Comments on: Seeing inside someone’s soul — and finding a blogburst *UPDATED* http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/08/03/seeing-inside-someones-soul-and-finding-a-blogburst/ Conservatives deal with facts and reach conclusions; liberals have conclusions and sell them as facts. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 06:19:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Rhymes With Right http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/08/03/seeing-inside-someones-soul-and-finding-a-blogburst/comment-page-1/#comment-72049 Rhymes With Right Sun, 23 Aug 2009 23:21:28 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=7746#comment-72049 <strong>Current Watcher's Council Results...</strong> Here are the current results from the Watcher's Council. Winning Council Submissions First place with 2 points! – Soccer Dad - Worth every penny of “free.” Second place with 1 points – Wolf Howling - Informed Votes Third place with...... Current Watcher’s Council Results…

Here are the current results from the Watcher’s Council. Winning Council Submissions First place with 2 points! – Soccer Dad – Worth every penny of “free.” Second place with 1 points – Wolf Howling – Informed Votes Third place with……

]]> By: Watcher of Weasels » Friends of a Feather: Obama Supporters Attack Tea Party Protesters, MSM Idealogue Attacks Israel http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/08/03/seeing-inside-someones-soul-and-finding-a-blogburst/comment-page-1/#comment-61510 Watcher of Weasels » Friends of a Feather: Obama Supporters Attack Tea Party Protesters, MSM Idealogue Attacks Israel Fri, 07 Aug 2009 17:19:38 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=7746#comment-61510 [...] Fourth place with 1/3 points – (T*) – Bookworm Room - Seeing inside someone’s soul — and finding a blogburst [...] [...] Fourth place with 1/3 points – (T*) – Bookworm Room – Seeing inside someone’s soul — and finding a blogburst [...]

]]> By: Soccer Dad http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/08/03/seeing-inside-someones-soul-and-finding-a-blogburst/comment-page-1/#comment-61121 Soccer Dad Thu, 06 Aug 2009 06:06:44 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=7746#comment-61121 <strong>Submitted 08/06/09...</strong> Council nominations are up! Informed Votes - Wolf Howling argues that it hurts democracy to have lawmakers who are ignorant of the laws they pass. He's right. President Obama Awards Medal of Freedom To Prominent 'Anti-Zionists' - Joshuapundit gives ... Submitted 08/06/09…

Council nominations are up! Informed Votes – Wolf Howling argues that it hurts democracy to have lawmakers who are ignorant of the laws they pass. He’s right. President Obama Awards Medal of Freedom To Prominent ‘Anti-Zionists’ – Joshuapundit gives …

]]> By: Ymarsakar http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/08/03/seeing-inside-someones-soul-and-finding-a-blogburst/comment-page-1/#comment-61028 Ymarsakar Wed, 05 Aug 2009 20:56:20 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=7746#comment-61028 Tough work, Dave. Somebody has to do it. And better those that can and can excel than those who would be lacking. The warriors of the light fight eternally on the border between darkness and illumination, enlightenment and despair. They fight to create a world where they are no longer needed, all the while knowing that such a world can never truly exist. Tough work, Dave. Somebody has to do it. And better those that can and can excel than those who would be lacking.

The warriors of the light fight eternally on the border between darkness and illumination, enlightenment and despair.

They fight to create a world where they are no longer needed, all the while knowing that such a world can never truly exist.

]]> By: Watcher of Weasels » Don’t Snitch On Me Bro! http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/08/03/seeing-inside-someones-soul-and-finding-a-blogburst/comment-page-1/#comment-60994 Watcher of Weasels » Don’t Snitch On Me Bro! Wed, 05 Aug 2009 15:24:54 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=7746#comment-60994 [...] Bookworm Room - Seeing inside someone’s soul — and finding a blogburst [...] [...] Bookworm Room – Seeing inside someone’s soul — and finding a blogburst [...]

