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		<title>By: Soccer Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Soccer Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 10:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Submitted 07/03/09...&lt;/strong&gt;

Watcher council nominations are up. The Libertarians Downfall: Conspiracy Theories - In this excellent essay, The Provocateur investigates the connection between libertarians and conspiracy theories. LIFE - Right Truth contemplates the intersection bet...</description>
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<p>Watcher council nominations are up. The Libertarians Downfall: Conspiracy Theories &#8211; In this excellent essay, The Provocateur investigates the connection between libertarians and conspiracy theories. LIFE &#8211; Right Truth contemplates the intersection bet&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Watcher of Weasels &#187; Democrat or Decepticon?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Watcher of Weasels &#187; Democrat or Decepticon?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: March Hare</title>
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		<dc:creator>March Hare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 07:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I find interesting in the few reviews of &quot;Stoning&quot; that I&#039;ve read is the obsession the reviewers have with the director&#039;s connection with &quot;The Passion of the Christ&quot; and &quot;American Carol.&quot;  They seem to feel this shows that the director is hopelessly ideological--and Not One of Us.  Therefore, the message is automatically discredited.

So why aren&#039;t the ideological creds of other directors mentioned in reviews of those movies, especially Left-wing ideological movies?

Don&#039;t worry--I&#039;m not naive.  The question is rhetorical...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I find interesting in the few reviews of &#8220;Stoning&#8221; that I&#8217;ve read is the obsession the reviewers have with the director&#8217;s connection with &#8220;The Passion of the Christ&#8221; and &#8220;American Carol.&#8221;  They seem to feel this shows that the director is hopelessly ideological&#8211;and Not One of Us.  Therefore, the message is automatically discredited.</p>
<p>So why aren&#8217;t the ideological creds of other directors mentioned in reviews of those movies, especially Left-wing ideological movies?</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry&#8211;I&#8217;m not naive.  The question is rhetorical&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: kali</title>
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		<dc:creator>kali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 01:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Violence is nice and cuddly, like a carebear&quot;

Ymar, it&#039;s certainly something you can share with strangers . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Violence is nice and cuddly, like a carebear&#8221;</p>
<p>Ymar, it&#8217;s certainly something you can share with strangers . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 00:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Violence is nice and cuddly, like a carebear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Violence is nice and cuddly, like a carebear.</p>
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		<title>By: suek</title>
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		<dc:creator>suek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kali...

You raise a good point - violence _can_ have a good end as a result.  And sexual depiction in movies is almost _always_ celebrating adultery, fornication or just simply promiscuity.  One exception is the movie &quot;True Lies&quot; and even that isn&#039;t exactly an exception.  The plot is one in which Schwarzenegger&#039;s &quot;wife&quot; (Jamie Lee Curtis)gets suckered into a spy plan, and Schwarzenegger - who actually _is_ a spy - finds out about it and sets out to teach her a lesson.  Part of that is to seduce a complete stranger (although she is assured that he won&#039;t touch her) by dancing for him.  The &quot;stranger&quot; is actually her husband, but he&#039;s in a darkened room and she can&#039;t recognize him (this part&#039;s a bit weak).  So it&#039;s sexual in a farcical way - pretty unusual in movies.

Besides - the sexual drive is common to virtually all of us - killing and/or blowing people up...not so much.  As a result, the violence in movies is easier to separate ourselves from than the sexual material.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kali&#8230;</p>
<p>You raise a good point &#8211; violence _can_ have a good end as a result.  And sexual depiction in movies is almost _always_ celebrating adultery, fornication or just simply promiscuity.  One exception is the movie &#8220;True Lies&#8221; and even that isn&#8217;t exactly an exception.  The plot is one in which Schwarzenegger&#8217;s &#8220;wife&#8221; (Jamie Lee Curtis)gets suckered into a spy plan, and Schwarzenegger &#8211; who actually _is_ a spy &#8211; finds out about it and sets out to teach her a lesson.  Part of that is to seduce a complete stranger (although she is assured that he won&#8217;t touch her) by dancing for him.  The &#8220;stranger&#8221; is actually her husband, but he&#8217;s in a darkened room and she can&#8217;t recognize him (this part&#8217;s a bit weak).  So it&#8217;s sexual in a farcical way &#8211; pretty unusual in movies.</p>
<p>Besides &#8211; the sexual drive is common to virtually all of us &#8211; killing and/or blowing people up&#8230;not so much.  As a result, the violence in movies is easier to separate ourselves from than the sexual material.</p>
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		<title>By: kali</title>
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		<dc:creator>kali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Teenagers are always fond of pointing out how Americans like violence in their movies, but not sexuality. Well, mine were :)  I always countered that the difference wasn&#039;t based in how violence or sex were depicted, but the underlying morality they promoted. ie, if the violence was in redress of wrongs, or in self-defense, it was acceptable. If the sex celebrated adultery or promiscuity, it wasn&#039;t.  This is a huge generalization, but I still think that it has a core of truth, even in these &quot;anything goes as long as it shocks&quot; days.

In these two movies, the underlying morality is war==bad, stoning==bad.  Whether the level of violence is artistic or sadistic depends on which the reviewer agrees with.

No, I don&#039;t actually think the reviewer of The Stoning of Soraya M. thinks stoning is good, but I&#039;m betting that he/she is caught up in the fear that such depictions will cause the average American to turn savage themselves and start slaughtering their Arab and/or Persian neighbors or worse, clamoring to go to war with Iran.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teenagers are always fond of pointing out how Americans like violence in their movies, but not sexuality. Well, mine were <img src='http://www.bookwormroom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   I always countered that the difference wasn&#8217;t based in how violence or sex were depicted, but the underlying morality they promoted. ie, if the violence was in redress of wrongs, or in self-defense, it was acceptable. If the sex celebrated adultery or promiscuity, it wasn&#8217;t.  This is a huge generalization, but I still think that it has a core of truth, even in these &#8220;anything goes as long as it shocks&#8221; days.</p>
<p>In these two movies, the underlying morality is war==bad, stoning==bad.  Whether the level of violence is artistic or sadistic depends on which the reviewer agrees with.</p>
<p>No, I don&#8217;t actually think the reviewer of The Stoning of Soraya M. thinks stoning is good, but I&#8217;m betting that he/she is caught up in the fear that such depictions will cause the average American to turn savage themselves and start slaughtering their Arab and/or Persian neighbors or worse, clamoring to go to war with Iran.</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They love seeing their enemies blown up. After all, their money went to pay for it so why shouldn&#039;t they get the enjoyment of seeing it here as well.

The Islamic extremists don&#039;t have a conscience. The Left doesn&#039;t have a conscience. They are the same, and it is only attempts to differentiate them that has muddied this war against America&#039;s enemies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They love seeing their enemies blown up. After all, their money went to pay for it so why shouldn&#8217;t they get the enjoyment of seeing it here as well.</p>
<p>The Islamic extremists don&#8217;t have a conscience. The Left doesn&#8217;t have a conscience. They are the same, and it is only attempts to differentiate them that has muddied this war against America&#8217;s enemies.</p>
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