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		<title>By: NewsReal Blog Round Up: Libertarianism, Obama&#8217;s Single-Payer speech, Identity Politics Humor, Jihadi Anti-Semitism &#171; NewsReal Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/08/04/identity-politics-devolves-into-a-joke/comment-page-1/#comment-61048</link>
		<dc:creator>NewsReal Blog Round Up: Libertarianism, Obama&#8217;s Single-Payer speech, Identity Politics Humor, Jihadi Anti-Semitism &#171; NewsReal Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 21:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of less-than-stellar thinking, Bookworm highlighted some in the form of a joke that led into her discussion of Dennis Prager&#8217;s recent column: Two men [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of less-than-stellar thinking, Bookworm highlighted some in the form of a joke that led into her discussion of Dennis Prager&#8217;s recent column: Two men [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/08/04/identity-politics-devolves-into-a-joke/comment-page-1/#comment-61024</link>
		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 20:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What would happen is what happened after the Fall of Saigon when all those &#039;good intentioned&#039; fake liberals approved the execution, torture, and enforced starvation of millions of Cambodians and Vietnamese. Pride. Their pride in their actions. That they voted in the Black Man to erase the White Privilege of property rights, proper english, and &#039;merit&#039;.

When you demonstrate the consequences of their actions, the truth, they won&#039;t believe you.  They&#039;ll point to the mass graves and say, &#039;how do you scoff at the Utopia we created&#039;.

The truth isn&#039;t going to force them out. The Constitution isn&#039;t going to force them out. Reasoned appeals to the King of England was going to do a damn thing. Political and diplomatic compromises weren&#039;t going to do a damn thing to the Barbary Pirates.

Cold, hard, steel will, however.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would happen is what happened after the Fall of Saigon when all those &#8216;good intentioned&#8217; fake liberals approved the execution, torture, and enforced starvation of millions of Cambodians and Vietnamese. Pride. Their pride in their actions. That they voted in the Black Man to erase the White Privilege of property rights, proper english, and &#8216;merit&#8217;.</p>
<p>When you demonstrate the consequences of their actions, the truth, they won&#8217;t believe you.  They&#8217;ll point to the mass graves and say, &#8216;how do you scoff at the Utopia we created&#8217;.</p>
<p>The truth isn&#8217;t going to force them out. The Constitution isn&#8217;t going to force them out. Reasoned appeals to the King of England was going to do a damn thing. Political and diplomatic compromises weren&#8217;t going to do a damn thing to the Barbary Pirates.</p>
<p>Cold, hard, steel will, however.</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/08/04/identity-politics-devolves-into-a-joke/comment-page-1/#comment-61023</link>
		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 20:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;B&gt;Not wanting to get back into that, but nobody has answered even the most basic questions of what will happen if it _could_ be shown that O was ineligible for the presidency…&lt;/b&gt;

This is the Age of Obama. The only thing that matters is power, not truth.

Well, fine. There are ways to get power. Some of them even involve utilizing the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Not wanting to get back into that, but nobody has answered even the most basic questions of what will happen if it _could_ be shown that O was ineligible for the presidency…</b></p>
<p>This is the Age of Obama. The only thing that matters is power, not truth.</p>
<p>Well, fine. There are ways to get power. Some of them even involve utilizing the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: suek</title>
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		<dc:creator>suek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 16:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the line that Joe was selected as VP in order to serve as a deterrent against the possibility of O getting assassinated.

Or maybe to keep the birthers from getting too energetic?

Not wanting to get back into that, but nobody has answered even the most basic questions of what will happen if it _could_ be shown that O was ineligible for the presidency...

