Comments on: Election day open thread http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/11/04/election-day-open-thread/ Conservatives deal with facts and reach conclusions; liberals have conclusions and sell them as facts. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 06:19:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Ymarsakar http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/11/04/election-day-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-81577 Ymarsakar Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:08:20 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=9433#comment-81577 It's gone, you see. Like much of the treasury's funds, controlled by Obama's cronies. It’s gone, you see. Like much of the treasury’s funds, controlled by Obama’s cronies.

]]> By: Ymarsakar http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/11/04/election-day-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-81576 Ymarsakar Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:07:58 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=9433#comment-81576 Gringo, the comment gui for wordpress is using the visual image style. That means it won't be reading html at all, except some limited varieties.     And the option to change back to pure html, with line parsers, isn't here. Gringo, the comment gui for wordpress is using the visual image style. That means it won’t be reading html at all, except some limited varieties.
 
 
And the option to change back to pure html, with line parsers, isn’t here.

]]> By: Gringo http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/11/04/election-day-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-81507 Gringo Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:33:19 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=9433#comment-81507 <!--[if gte mso 9]> Normal 0 false false false MicrosoftInternetExplorer4 <![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]> <![endif]--> <!--[if gte mso 10]> <! /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-language:#0400; mso-fareast-language:#0400; mso-bidi-language:#0400;} --> <!--[endif]--> Ymarsakar:<blockquote><I>They either say that such things are an acceptable cost of ‘big party’ politics, or they say that it will alienate ‘moderates’ (like Ozzie) </I> </blockquote>   Haven't  heard from Ozzie in a while. Perhaps Ozzie realized no one was being convinced. After all, when 28 of the last 37 years we have had Presidents whom bible-thumpers supported, and we have seen no indication of any movement towards   the creation of a theocracy during that time, Ozzie's frenzied fears didn't hold much water.   Tags  still don't appear to work. And I am using Firefox.  
Ymarsakar:<blockquote><I>They either say that such things are an acceptable cost of ‘big party’ politics, or they say that it will alienate ‘moderates’ (like Ozzie) </I> </blockquote>
 
Haven’t  heard from Ozzie in a while. Perhaps Ozzie realized no one was being convinced. After all, when 28 of the last 37 years we have had Presidents whom bible-thumpers supported, and we have seen no indication of any movement towards   the creation of a theocracy during that time, Ozzie’s frenzied fears didn’t hold much water.
 
Tags  still don’t appear to work. And I am using Firefox.
 

]]> By: SADIE http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/11/04/election-day-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-81486 SADIE Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:17:31 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=9433#comment-81486 Profoundly said and summarized, Ymar. Profoundly said and summarized, Ymar.