]]> By: SGT Dave http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/08/03/seeing-inside-someones-soul-and-finding-a-blogburst/comment-page-1/#comment-60905 SGT Dave Tue, 04 Aug 2009 16:43:58 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=7746#comment-60905 Y, I never had the disassociative problems, but some of my people did. It gets pretty hairy at times when you're working. You become what the source needs you to be - friend, brother, confessor, tormentor, or synchophant. The immersion is total if you are doing it right - and you need to BELIEVE it. Only a tiny bit of your mind is quietly holding the lifeline back. It may even be worse when you have to leave it behind; you're not taking off a costume - you're killing the person you became and sucking out all the information you gleaned during your time in that skin. And let there be no doubt, you are killing a piece of yourself every time you walk away - even if that piece is pitch black and has tread where angels fear. I've always been me, even when I was in the booth. It bothered a few of my co-workers because it was seamless. I've even been in riots shouting "arriba, abajo, gringos al carajo!" with the natives, blended so carefully they didn't pick me out or notice I was tagging the ringleaders so we could grab them later. The dichotomy is odd - one moves toward the center of gravity of the riot, seeking out the motivating force. Everyone does it, looking for the charismatic "star" around which the whole maelstrom circles. The hard part is following that stream of pressure and being a part and yet apart. Then allowing the tidal forces to drag you outward, away, then disengage and write up your report - knowing that the next step will be seeing that charismatic person inside a small room; disavowing your actions in placing them there; becoming their soul mate and confidant so that you can bring more people into the little booth and exploit their fears, needs, and loves; and then leaving, shedding a skin and writing the reports. That was usually the point I'd go and get blind drunk and pass out. Then I'd get up and go back again, because I am a professional operator - and I couldn't be out of the works for very long because they needed me. I've still got my soul, though sometimes I have to scrub at the dingy parts. I look at my kids and realize I must've done something right, since they are all the things I wish I'd been - smart, loving, considerate, faithful. I owe my wife bunches for raising them while I was away and keeping me a part of their lives. I hope they don't follow their old man's steps into this shadow world, but I'm raising them to know right from wrong and to stand up for the good. They'll make their choices, and I'll support them wherever they go. SSG Dave "Inside this place there is only the questioner and the prisoner. They must believe you to be the only other creature in the world who cares. And you must care, no matter the cost when you stop." Y,
I never had the disassociative problems, but some of my people did. It gets pretty hairy at times when you’re working. You become what the source needs you to be – friend, brother, confessor, tormentor, or synchophant. The immersion is total if you are doing it right – and you need to BELIEVE it. Only a tiny bit of your mind is quietly holding the lifeline back. It may even be worse when you have to leave it behind; you’re not taking off a costume – you’re killing the person you became and sucking out all the information you gleaned during your time in that skin. And let there be no doubt, you are killing a piece of yourself every time you walk away – even if that piece is pitch black and has tread where angels fear.
I’ve always been me, even when I was in the booth. It bothered a few of my co-workers because it was seamless. I’ve even been in riots shouting “arriba, abajo, gringos al carajo!” with the natives, blended so carefully they didn’t pick me out or notice I was tagging the ringleaders so we could grab them later. The dichotomy is odd – one moves toward the center of gravity of the riot, seeking out the motivating force. Everyone does it, looking for the charismatic “star” around which the whole maelstrom circles. The hard part is following that stream of pressure and being a part and yet apart. Then allowing the tidal forces to drag you outward, away, then disengage and write up your report – knowing that the next step will be seeing that charismatic person inside a small room; disavowing your actions in placing them there; becoming their soul mate and confidant so that you can bring more people into the little booth and exploit their fears, needs, and loves; and then leaving, shedding a skin and writing the reports.
That was usually the point I’d go and get blind drunk and pass out.
Then I’d get up and go back again, because I am a professional operator – and I couldn’t be out of the works for very long because they needed me.
I’ve still got my soul, though sometimes I have to scrub at the dingy parts. I look at my kids and realize I must’ve done something right, since they are all the things I wish I’d been – smart, loving, considerate, faithful. I owe my wife bunches for raising them while I was away and keeping me a part of their lives. I hope they don’t follow their old man’s steps into this shadow world, but I’m raising them to know right from wrong and to stand up for the good. They’ll make their choices, and I’ll support them wherever they go.

