Comments on: The Declaration of Independence and . . . chickens?! http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/07/04/the-declaration-of-independence-and-chickens/ Conservatives deal with facts and reach conclusions; liberals have conclusions and sell them as facts. Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:54:31 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Soccer Dad http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/07/04/the-declaration-of-independence-and-chickens/comment-page-1/#comment-58437 Soccer Dad Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:08:20 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=7248#comment-58437 <strong>Council speak 07/15/09...</strong> The Council has spoken. This week's winning council entry was The Provocateur's How Bonds Work (and How Current Policy Will Wreck Them and the Economy With It), an excellent primer about the bond market and a sobering warning how the administration'... Council speak 07/15/09…

The Council has spoken. This week’s winning council entry was The Provocateur’s How Bonds Work (and How Current Policy Will Wreck Them and the Economy With It), an excellent primer about the bond market and a sobering warning how the administration’…

]]> By: Watcher of Weasels » Watcher’s Winners!! http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/07/04/the-declaration-of-independence-and-chickens/comment-page-1/#comment-57234 Watcher of Weasels » Watcher’s Winners!! Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:03:15 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=7248#comment-57234 [...] Second place with 1 2/3 points – Bookworm Room - The Declaration of Independence . . . and chickens? [...] [...] Second place with 1 2/3 points – Bookworm Room – The Declaration of Independence . . . and chickens? [...]

]]> By: Soccer Dad http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/07/04/the-declaration-of-independence-and-chickens/comment-page-1/#comment-56768 Soccer Dad Thu, 09 Jul 2009 07:24:03 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=7248#comment-56768 <strong>Submitted 07/09/09...</strong> This week's Watcher's Council nominations are up with an intro written by JoshuaPundit about Sarah Palin. how-current-policy.html" target="_blank">How Bonds Work (and How Current Policy Will Wreck Them and the Economy With It) - The Provocateur ex... Submitted 07/09/09…

This week’s Watcher’s Council nominations are up with an intro written by JoshuaPundit about Sarah Palin. how-current-policy.html” target=”_blank”>How Bonds Work (and How Current Policy Will Wreck Them and the Economy With It) – The Provocateur ex…

]]> By: Watcher of Weasels » Sarah Palin Pulls The Trigger http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/07/04/the-declaration-of-independence-and-chickens/comment-page-1/#comment-56419 Watcher of Weasels » Sarah Palin Pulls The Trigger Wed, 08 Jul 2009 06:24:19 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=7248#comment-56419 [...] Bookworm Room - The Declaration of Independence . . . and chickens? [...] [...] Bookworm Room – The Declaration of Independence . . . and chickens? [...]

]]> By: Mike Devx http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/07/04/the-declaration-of-independence-and-chickens/comment-page-1/#comment-56073 Mike Devx Tue, 07 Jul 2009 00:10:26 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=7248#comment-56073 Al #22, Thank you, that is an awesome, amazing tale. It sure looks like genuine coordination and cooperation to me, too. Among chickens! Who-da-thunk-it? Al #22,
Thank you, that is an awesome, amazing tale. It sure looks like genuine coordination and cooperation to me, too. Among chickens! Who-da-thunk-it?

]]> By: SADIE http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/07/04/the-declaration-of-independence-and-chickens/comment-page-1/#comment-55955 SADIE Mon, 06 Jul 2009 18:43:07 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=7248#comment-55955 Al Great story. Your unidentified neighbor was probably a card-carrying member of PETA. Al

Great story.
Your unidentified neighbor was probably a card-carrying member of PETA.

]]> By: Al http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/07/04/the-declaration-of-independence-and-chickens/comment-page-1/#comment-55901 Al Mon, 06 Jul 2009 10:50:13 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=7248#comment-55901 Mike, # 15 I almost think they could have done what you fantasize. The escaping chickens were very frustrating only partly because we have dogs. Merlyn has had chicken for lunch twice. And after you remove the chicken from the dog's mouth, you've got to run after the blasted chicken. On a warm Summer evening, I took a chair back to the chicken enclosure with a long drink and just sat and waited. As night fell, five of the hens assembled in a line at the base of the wire enclosure wall. The enclosure was roughly 20 by 40 feet in two 20 by 20 sections, with a wire wall dividing the two sections and a door in the divider. The entire enclosure was covered with netting to keep the hawks out. The hens assembled at the base of the dividing wall. In unison, they began flapping their wings. The sound was rather startling. With the force of their wings and the strength of their legs, the hens ran rapidly up the wall and forced the netting up to allow one of the hens to hop out on top of the netting on the neighboring enclosure. It was the most amazing example of coordinated activity among animals I have ever seen. After I secured the netting to the dividing wall, we had no more escaping chickens. Sadly, the chickens are no more. Despite the fact that our lot, and most of the lots in our area were an acre and a half when we bought the place 22 years ago, the area is not zoned for farm animals. An unidentified neighbor rated us out to the Zoning Board. But the chickens provided an good education in life for our kids as they grew, and for me as well. Al Mike, # 15
I almost think they could have done what you fantasize. The escaping chickens were very frustrating only partly because we have dogs. Merlyn has had chicken for lunch twice. And after you remove the chicken from the dog’s mouth, you’ve got to run after the blasted chicken. On a warm Summer evening, I took a chair back to the chicken enclosure with a long drink and just sat and waited. As night fell, five of the hens assembled in a line at the base of the wire enclosure wall. The enclosure was roughly 20 by 40 feet in two 20 by 20 sections, with a wire wall dividing the two sections and a door in the divider. The entire enclosure was covered with netting to keep the hawks out. The hens assembled at the base of the dividing wall. In unison, they began flapping their wings. The sound was rather startling. With the force of their wings and the strength of their legs, the hens ran rapidly up the wall and forced the netting up to allow one of the hens to hop out on top of the netting on the neighboring enclosure. It was the most amazing example of coordinated activity among animals I have ever seen. After I secured the netting to the dividing wall, we had no more escaping chickens.
Sadly, the chickens are no more. Despite the fact that our lot, and most of the lots in our area were an acre and a half when we bought the place 22 years ago, the area is not zoned for farm animals. An unidentified neighbor rated us out to the Zoning Board.
But the chickens provided an good education in life for our kids as they grew, and for me as well.
Al

