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	<title>Comments on: The price to free Gilad Shalit</title>
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	<description>Conservatives deal with facts and reach conclusions; liberals have conclusions and sell them as facts.</description>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/08/29/the-price-to-free-gilad-shalit/comment-page-1/#comment-75548</link>
		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 16:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing about leaders is that once they take power, they become detached from the brutality, ruthlessness, and inherent cruelty necessary to &#039;work&#039;.

They not only get slow information, they can take bad information as well. They start to take counsel of their fears. They do not pile all their winnings in one roll of the dice, to win or lose it all. They worry about the rest of the people, the ones that they would have to risk.

Unfortunately, the people with the drive necessary to just plow through enemies foreign or domestic alike, tend to be unbalanced. The distortion of hate, will, determination, love, and patriotism starts to warp people&#039;s good intentions, turning their ultimately idealistic goals into something far darker.

Of course, those like Hitler and Pol Pot started off as servants of entropy in the first place. So it didn&#039;t take them far to go personally. They could not build, because it was not in them in the first place.

In times of crisis, a tyrant is needed to clean up the mess of the diplomats and those who tried to sustain the status quo. But only if they fail. They may yet not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing about leaders is that once they take power, they become detached from the brutality, ruthlessness, and inherent cruelty necessary to &#8216;work&#8217;.</p>
<p>They not only get slow information, they can take bad information as well. They start to take counsel of their fears. They do not pile all their winnings in one roll of the dice, to win or lose it all. They worry about the rest of the people, the ones that they would have to risk.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the people with the drive necessary to just plow through enemies foreign or domestic alike, tend to be unbalanced. The distortion of hate, will, determination, love, and patriotism starts to warp people&#8217;s good intentions, turning their ultimately idealistic goals into something far darker.</p>
<p>Of course, those like Hitler and Pol Pot started off as servants of entropy in the first place. So it didn&#8217;t take them far to go personally. They could not build, because it was not in them in the first place.</p>
<p>In times of crisis, a tyrant is needed to clean up the mess of the diplomats and those who tried to sustain the status quo. But only if they fail. They may yet not.</p>
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		<title>By: SADIE</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/08/29/the-price-to-free-gilad-shalit/comment-page-1/#comment-75546</link>
		<dc:creator>SADIE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 16:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Open, scroll down to September 2 cartoon and commentary.

http://drybonesblog.blogspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Open, scroll down to September 2 cartoon and commentary.</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/08/29/the-price-to-free-gilad-shalit/comment-page-1/#comment-74259</link>
		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 21:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The way a more common sense and less luxurious people would have handled the Palestinian incident in question would be thus:

After the lynching, military forces would be launched to suppress and capture all the denizens of the police station in question. Extraordinary interrogation would be used, above and beyond Enhanced Interrogation, in order to verify, derive, or approximate who is guilty and who had the primary participation. Along with video, professional or homemade, to accurately identify some known participants, you will have a dossier of those found to be responsible.

Then you video tape their tribunal and hanging, and then you ship the DVDs to the families of the Palestinians in question, including Arafat. This is, of course, after contacting your allies in the media and giving them the scoop and exclusive, so that they can overpower and exterminate their competition, the enemy media.

Amongst these DVDs will be specifically and professionally recorded confessions from the individuals just executed.

This is the message wise leaders would send, because that is what would protect their people. But in modern times, leaders and nations don&#039;t do this. They just allow it to be done to the weak and the innocent, while telling themselves that they are superior for not utilizing effective methodology.

In the past, nations and leaders have certainly failed to protect their own. This has been due often to a lack of power as it was due to a lack of wisdom (insanity). But no longer lack power. So either we are insane or we are trying for suicide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way a more common sense and less luxurious people would have handled the Palestinian incident in question would be thus:</p>
<p>After the lynching, military forces would be launched to suppress and capture all the denizens of the police station in question. Extraordinary interrogation would be used, above and beyond Enhanced Interrogation, in order to verify, derive, or approximate who is guilty and who had the primary participation. Along with video, professional or homemade, to accurately identify some known participants, you will have a dossier of those found to be responsible.</p>
<p>Then you video tape their tribunal and hanging, and then you ship the DVDs to the families of the Palestinians in question, including Arafat. This is, of course, after contacting your allies in the media and giving them the scoop and exclusive, so that they can overpower and exterminate their competition, the enemy media.</p>
<p>Amongst these DVDs will be specifically and professionally recorded confessions from the individuals just executed.</p>
<p>This is the message wise leaders would send, because that is what would protect their people. But in modern times, leaders and nations don&#8217;t do this. They just allow it to be done to the weak and the innocent, while telling themselves that they are superior for not utilizing effective methodology.</p>
<p>In the past, nations and leaders have certainly failed to protect their own. This has been due often to a lack of power as it was due to a lack of wisdom (insanity). But no longer lack power. So either we are insane or we are trying for suicide.</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/08/29/the-price-to-free-gilad-shalit/comment-page-1/#comment-74258</link>
		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 19:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only thing enemies of humanity understand is force. Not morality, not laws, not ethics, not bribes. Power is the only thing they respect and acknowledge, and if you don&#039;t have power, you are not a threat to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing enemies of humanity understand is force. Not morality, not laws, not ethics, not bribes. Power is the only thing they respect and acknowledge, and if you don&#8217;t have power, you are not a threat to them.</p>
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		<title>By: SADIE</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/08/29/the-price-to-free-gilad-shalit/comment-page-1/#comment-74240</link>
		<dc:creator>SADIE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 17:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ymarsakar

So, in my economic adviser role, I think it would be prudent to trade 2 live Israelis for 7000 dead Palestinians, if the market rate is currently 500 Palestinians per 1 live Israeli.