]]> By: Ymarsakar http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/11/04/election-day-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-81478 Ymarsakar Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:36:44 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=9433#comment-81478 <strong>Conservatives’ money went to pay for specious attack ads against Hoffman <em> run by the NRCC</em> like <a href="http://media.nationalreview.com/post/?q=Zjg2NWRhZGNhZmMyZTc0ZjA5MTRkZGRjZDNhZmQ4ZTI=" rel="nofollow">this</a>. </strong> <strong>Conservatives’ money went to support a GOP candidate who shares the same socialist alliances with <a href="http://michellemalkin.com/2009/11/02/how-patrick-gaspard-obamas-acornwfpseiu-air-traffic-controller-intervened-in-ny-23/" rel="nofollow">fellow SEIU/ACORN/New Party/Working Families Party activist Patrick Gaspard</a>, the Obama White House political director who intervened in the race to secure Scozzafava’s endorsement of Owens.</strong> I'll keep saying this because it needs to be said. Especially for those in denial. The purge required of the Republican party is always rejected on the basis that people don't want to do what needs doing. They want to compromise, as in deny the fundamental problems and hope they can appease their enemies into a 'grand alliance'. Many people, regardless of their ideology, have no solution for getting rid of the internal saboteurs of the Republican party. They either say that such things are an acceptable cost of 'big party' politics, or they say that it will alienate 'moderates' (like Ozzie), or they say that social conservatism isn't going to win the votes needed. Never do they say what they are going to do about the internal sabotage evident in the Republican party, carried out by Republicans on other Republicans. Nowhere do they accept the magnitude of the problem. And no when have they accepted the drastic purges needed to resolve the issue. It's cowardice. It's not stupidity. It's not ignorance. They don't need me to tell them anything. They've seen, again and again, what Republicans have done to Republicans, not to help the nation or even the party, but to help Democrats win or enrich their own bank accounts. They don't know how to make things better, but they seem very frenzied and passionate about rejecting a purge. Denial is not an issue exclusive to only Democrats or the Left. It's a human trait designed to protect human flaws, egos, and ambitions. But there are times when things are desperate enough that human denial becomes counter-productive to human survival. Crowder, the on air personality from PJ TV, said in response concerning the 'wine sipping' Republicans that undermined Sarah Palin's campaign, that he wasn't a wine sipping Republican because he lacked excitement on Sarah Palin. As if this disproved the internal corruption of the Republican party, unseen and undealt with by popular consent. People are naturally parochial in that they don't see a threat if the people they know don't see a threat or if they don't see a threat amongst the people they know. But the world consists of abstract and concrete aspects not limited simply to the village we grew up in. The Democrats may lose an election or two, in the coming years. But ultimate victory will not be seen for us if the Republican party isn't purged of saboteurs, insurgents, traitors, greedy idiots, and corrupt Democrat quislings. There is no strategy alive that can ignore, deny, or bypass this truth. If people aren't convinced by the facts that have happened so far, they may need to suffer more in the coming years before they will accept enlightenment on this score. That may even be right and proper, for I suspect we were not made to be able to feel pain to further ignorance. Endure. In Enduring, grow strong. Victory requires a price in terms of sacrifice: the sacrifice of enemies and allies.   Conservatives’ money went to pay for specious attack ads against Hoffman run by the NRCC like this.
Conservatives’ money went to support a GOP candidate who shares the same socialist alliances with fellow SEIU/ACORN/New Party/Working Families Party activist Patrick Gaspard, the Obama White House political director who intervened in the race to secure Scozzafava’s endorsement of Owens.
I’ll keep saying this because it needs to be said. Especially for those in denial.
The purge required of the Republican party is always rejected on the basis that people don’t want to do what needs doing. They want to compromise, as in deny the fundamental problems and hope they can appease their enemies into a ‘grand alliance’.
Many people, regardless of their ideology, have no solution for getting rid of the internal saboteurs of the Republican party. They either say that such things are an acceptable cost of ‘big party’ politics, or they say that it will alienate ‘moderates’ (like Ozzie), or they say that social conservatism isn’t going to win the votes needed. Never do they say what they are going to do about the internal sabotage evident in the Republican party, carried out by Republicans on other Republicans. Nowhere do they accept the magnitude of the problem. And no when have they accepted the drastic purges needed to resolve the issue.
It’s cowardice. It’s not stupidity. It’s not ignorance. They don’t need me to tell them anything. They’ve seen, again and again, what Republicans have done to Republicans, not to help the nation or even the party, but to help Democrats win or enrich their own bank accounts.
They don’t know how to make things better, but they seem very frenzied and passionate about rejecting a purge. Denial is not an issue exclusive to only Democrats or the Left. It’s a human trait designed to protect human flaws, egos, and ambitions. But there are times when things are desperate enough that human denial becomes counter-productive to human survival.
Crowder, the on air personality from PJ TV, said in response concerning the ‘wine sipping’ Republicans that undermined Sarah Palin’s campaign, that he wasn’t a wine sipping Republican because he lacked excitement on Sarah Palin. As if this disproved the internal corruption of the Republican party, unseen and undealt with by popular consent. People are naturally parochial in that they don’t see a threat if the people they know don’t see a threat or if they don’t see a threat amongst the people they know. But the world consists of abstract and concrete aspects not limited simply to the village we grew up in.

The Democrats may lose an election or two, in the coming years. But ultimate victory will not be seen for us if the Republican party isn’t purged of saboteurs, insurgents, traitors, greedy idiots, and corrupt Democrat quislings. There is no strategy alive that can ignore, deny, or bypass this truth. If people aren’t convinced by the facts that have happened so far, they may need to suffer more in the coming years before they will accept enlightenment on this score. That may even be right and proper, for I suspect we were not made to be able to feel pain to further ignorance.
Endure. In Enduring, grow strong. Victory requires a price in terms of sacrifice: the sacrifice of enemies and allies.
 

]]> By: suek http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/11/04/election-day-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-81474 suek Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:14:51 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=9433#comment-81474 Just ran across this: (be sure to read the comments - they're almost as interesting as the article) http://blog.simplejustice.us/2009/11/04/the-poisoned-water-of-maricopa-county.aspx?ref=rss   I've been an Arpaio admirer.  This makes me wonder.  But then you have the fact that people keep re-electing him to office.  Is this a case where the justice system has become so protective of defendants rights that the ordinary citizen loses theirs - and so abuse of the system results in protection of the citizen?  Even though it's supposed to be the other way around?  I don't know...     Just ran across this: (be sure to read the comments – they’re almost as interesting as the article)
http://blog.simplejustice.us/2009/11/04/the-poisoned-water-of-maricopa-county.aspx?ref=rss
 