Would Biden become president?  Or would the entire ticket be eliminated on the basis that the party had presented an ineligible candidate? in which case, would McCain be president?  Or would the entire election be thrown out and rerun? I suspect there nothing nowhere that addresses the practical problems - so the discussion is completely up for grabs!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the line that Joe was selected as VP in order to serve as a deterrent against the possibility of O getting assassinated.</p>
<p>Or maybe to keep the birthers from getting too energetic?</p>
<p>Not wanting to get back into that, but nobody has answered even the most basic questions of what will happen if it _could_ be shown that O was ineligible for the presidency&#8230;</p>
<p>Would Biden become president?  Or would the entire ticket be eliminated on the basis that the party had presented an ineligible candidate? in which case, would McCain be president?  Or would the entire election be thrown out and rerun? I suspect there nothing nowhere that addresses the practical problems &#8211; so the discussion is completely up for grabs!</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/08/04/identity-politics-devolves-into-a-joke/comment-page-1/#comment-60992</link>
		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 14:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe&#039;s more like the threat, in case some people think removing Obama is a good idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe&#8217;s more like the threat, in case some people think removing Obama is a good idea.</p>
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		<title>By: SGT Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>SGT Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 14:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All,
Actually, I was considering &quot;Joe was a prop&quot; as a correct definition - something stiff, wooden, and unthinking that supports an item that is preparing to fall flat.

SSG Dave
&quot;I&#039;d say he&#039;s an idiot, but that would imply that he&#039;s functional at some level.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All,<br />
Actually, I was considering &#8220;Joe was a prop&#8221; as a correct definition &#8211; something stiff, wooden, and unthinking that supports an item that is preparing to fall flat.</p>
<p>SSG Dave<br />
&#8220;I&#8217;d say he&#8217;s an idiot, but that would imply that he&#8217;s functional at some level.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: George Bruce</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/08/04/identity-politics-devolves-into-a-joke/comment-page-1/#comment-60957</link>
		<dc:creator>George Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 23:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BW wrote

&quot;Joe was a prop.  (As an aside, that’s probably Joe’s best role.)&quot;

Ding!   That made a bell go off for me.   Joe Biden, the Ed McMahan of the Obama administration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BW wrote</p>
<p>&#8220;Joe was a prop.  (As an aside, that’s probably Joe’s best role.)&#8221;</p>
<p>Ding!   That made a bell go off for me.   Joe Biden, the Ed McMahan of the Obama administration.</p>
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		<title>By: expat</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/08/04/identity-politics-devolves-into-a-joke/comment-page-1/#comment-60939</link>
		<dc:creator>expat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 21:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James Taranto at WSJ offers a possible reason for including Biden in the beer summit: Obama wanted Crowley to remind him of his right to remain silent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James Taranto at WSJ offers a possible reason for including Biden in the beer summit: Obama wanted Crowley to remind him of his right to remain silent.</p>
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		<title>By: Gringo</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/08/04/identity-politics-devolves-into-a-joke/comment-page-1/#comment-60917</link>
		<dc:creator>Gringo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 19:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard the first joke  decades ago in a slightly different  form, from  my high school history teacher, who was Jewish. While I didn&#039;t agree with many of his teaching approaches, he was a kindly person who knew his subject , with a sense of humor who was not afraid to laugh at himself- as shown by the joke.

I worked as a substitute teacher for several years before I got my teaching certificate. I no longer teach. I discovered as a substitute teacher that it was not unknown  for students to play the race card on me when I tried to get them to do their work. But not on a daily basis. I ignored the race card- you can&#039;t win by denying &quot;racism&quot;- and repeated my directions to get to work. Most misbehaving students did not play the race card.

One time in a middle school, a Hispanic female student asked me at the beginning of class  if I hated Mexicans. I replied in Spanish : &quot;Por supuesto. ¿Me crees tonto?&quot;  (Of course. Do you think I&#039;m stupid?) Fortunately, she and the class took it in the jocular sense I intended. (On occasion US-born Spanish speaking Hispanic students who were fluent in English referred to my Spanish as &quot;Chino&quot; - Chinese, which referred to my velocity in Spanish.)