This is a good deal for Palestine people.

Not good enough, if I am doing the math...I have the visuals of the link below seared into my memory of an Israeli soldier dangling from the police station, who was dropped to the waiting crowd below and stomped to death.


http://www.israelfaxx.com/webarchive/2000/10/0fax1013.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ymarsakar</p>
<p>So, in my economic adviser role, I think it would be prudent to trade 2 live Israelis for 7000 dead Palestinians, if the market rate is currently 500 Palestinians per 1 live Israeli.</p>
<p>This is a good deal for Palestine people.</p>
<p>Not good enough, if I am doing the math&#8230;I have the visuals of the link below seared into my memory of an Israeli soldier dangling from the police station, who was dropped to the waiting crowd below and stomped to death.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.israelfaxx.com/webarchive/2000/10/0fax1013.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.israelfaxx.com/webarchive/2000/10/0fax1013.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: SADIE</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/08/29/the-price-to-free-gilad-shalit/comment-page-1/#comment-74232</link>
		<dc:creator>SADIE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 17:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another story another Jew ... never covered in the press beyond Europe.

http://www.ejpress.org/article/news/france/5914

Y...that&#039;s the $64,000 Dollar Question. Gilad is to be turned over to Egypt prior to the &#039;swap meet&#039; -  The odds suck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another story another Jew &#8230; never covered in the press beyond Europe.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ejpress.org/article/news/france/5914" rel="nofollow">http://www.ejpress.org/article/news/france/5914</a></p>
<p>Y&#8230;that&#8217;s the $64,000 Dollar Question. Gilad is to be turned over to Egypt prior to the &#8216;swap meet&#8217; &#8211;  The odds suck.</p>
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		<title>By: SADIE</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/08/29/the-price-to-free-gilad-shalit/comment-page-1/#comment-74231</link>
		<dc:creator>SADIE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 17:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Earl...human rights organizations have been entirely too busy safeguarding the rights of jihadists to concern themselves with such details.  Initially, the asking price for Gilad was 1200-1500 Palestinian prisoners. The &#039;new&#039; number of 450, is WHAT...a reference to flexibility or part of a new economic stimulus project. 

You would have to read into the caverns of current history to get the full nauseating picture. 

Before the internet and cable news, how many know or remember the story of Ron Arad.


http://judaism.about.com/library/1_terrorism/bl_ronarad.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Earl&#8230;human rights organizations have been entirely too busy safeguarding the rights of jihadists to concern themselves with such details.  Initially, the asking price for Gilad was 1200-1500 Palestinian prisoners. The &#8216;new&#8217; number of 450, is WHAT&#8230;a reference to flexibility or part of a new economic stimulus project. </p>
<p>You would have to read into the caverns of current history to get the full nauseating picture. </p>
<p>Before the internet and cable news, how many know or remember the story of Ron Arad.</p>
<p><a href="http://judaism.about.com/library/1_terrorism/bl_ronarad.htm" rel="nofollow">http://judaism.about.com/library/1_terrorism/bl_ronarad.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/08/29/the-price-to-free-gilad-shalit/comment-page-1/#comment-74230</link>
		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 17:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, in my economic adviser role, I think it would be prudent to trade 2 live Israelis for 7000 dead Palestinians, if the market rate is currently 500 Palestinians per 1 live Israeli.

This is a good deal for Palestine people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, in my economic adviser role, I think it would be prudent to trade 2 live Israelis for 7000 dead Palestinians, if the market rate is currently 500 Palestinians per 1 live Israeli.</p>
<p>This is a good deal for Palestine people.</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/08/29/the-price-to-free-gilad-shalit/comment-page-1/#comment-74229</link>
		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 16:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The going rate went up. Before it was 500 Palestinians for two dead Israelis. Now it is 500 Palestinians for one live Israeli?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The going rate went up. Before it was 500 Palestinians for two dead Israelis. Now it is 500 Palestinians for one live Israeli?</p>
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		<title>By: Earl</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/08/29/the-price-to-free-gilad-shalit/comment-page-1/#comment-74219</link>
		<dc:creator>Earl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 12:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suek...Sadie - so, the answer is &quot;No - we haven&#039;t a clue as to whether Gilad Shalit is alive or dead.&quot;  And the vaunted Red Cross, ACLU, U.N., etc. etc. apparently couldn&#039;t care less.  Has anyone heard a single word from any of the world&#039;s &quot;human rights&quot; organizations about this outrageous situation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suek&#8230;Sadie &#8211; so, the answer is &#8220;No &#8211; we haven&#8217;t a clue as to whether Gilad Shalit is alive or dead.&#8221;  And the vaunted Red Cross, ACLU, U.N., etc. etc. apparently couldn&#8217;t care less.  Has anyone heard a single word from any of the world&#8217;s &#8220;human rights&#8221; organizations about this outrageous situation?</p>
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