on-the-rocks — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 03:35:26 +0000

As for Governor Sanford, what part of “to foresake all others” do you not understand?

By: on-the-rocks

on-the-rocks — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 03:33:23 +0000

“Schadenfreude” doesn’t refer to being interested in other people’s sex lives per se, but rather in taking pleasure in their misfortunes.

I am guessing that is the word you were seeking.

By: Deana

Deana — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 01:34:23 +0000

I also would add that Mrs. Sanford’s statement was well done.

I feel for her right now. And her children and parents.