]]> By: Marguerite http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/07/04/the-declaration-of-independence-and-chickens/comment-page-1/#comment-55826 Marguerite Mon, 06 Jul 2009 02:34:11 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=7248#comment-55826 David Foster - Maybe for Caesar, but minimal suffering and maximum security were not the proper ends of society as envisioned by America's founders. That is, however, where we are headed. As seen by the left, no one in any preferred identity group should ever have to suffer the consequence of poor decisions. And those who have made wise choices, or 'were lucky in life's lottery' are the ones commandeered by a tyrannical hand to finance the remaking of society 'from the bottom up.' David Foster – Maybe for Caesar, but minimal suffering and maximum security were not the proper ends of society as envisioned by America’s founders. That is, however, where we are headed. As seen by the left, no one in any preferred identity group should ever have to suffer the consequence of poor decisions. And those who have made wise choices, or ‘were lucky in life’s lottery’ are the ones commandeered by a tyrannical hand to finance the remaking of society ‘from the bottom up.’

]]> By: David Foster http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/07/04/the-declaration-of-independence-and-chickens/comment-page-1/#comment-55785 David Foster Sun, 05 Jul 2009 23:28:29 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=7248#comment-55785 "To minimize suffering and to maximize security were natural and proper ends of society and Caesar. But then they became the only ends, somehow, and the only basis of law — a perversion. Inevitably, then, in seeking only them, we found only their opposites: maximum suffering and minimum security." --Walter Miller, "A Canticle for Leibowitz" Pretty sure I've quoted this here before, but it often seems appropriate these days... “To minimize suffering and to maximize security were natural and proper ends of society and Caesar. But then they became the only ends, somehow, and the only basis of law — a perversion. Inevitably, then, in seeking only them, we found only their opposites: maximum suffering and minimum security.”

–Walter Miller, “A Canticle for Leibowitz”

Pretty sure I’ve quoted this here before, but it often seems appropriate these days…

]]> By: Marguerite http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/07/04/the-declaration-of-independence-and-chickens/comment-page-1/#comment-55734 Marguerite Sun, 05 Jul 2009 21:58:21 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=7248#comment-55734 Sadie - Bread and circuses keep the rabble fat, dumb, and happy. Nothing new there! I guess there is a downside to such economic success as a nation that even our poor have been educated to feel entitled to have cars, TVs, houses, video stuff at the expense of others. It hides the true poverty within. What happened to renting an apartment until you saved the down payment for a house? And the satisfaction that comes with that accomplishment? When did that become unfair? Probably around the time when it became unfair to have games where kids could win or lose - they just all get ribbons for participating. This year in our deep, deep, blue city we awarded the summer pageant crown to one of several high school contestants who now don't even give speeches or compete in any way. We just celebrated our national independence, yet not one of our founders could ever be elected today. Sorry for the gripey message - I almost tossed it, but figure BW's readers can take it. Sadie – Bread and circuses keep the rabble fat, dumb, and happy. Nothing new there! I guess there is a downside to such economic success as a nation that even our poor have been educated to feel entitled to have cars, TVs, houses, video stuff at the expense of others. It hides the true poverty within. What happened to renting an apartment until you saved the down payment for a house? And the satisfaction that comes with that accomplishment? When did that become unfair? Probably around the time when it became unfair to have games where kids could win or lose – they just all get ribbons for participating. This year in our deep, deep, blue city we awarded the summer pageant crown to one of several high school contestants who now don’t even give speeches or compete in any way. We just celebrated our national independence, yet not one of our founders could ever be elected today. Sorry for the gripey message – I almost tossed it, but figure BW’s readers can take it.

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