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		<title>By: SADIE</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/11/06/dont-buy-a-policy-go-to-jail/comment-page-1/#comment-81632</link>
		<dc:creator>SADIE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don’t &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;think &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;they’ve thought this through.
Think + Congress = Oxymoron</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t <strong><em>think </em></strong>they’ve thought this through.<br />
Think + Congress = Oxymoron</p>
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		<title>By: BrianE</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/11/06/dont-buy-a-policy-go-to-jail/comment-page-1/#comment-81631</link>
		<dc:creator>BrianE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Senator Judd Gregg says it will cost $3 trillion dollars. Heritage says it will &quot;only&quot; cost $2.4 trillion. 
CBO says it will cost $1.7 trillion. That assumes Congress will made the additional $600 billion cuts to medicare.

I have two questions for those who favor government run health care.

Name a government program that didn&#039;t cost more, much more than claimed at the beginning?
If this health care is good enough for us, why isn&#039;t it good enough for Congress?


&lt;em&gt;As Heritage analysts noted earlier in the week, the Congressional Budget Office released its preliminary score of the bill (H.R. 3962) but too many in the media have not been reporting its true cost. The true cost is not the net spending on only the coverage related provisions ($897 billion) but rather the total gross spending for the coverage provisions ($1.05 trillion) as well as any additional spending in the bill (approximately $217 billion). That would raise the plan’s price tag to about $1.5 trillion when including the roughly $210 billion cost of the “doc fix” is included. The “doc fix” refers to the undoing of the flawed Medicare payment update formula, which Congress created but has routinely stopped from being enforced. Under current law, that formula would result in a 20 percent reduction in doctors’ pay under the Medicare program.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;em&gt;The real story about the true cost is even more dramatic. The bill is front loaded with taxes, and back-loaded with spending in the first ten years. Since most of the spending in the House bill does not fully go into effect until 2014, the 10-year cost estimates based on the preliminary CBO score (for years 2010 through 2019) only account for six years of new spending under the plan. Once it is implemented (over a full 10-year window from years 2014 to 2023), the giant House health bill carries a price tag of $2.4 trillion, or as much as $2.6 trillion with the “doc fix.”

&lt;a href=&quot;http://hotair.com/archives/2009/11/07/gregg-cbo-cost-estimate-of-pelosi-plan-3-trillion/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://hotair.com/archives/2009/11/07/gregg-cbo-cost-estimate-of-pelosi-plan-3-trillion/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Senator Judd Gregg says it will cost $3 trillion dollars. Heritage says it will &#8220;only&#8221; cost $2.4 trillion.<br />
CBO says it will cost $1.7 trillion. That assumes Congress will made the additional $600 billion cuts to medicare.</p>
<p>I have two questions for those who favor government run health care.</p>
<p>Name a government program that didn&#8217;t cost more, much more than claimed at the beginning?<br />
If this health care is good enough for us, why isn&#8217;t it good enough for Congress?</p>
<p><em>As Heritage analysts noted earlier in the week, the Congressional Budget Office released its preliminary score of the bill (H.R. 3962) but too many in the media have not been reporting its true cost. The true cost is not the net spending on only the coverage related provisions ($897 billion) but rather the total gross spending for the coverage provisions ($1.05 trillion) as well as any additional spending in the bill (approximately $217 billion). That would raise the plan’s price tag to about $1.5 trillion when including the roughly $210 billion cost of the “doc fix” is included. The “doc fix” refers to the undoing of the flawed Medicare payment update formula, which Congress created but has routinely stopped from being enforced. Under current law, that formula would result in a 20 percent reduction in doctors’ pay under the Medicare program.</em><br />
<em>The real story about the true cost is even more dramatic. The bill is front loaded with taxes, and back-loaded with spending in the first ten years. Since most of the spending in the House bill does not fully go into effect until 2014, the 10-year cost estimates based on the preliminary CBO score (for years 2010 through 2019) only account for six years of new spending under the plan. Once it is implemented (over a full 10-year window from years 2014 to 2023), the giant House health bill carries a price tag of $2.4 trillion, or as much as $2.6 trillion with the “doc fix.”</p>
<p><a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2009/11/07/gregg-cbo-cost-estimate-of-pelosi-plan-3-trillion/" rel="nofollow">http://hotair.com/archives/2009/11/07/gregg-cbo-cost-estimate-of-pelosi-plan-3-trillion/</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: SADIE</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/11/06/dont-buy-a-policy-go-to-jail/comment-page-1/#comment-81626</link>
		<dc:creator>SADIE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;OK, I’m confused. Is the “willful failure to pay” related to not buying health insurance or not paying the 2.5% penalty?
&lt;/em&gt;
Does it matter? Either way, it&#039;s FINE with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>OK, I’m confused. Is the “willful failure to pay” related to not buying health insurance or not paying the 2.5% penalty?<br />
</em><br />
Does it matter? Either way, it&#8217;s FINE with them.</p>
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		<title>By: BrianE</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/11/06/dont-buy-a-policy-go-to-jail/comment-page-1/#comment-81625</link>
		<dc:creator>BrianE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoops, I didn&#039;t read the last section.