 As a regular teacher, where I saw the same students every day, no student tried to play the race card on me. They saw me in action every day, and knew it wouldn&#039;t fly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard the first joke  decades ago in a slightly different  form, from  my high school history teacher, who was Jewish. While I didn&#8217;t agree with many of his teaching approaches, he was a kindly person who knew his subject , with a sense of humor who was not afraid to laugh at himself- as shown by the joke.</p>
<p>I worked as a substitute teacher for several years before I got my teaching certificate. I no longer teach. I discovered as a substitute teacher that it was not unknown  for students to play the race card on me when I tried to get them to do their work. But not on a daily basis. I ignored the race card- you can&#8217;t win by denying &#8220;racism&#8221;- and repeated my directions to get to work. Most misbehaving students did not play the race card.</p>
<p>One time in a middle school, a Hispanic female student asked me at the beginning of class  if I hated Mexicans. I replied in Spanish : &#8220;Por supuesto. ¿Me crees tonto?&#8221;  (Of course. Do you think I&#8217;m stupid?) Fortunately, she and the class took it in the jocular sense I intended. (On occasion US-born Spanish speaking Hispanic students who were fluent in English referred to my Spanish as &#8220;Chino&#8221; &#8211; Chinese, which referred to my velocity in Spanish.)</p>
<p> As a regular teacher, where I saw the same students every day, no student tried to play the race card on me. They saw me in action every day, and knew it wouldn&#8217;t fly.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Martel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Martel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 18:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s time to start hammering the Democrats for their institutional racism. We should start loudly asking:

---Why do you think it isn&#039;t necessary for blacks to get married?

---Why are you not concerned or, to use your favorite word, &quot;outraged,&quot; at the 70% rate of bastardy among blacks?

---Why do you encourage and abet a 35% abortion rate among blacks?

---Why, after trillions of tax dollars spent, can&#039;t your great teachers&#039; unions elevate blacks&#039; educational achievements in public schools?

---Why are you not outraged at the filth and misogyny of rap music? 

---If you&#039;re not racist, how come you don&#039;t go after the anti-homosexual sentiment in the black community as hard as you do when you&#039;re denigrating Catholics, Mormons, Evangelicals and conservative whites who oppose same-sex marriage?

---Why do you sneer at Clarence Thomas and accuse him of leveraging affirmative action to get onto the Supreme Court but never breathe a word about the greatest affirmative action baby of all time, Barry Sotero Obama?

---How come you subscribe to the racist, Jim Crow notion that a man is black if he has one drop of black blood but can&#039;t be white if he has one drop of white blood? Why do you insist on maintaining your white-skin privilege of being the only ones who can name and bestow the race of another man?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s time to start hammering the Democrats for their institutional racism. We should start loudly asking:</p>
<p>&#8212;Why do you think it isn&#8217;t necessary for blacks to get married?</p>
<p>&#8212;Why are you not concerned or, to use your favorite word, &#8220;outraged,&#8221; at the 70% rate of bastardy among blacks?</p>
<p>&#8212;Why do you encourage and abet a 35% abortion rate among blacks?</p>
<p>&#8212;Why, after trillions of tax dollars spent, can&#8217;t your great teachers&#8217; unions elevate blacks&#8217; educational achievements in public schools?</p>
<p>&#8212;Why are you not outraged at the filth and misogyny of rap music? </p>
<p>&#8212;If you&#8217;re not racist, how come you don&#8217;t go after the anti-homosexual sentiment in the black community as hard as you do when you&#8217;re denigrating Catholics, Mormons, Evangelicals and conservative whites who oppose same-sex marriage?</p>
<p>&#8212;Why do you sneer at Clarence Thomas and accuse him of leveraging affirmative action to get onto the Supreme Court but never breathe a word about the greatest affirmative action baby of all time, Barry Sotero Obama?</p>
<p>&#8212;How come you subscribe to the racist, Jim Crow notion that a man is black if he has one drop of black blood but can&#8217;t be white if he has one drop of white blood? Why do you insist on maintaining your white-skin privilege of being the only ones who can name and bestow the race of another man?</p>
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