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	<title>Comments on: With one of the Manson killers, justice is finally served</title>
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	<description>Conservatives deal with facts and reach conclusions; liberals have conclusions and sell them as facts.</description>
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		<title>By: SADIE</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/09/25/with-one-of-the-manson-killers-justice-is-finally-served/comment-page-1/#comment-78124</link>
		<dc:creator>SADIE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 23:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charles

Excellent suggestions, but I would reverse the order.

Harvest the organs slowly.
Death.
Burial in a Prius which has been set in front of a screen to watch ......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles</p>
<p>Excellent suggestions, but I would reverse the order.</p>
<p>Harvest the organs slowly.<br />
Death.<br />
Burial in a Prius which has been set in front of a screen to watch &#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 22:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say put them in a deathmatch with somebody.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say put them in a deathmatch with somebody.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Martel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Martel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 22:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadie, I&#039;d opt for a slow death, brought on by having the perp be forced to watch endless loops of Michael Moore &quot;documentaries&quot; and hilarious David Letterman riffs on the now long departed George W. Bush. 

This would all be done from the confinement of the passenger cabin of a converted Prius, which, being &quot;progressive,&quot; would have no sharp edges, toxic materials or reactionary devices with which the condemned might off himself. 

I&#039;d say catatonia within three days and brain death within seven. Then, let the organ harvesting begin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadie, I&#8217;d opt for a slow death, brought on by having the perp be forced to watch endless loops of Michael Moore &#8220;documentaries&#8221; and hilarious David Letterman riffs on the now long departed George W. Bush. </p>
<p>This would all be done from the confinement of the passenger cabin of a converted Prius, which, being &#8220;progressive,&#8221; would have no sharp edges, toxic materials or reactionary devices with which the condemned might off himself. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d say catatonia within three days and brain death within seven. Then, let the organ harvesting begin.</p>
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		<title>By: Gringo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gringo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 21:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadie: from what I  have read about prison medical care, I doubt that she got top-dollar medical assistance, which is at least some compensation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadie: from what I  have read about prison medical care, I doubt that she got top-dollar medical assistance, which is at least some compensation.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Daily Links &#8211; 09/25/09 NoisyRoom.net: Where liberty dwells, there is my country&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Daily Links &#8211; 09/25/09 NoisyRoom.net: Where liberty dwells, there is my country&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 17:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] With one of the Manson killers, justice is finally served [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 17:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;B&gt;I am in favor of the mourners determining how justice should be applied and if (they) favor a life sentence, they should pay for room and board in the prison.&lt;/b&gt;

Ah, choice. Not something the totalitarians like to promote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>I am in favor of the mourners determining how justice should be applied and if (they) favor a life sentence, they should pay for room and board in the prison.</b></p>
<p>Ah, choice. Not something the totalitarians like to promote.</p>
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		<title>By: SADIE</title>
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		<dc:creator>SADIE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no real justice here, just death delayed by 40 years. 
The problem with the initial sentence is that it was &lt;I&gt;life.&lt;/I&gt; 
Atkins was breathing, being fed, clothed and I can assume receiving medical attention at the expense of taxpayers, which includes the grieving family and friends of all the victims. 

The scales of justice stink like the rotting scales of fish. 
I am in favor of the mourners determining how justice should be applied and if (they) favor a life sentence, they should pay for room and board in the prison.
If they opt for execution, they get to choose the method.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no real justice here, just death delayed by 40 years.<br />
The problem with the initial sentence is that it was <i>life.</i><br />
Atkins was breathing, being fed, clothed and I can assume receiving medical attention at the expense of taxpayers, which includes the grieving family and friends of all the victims. </p>
<p>The scales of justice stink like the rotting scales of fish.<br />
I am in favor of the mourners determining how justice should be applied and if (they) favor a life sentence, they should pay for room and board in the prison.<br />
If they opt for execution, they get to choose the method.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Lemieux</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny Lemieux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let her memory be relegated to history&#039;s ash heap!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let her memory be relegated to history&#8217;s ash heap!</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 15:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like people like Manson.

Without them, I would lack the justification for training under TFT. If the world was a peaceful place with conscientious robbers and burglars, we wouldn&#039;t need to know how to serially kill everybody in a room that we are in.

But those like Manson changes the crux of the view. Now it transforms from an abstract enemy that one has never faced, to being trained to target and destroy those like Manson.

Before, the argument of proportionality would always exist. Is it proportional to permanent destroy a person&#039;s knee or eyes when he didn&#039;t intend to kill and when he was not fighting without weapons? How then could you tell whether a person has a weapon in the dark, except when he pulls it out and uses it on you?

There&#039;s all kinds of &#039;what if&#039; scenarios that result when you start lawyering this stuff up and start placing limits on yourself.

But with those like Manson, I can take the limits off. The lack of mercy then becomes a virtue. A tribute and a gift to humanity.

If Manson had 10 people in his crew, I would only need a posse of 5, including myself, to smoke the rat-nest out. Less so, even, if I had some real experienced fighters and tactical surprise as a force magnifier. The criminal justice system exists to protect those like Manson from the rest of us. Because without such laws, I&#039;d go get them, for self-preservation if nothing else. And I&#039;d bring a large majority of the population in the area with me.

I&#039;ve heard some people say that they don&#039;t feel comfortable with being held responsible for the execution of anybody. I&#039;ll do them a favor, then. i&#039;ll do the execution for them. As a gift to humanity, of my own free will, not the dictates or orders of the state or of the law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like people like Manson.</p>
<p>Without them, I would lack the justification for training under TFT. If the world was a peaceful place with conscientious robbers and burglars, we wouldn&#8217;t need to know how to serially kill everybody in a room that we are in.</p>
<p>But those like Manson changes the crux of the view. Now it transforms from an abstract enemy that one has never faced, to being trained to target and destroy those like Manson.</p>
<p>Before, the argument of proportionality would always exist. Is it proportional to permanent destroy a person&#8217;s knee or eyes when he didn&#8217;t intend to kill and when he was not fighting without weapons? How then could you tell whether a person has a weapon in the dark, except when he pulls it out and uses it on you?</p>
<p>There&#8217;s all kinds of &#8216;what if&#8217; scenarios that result when you start lawyering this stuff up and start placing limits on yourself.</p>
<p>But with those like Manson, I can take the limits off. The lack of mercy then becomes a virtue. A tribute and a gift to humanity.</p>
<p>If Manson had 10 people in his crew, I would only need a posse of 5, including myself, to smoke the rat-nest out. Less so, even, if I had some real experienced fighters and tactical surprise as a force magnifier. The criminal justice system exists to protect those like Manson from the rest of us. Because without such laws, I&#8217;d go get them, for self-preservation if nothing else. And I&#8217;d bring a large majority of the population in the area with me.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard some people say that they don&#8217;t feel comfortable with being held responsible for the execution of anybody. I&#8217;ll do them a favor, then. i&#8217;ll do the execution for them. As a gift to humanity, of my own free will, not the dictates or orders of the state or of the law.</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 15:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is one of the continuous chains for why I say that the police are there to clean up the body bags.

Whether the body bag is you or the person you killed, however, rests upon some factors called training and capability.

If you are not capable of killing anyone in arm&#039;s reach, then the equation must naturally end up with you being in the body bag, for there becomes no contest, no equality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one of the continuous chains for why I say that the police are there to clean up the body bags.</p>
<p>Whether the body bag is you or the person you killed, however, rests upon some factors called training and capability.</p>
<p>If you are not capable of killing anyone in arm&#8217;s reach, then the equation must naturally end up with you being in the body bag, for there becomes no contest, no equality.</p>
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