“If the government determines that the taxpayer’s unpaid tax liability results from willful behavior, the following penalties could apply…” [page 2]

I doubt they&#039;d throw me in jail for 5 years, but I could image bureaucrats do this:
• Section 7203 – misdemeanor willful failure to pay is punishable by a fine of up to $25,000 and/or imprisonment of up to one year.

OK, I&#039;m confused. Is the &quot;willful failure to pay&quot; related to not buying health insurance or not paying the 2.5% penalty?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoops, I didn&#8217;t read the last section.</p>
<p>“If the government determines that the taxpayer’s unpaid tax liability results from willful behavior, the following penalties could apply…” [page 2]</p>
<p>I doubt they&#8217;d throw me in jail for 5 years, but I could image bureaucrats do this:<br />
• Section 7203 – misdemeanor willful failure to pay is punishable by a fine of up to $25,000 and/or imprisonment of up to one year.</p>
<p>OK, I&#8217;m confused. Is the &#8220;willful failure to pay&#8221; related to not buying health insurance or not paying the 2.5% penalty?</p>
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		<title>By: BrianE</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/11/06/dont-buy-a-policy-go-to-jail/comment-page-1/#comment-81624</link>
		<dc:creator>BrianE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think they&#039;ve thought this through.
I&#039;ll just pay the 2.5% penalty. If I get sick, I&#039;ll buy insurance, since they can&#039;t refuse coverage or charge a premium for pre-existing.
This might be cheaper than when I had insurance.
This will be cheaper than my wife&#039;s employer plan, where our portion of the premium would be about $600 per month.
That&#039;s $7200 a year plus co-pays and deductible. My penalty would be $2500. The difference will more than pay for doctor visits, medicines, physicals, etc.
I guess you could think of the penalty as sort of catatrophic insurance. If a catastrophy happens, I&#039;ll buy better coverage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;ve thought this through.<br />
I&#8217;ll just pay the 2.5% penalty. If I get sick, I&#8217;ll buy insurance, since they can&#8217;t refuse coverage or charge a premium for pre-existing.<br />
This might be cheaper than when I had insurance.<br />
This will be cheaper than my wife&#8217;s employer plan, where our portion of the premium would be about $600 per month.<br />
That&#8217;s $7200 a year plus co-pays and deductible. My penalty would be $2500. The difference will more than pay for doctor visits, medicines, physicals, etc.<br />
I guess you could think of the penalty as sort of catatrophic insurance. If a catastrophy happens, I&#8217;ll buy better coverage.</p>
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		<title>By: SADIE</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/11/06/dont-buy-a-policy-go-to-jail/comment-page-1/#comment-81602</link>
		<dc:creator>SADIE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 00:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;MESSIAH MONOPOLY&lt;/strong&gt;
Do Not Pass GO
ACORN Community Chest
Fat CHANCE
Railroads (too late Warren Buffet controls them)
Electric Company (Crap &amp; Trade)
Water Works (Sierra Club)
Get Out of Jail Free Card (Congress has concession on them)
GO DIRECTLY TO JAIL (No problem)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>MESSIAH MONOPOLY</strong><br />
Do Not Pass GO<br />
ACORN Community Chest<br />
Fat CHANCE<br />
Railroads (too late Warren Buffet controls them)<br />
Electric Company (Crap &amp; Trade)<br />
Water Works (Sierra Club)<br />
Get Out of Jail Free Card (Congress has concession on them)<br />
GO DIRECTLY TO JAIL (No problem)</p>
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		<title>By: suek</title>
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		<dc:creator>suek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 00:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;and imprisonment of up to five years.&gt;&gt;
 
But  your health care will be free...!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;and imprisonment of up to five years.&gt;&gt;<br />
 <br />
But  your health care will be free&#8230;!</p>
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