SSG Dave
“Inside this place there is only the questioner and the prisoner. They must believe you to be the only other creature in the world who cares. And you must care, no matter the cost when you stop.”

]]> By: Ymarsakar http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/08/03/seeing-inside-someones-soul-and-finding-a-blogburst/comment-page-1/#comment-60903 Ymarsakar Tue, 04 Aug 2009 16:08:17 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=7746#comment-60903 it gets to ya, doesn't it, Dave. That other self. I am curious. Did you ever try to separate out the working persona and the human persona. Disaggregate them, that is, in an attempt to put up barriers and a defense with the claim that it isn't you, it's another personality. Did this ever trouble your sense of your sanity, when the choice was between disaggregation and an acceptance of the other? it gets to ya, doesn’t it, Dave. That other self.

I am curious. Did you ever try to separate out the working persona and the human persona. Disaggregate them, that is, in an attempt to put up barriers and a defense with the claim that it isn’t you, it’s another personality. Did this ever trouble your sense of your sanity, when the choice was between disaggregation and an acceptance of the other?

]]> By: Ymarsakar http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/08/03/seeing-inside-someones-soul-and-finding-a-blogburst/comment-page-1/#comment-60902 Ymarsakar Tue, 04 Aug 2009 16:02:58 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=7746#comment-60902 The difference between a trained operator and a sociopath, suek, is as you can see here. The sociopath feels no guilt and isn't very troubled by his actions or his self. The trained operator does feel guilt and can be destroyed through their attempts to suppress it. Amongst other emotions. It's why when people said 'torture' was happening at Gitmo. I saw no signs of it. Cause I know what torture is. And Dave does as well. The difference between a trained operator and a sociopath, suek, is as you can see here. The sociopath feels no guilt and isn’t very troubled by his actions or his self. The trained operator does feel guilt and can be destroyed through their attempts to suppress it. Amongst other emotions.

It’s why when people said ‘torture’ was happening at Gitmo. I saw no signs of it. Cause I know what torture is. And Dave does as well.

]]> By: SGT Dave http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/08/03/seeing-inside-someones-soul-and-finding-a-blogburst/comment-page-1/#comment-60899 SGT Dave Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:52:11 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=7746#comment-60899 Sue, You hit it on the head. When I'm working you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference between a true sociopath and myself. Hell, I have a hard time living with it at times. I am a well-trained operator, and it nearly cost me my humanity reaching that point. Thank God for my wife, my kids, and my determination to keep living - at one point I almost didn't make it and couldn't look in the mirror. And it is a constant fight to remain "human" and not just an operator. SSG Dave "You see that edge there, between the line and the black? And there's the other one, between the line and the white... Those are the limits where you operate, neither fish nor fowl, in the grey area defined by the razor's edge of a line." -SFC B, my mentor Sue,
You hit it on the head. When I’m working you’d be hard pressed to tell the difference between a true sociopath and myself. Hell, I have a hard time living with it at times. I am a well-trained operator, and it nearly cost me my humanity reaching that point. Thank God for my wife, my kids, and my determination to keep living – at one point I almost didn’t make it and couldn’t look in the mirror.
And it is a constant fight to remain “human” and not just an operator.

SSG Dave
“You see that edge there, between the line and the black? And there’s the other one, between the line and the white… Those are the limits where you operate, neither fish nor fowl, in the grey area defined by the razor’s edge of a line.”
-SFC B, my mentor

]]> By: suek http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/08/03/seeing-inside-someones-soul-and-finding-a-blogburst/comment-page-1/#comment-60895 suek Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:44:18 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=7746#comment-60895 >>If he’s not a sociopath, he’s a well-trained operator>> How would you differentiate between them? the operator and turn it off and become emotionally involved, and the sociopath can't? >>If he’s not a sociopath, he’s a well-trained operator>>

How would you differentiate between them? the operator and turn it off and become emotionally involved, and the sociopath can’t?

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