I’ve been an Arpaio admirer.  This makes me wonder.  But then you have the fact that people keep re-electing him to office.  Is this a case where the justice system has become so protective of defendants rights that the ordinary citizen loses theirs – and so abuse of the system results in protection of the citizen?  Even though it’s supposed to be the other way around?  I don’t know…
 
 

]]> By: suek http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/11/04/election-day-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-81472 suek Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:24:43 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=9433#comment-81472 Economics for children.  I don't think this particular Dr.Seuss story was available when my kids were of the right age.  Give it to somebody you love for Christmas!!   http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2009/06/dr-seuss-on-economy.html Economics for children.  I don’t think this particular Dr.Seuss story was available when my kids were of the right age.  Give it to somebody you love for Christmas!!
 
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2009/06/dr-seuss-on-economy.html

]]> By: suek http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/11/04/election-day-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-81470 suek Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:48:53 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=9433#comment-81470 >>Expect the same three-step to occur here.>>   Heh.  Michelle Malkin has a post up with a photo of a protester carrying a big sign that says "It doesn't matter what this poster says - you'll just say it's racist anyway"  or something pretty close.   >>stick the stork head>>   Ostrich, Mike...Ostrich!  Storks deliver babies...they don't stick their heads in the sand!  Thank heavens ostriches don't deliver babies!! >>Expect the same three-step to occur here.>>
 
Heh.  Michelle Malkin has a post up with a photo of a protester carrying a big sign that says “It doesn’t matter what this poster says – you’ll just say it’s racist anyway”  or something pretty close.
 
>>stick the stork head>>
 
Ostrich, Mike…Ostrich!  Storks deliver babies…they don’t stick their heads in the sand!  Thank heavens ostriches don’t deliver babies!!

]]> By: Mike Devx http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/11/04/election-day-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-81428 Mike Devx Thu, 05 Nov 2009 08:54:03 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=9433#comment-81428 Well, well, well, well.   Obama plays the see-no-evil hear-no-evil game (hands over eyes. hands over ears. "la la la la la".)  This is reminiscent of  his summertime game: "What tea party protests?  I haven't heard anything about them."  That was soon followed by, "They're just a bunch of mean, vicious malcontents, whining.  And they're DANGEROUS.  They're inciting people to violence!"  When that didn't work, they fell back on the tired old usual: "They hate Obama because he's black.  They're RACISTS."  Expect the same three-step to occur here.   In addition, he's playing his tired, tired old Bush card.  As the Drudge headline says: "One year on, Obama cites struggle with Bush legacy."  In 2011, will he still be complaining about Bush, blaming it all on Bush?  Beat that dead horse, beat that dead horse!   Meanwhile Pelosi and the others are claiming "We won the election results."  You go, girl!  That's the way to stick the stork head into the ground.  I don't mind this kind of wishful thinking, denial of reality at all!  You keep right on doing it.  It's perrrrrr-fect.  Keep right on doing that.   This is all so very enjoyable.  If only it weren't so (temporarily) harmful to this wonderful country of ours, these games the Democrats are playing.       Well, well, well, well.
 
Obama plays the see-no-evil hear-no-evil game (hands over eyes. hands over ears. “la la la la la”.)  This is reminiscent of  his summertime game: “What tea party protests?  I haven’t heard anything about them.”  That was soon followed by, “They’re just a bunch of mean, vicious malcontents, whining.  And they’re DANGEROUS.  They’re inciting people to violence!”  When that didn’t work, they fell back on the tired old usual: “They hate Obama because he’s black.  They’re RACISTS.”  Expect the same three-step to occur here.
 
In addition, he’s playing his tired, tired old Bush card.  As the Drudge headline says: “One year on, Obama cites struggle with Bush legacy.”  In 2011, will he still be complaining about Bush, blaming it all on Bush?  Beat that dead horse, beat that dead horse!
 
Meanwhile Pelosi and the others are claiming “We won the election results.”  You go, girl!  That’s the way to stick the stork head into the ground.  I don’t mind this kind of wishful thinking, denial of reality at all!  You keep right on doing it.  It’s perrrrrr-fect.  Keep right on doing that.
 
This is all so very enjoyable.  If only it weren’t so (temporarily) harmful to this wonderful country of ours, these games the Democrats are playing.
 
 
 

]]> By: SADIE http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/11/04/election-day-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-81400 SADIE Thu, 05 Nov 2009 03:18:07 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=9433#comment-81400 suek, I checked them out. Whew! I think Dan Brown has enough material for another novel. suek, I checked them out.
Whew! I think Dan Brown has enough material for another novel.

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