Hieronymous Bosch and alcoholic Britain have a lot in common

After you’ve read this appalling article about Britain’s well-recognized drinking problem, two thoughts:  First, it’s like a Bosch painting come to life.  And second, if you were in England and appalled by what you saw, wouldn’t Islam, a religion that bans alcohol, start to look attractive?

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  • http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com/ Ymarsakar

    Hey. For a people that allows their government to make most of their decisions for them, including NHS, armament, and welfare checks, what did you expect? More self-discipline and self-dignity?

    The culture is the character of the nation. The laws and the actions of individuals, only the actions derived from that character.

    A self-disciplined and spartan culture like Sparta will create self-disciplined laws and self-disciplined actions relating to individual lust or desires.

    Britain no longer has any dignity or discipline left. They are drinking themselves to death because they have nothing better to do, no better decision to make. Probably their own decision that they can make at this time.

  • http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com/ Ymarsakar

    Their only decision.

  • http://bookwormroom.com Bookworm

    You’re exactly right, Y. This is the reductio ad absurdem of learned helplessness.

  • http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com/ Ymarsakar


    listen to the last 10-20 minutes of the first audio cast, Book. It describes the Left, and their hippy youth retarded tools, very well.

  • Danny Lemieux

    These are the actions of people who have lost hope and purpose in life.

    You are absolutely right, YM and Book: these people have been stripped of their dignity by the State, just like the welfare culture has done to the American inner city…except that here, religion still offers glimmers of hope and purpose.

    In Britain, Christianity has died only to be replaced by the secular socialist state and that, too, has left a terrible spiritual vacuum that the straight jacket of Islamic Sharia will eventually fill.

    As Book puts it, it is learned helplessness. Maybe this will be secular America in just a few years, only the drugs of choice will be different.

  • Danny Lemieux

    G.K. Chesterton described this self-destructive and degrading behavior as the self-stabbing deadened nerve endings by spiritually empty individuals in desperate attempts to convince themselves that they were still alive.

  • Ariel

    So, there was more to learn from the Russians than just literature, and the British have seemingly learned it well.

  • http://tastyinfidelicacies.blogspot.com Jewel

    This is where we are headed, too, I fear. I have had to go and rescue my teenaged daughter a few times already for having gotten drunk, and neither her father or I drink!

  • Zhombre

    Y: precisely. It has taken 50 years for the Brits to reach this state of degradation and may take another generation for them to pull themselves out of it. If you read the dispatches of Michael Yon from Afghanistan, you will realize there are British soldiers who still carry on and uphold the ideals of service, duty, honor, courage. Perhaps what is required is a de facto coup: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/6233101/Soldiers-disgust-at-expenses-greed-of-MPs.html

  • http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com/ Ymarsakar

    David Weber posited that a Constitutional Monarchy or just plain Monarchy could only exist to protect the security and dignity of the people if that Monarchy had a Royal Family dedicated to public service, primarily military service.

    The Royal Family, then, serves as the guiding light of the nation and its ties to ancient ancestors and traditions.

    Of course, Prince Harry wants to go off to Afghanistan, probably because he knows what a cesspit Britain is and how glaringly atrocious the life of a scion of the Royal Family is under the public eye, but Prince Harry’s family is not part of a Constitutional Monarchy. In Britain, the Monarchy is just another bread and circus for the masses. A lot of publicity and attention, but no political power at all.

  • http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com/ Ymarsakar

    “We are expected to be meticulous and accountable in our record-keeping but it seems that the same standards do not apply in our elected representatives.

    Of course. One set of rules apply to the aristocrats, those of blue and good blood, while another set of rules apply to the peons, the commoners. This is how it should be, in order to keep the masses in check and the elites in power, both sappy happy.

    How else are you going to keep control of a large population of educated and technically skilled individuals with only a handful of elite commissars and executives? Mind control is not yet feasible, ya know.

  • Zhombre

    Nice point, Y. It’s the patricians who interpret the auguries and the mass of plebs who obey. Not much changes, does it?

  • gkong3

    Ymarskar: Not a whole lot of political power at all, no… but a not-insignificant amount of moral influence, at least from the current Monarch.

    I grant you, though, that the next heir-apparent is a little hopeless.