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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
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		<description>NIce object lesson</description>
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		<title>By: john1066</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The police were called in to a tea party this weekend in Palo Alto.  So, in addition to self-defense, tea partiers should learn the law, including the Pruneyard decision:
http://thecitysquare.blogspot.com/2009/11/tea-party-breaks-out-in-palo-alto.html
Also, tea partiers should learn to spot Democrat infiltrators such as appeared at Saturday&#039;s Farmer&#039;s Relief Tea Party in San Jose:
http://thecitysquare.blogspot.com/2009/11/farmers-protest-in-san-jose.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The police were called in to a tea party this weekend in Palo Alto.  So, in addition to self-defense, tea partiers should learn the law, including the Pruneyard decision:<br />
<a href="http://thecitysquare.blogspot.com/2009/11/tea-party-breaks-out-in-palo-alto.html" rel="nofollow">http://thecitysquare.blogspot.com/2009/11/tea-party-breaks-out-in-palo-alto.html</a><br />
Also, tea partiers should learn to spot Democrat infiltrators such as appeared at Saturday&#8217;s Farmer&#8217;s Relief Tea Party in San Jose:<br />
<a href="http://thecitysquare.blogspot.com/2009/11/farmers-protest-in-san-jose.html" rel="nofollow">http://thecitysquare.blogspot.com/2009/11/farmers-protest-in-san-jose.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Form follows function.
 
Everything humans do with something is based upon the function we intend for it to have. For the Left, the function is absolute dominion over humanity. For conservatives, it is liberty and individual worth. Thus the form of the Left follows the function of the Left. The form of conservatives follow the function of conservatives. And the function itself is only a means to an end, that end being not the function itself, but the goal that function is supposed to achieve.
 
I am reminded of these basics after reading a manual on Medieval sword fighting developments, that I had shelved previously.
 
The rapier, the cut and thrust sword, the two handed swords, maces, halberds, knives, and so forth, all had a specifically designed function with a form that follows that function. War creates ingenuity because it stokes the creative genius of individuals in crafting better ways to kill motivated by the incentive of self-preservation and social rewards.
 
If you want something that will cut, you create a tool designed with such a function in mind. But that&#039;s not what I see in America. What I see is people having to make do with inferior materials and inferior construction techniques because the superior manufacturing methods and the superior materials are restricted from use. This is not just a 2nd Amendment or self-defense issue of the right to life. This is the limitation of the creative genius of the human mind, for when the human mind is prevented from creating the best tools to kill, it will also be prevented from creating all the other tools one uses to live. This is how technologically controlled dystopias prevent change through preventing technological advancement.
 
It used to be John Brown started tinkering and inventing a better functioning bullet catapult. Where are the current generation&#039;s John Browns? If a Russian individual can invent the AK-47, which is used world over, where are the individual American inventors? Maybe some are off studying Global Warming.
 
American society does not tolerate the idea of firearms because American society can&#039;t even tolerate the idea of getting rid of racism, for that would decrease the bank accounts of Sharpton, Obama, Reid, Pelosi, Dodd, and so forth. Obviously the idea of arming slaves to fight in the war of 1812 or the Revolutionary War was unthinkable, because getting rid of slavery was unthinkable. Form follows function.
 
American society does not tolerate edged weapons, but it cannot prevent a black youth from being beat to death by a two by four in Chicago&#039;s Obamafied streets. The Left thinks they can control the human creative output. They won&#039;t stop at firearms or healthcare or knives or eminent domain. Their goal is to control all, and in controlling all, they believe they can stop people from even thinking about how to use a two by four to get better results than bare fists. They think they can lease the creative output of the human mind for their plantation purposes. And they certainly have an opportunity and chance, for as seen in North Korea, all he creative output there exists to serve the Dearly Beloved Leader of NK.
 
To a certain extent, there is no single American society. Or rather there is one greater American society, but that generality makes it meaningless. In that general gray mush, you have small sub-societies that really define themselves with their identity. The Southern societal template vs the Berkley societal template, for example. The urban vs the rural. The sub-urban vs the urban. The elites in DC vs the other capitals of states. The mass murderers of the rest of the world vs our mass murderers. I mention the last because the Left have strong affinities for these foreign entities, as if they were related in some fashion.
 
The Left have dedicated themselves, heart and soul, to the destruction and transformation of America for their self-stated goal of universal dominion. Until there is a counter-force that dedicates itself to the destruction of the Left, the form of resistance will never be effective enough to create the function desired. Because even if people want the goal of a better America, first the must fulfill the function of a destroyed Left. Without that function, the form does not follow. Making an aesthetic mess of both the Republican party as well as anti-Democrat partisans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Form follows function.<br />
 <br />
Everything humans do with something is based upon the function we intend for it to have. For the Left, the function is absolute dominion over humanity. For conservatives, it is liberty and individual worth. Thus the form of the Left follows the function of the Left. The form of conservatives follow the function of conservatives. And the function itself is only a means to an end, that end being not the function itself, but the goal that function is supposed to achieve.<br />
 <br />
I am reminded of these basics after reading a manual on Medieval sword fighting developments, that I had shelved previously.<br />
 <br />
The rapier, the cut and thrust sword, the two handed swords, maces, halberds, knives, and so forth, all had a specifically designed function with a form that follows that function. War creates ingenuity because it stokes the creative genius of individuals in crafting better ways to kill motivated by the incentive of self-preservation and social rewards.<br />
 <br />
If you want something that will cut, you create a tool designed with such a function in mind. But that&#8217;s not what I see in America. What I see is people having to make do with inferior materials and inferior construction techniques because the superior manufacturing methods and the superior materials are restricted from use. This is not just a 2nd Amendment or self-defense issue of the right to life. This is the limitation of the creative genius of the human mind, for when the human mind is prevented from creating the best tools to kill, it will also be prevented from creating all the other tools one uses to live. This is how technologically controlled dystopias prevent change through preventing technological advancement.<br />
 <br />
It used to be John Brown started tinkering and inventing a better functioning bullet catapult. Where are the current generation&#8217;s John Browns? If a Russian individual can invent the AK-47, which is used world over, where are the individual American inventors? Maybe some are off studying Global Warming.<br />
 <br />
American society does not tolerate the idea of firearms because American society can&#8217;t even tolerate the idea of getting rid of racism, for that would decrease the bank accounts of Sharpton, Obama, Reid, Pelosi, Dodd, and so forth. Obviously the idea of arming slaves to fight in the war of 1812 or the Revolutionary War was unthinkable, because getting rid of slavery was unthinkable. Form follows function.<br />
 <br />
American society does not tolerate edged weapons, but it cannot prevent a black youth from being beat to death by a two by four in Chicago&#8217;s Obamafied streets. The Left thinks they can control the human creative output. They won&#8217;t stop at firearms or healthcare or knives or eminent domain. Their goal is to control all, and in controlling all, they believe they can stop people from even thinking about how to use a two by four to get better results than bare fists. They think they can lease the creative output of the human mind for their plantation purposes. And they certainly have an opportunity and chance, for as seen in North Korea, all he creative output there exists to serve the Dearly Beloved Leader of NK.<br />
 <br />
To a certain extent, there is no single American society. Or rather there is one greater American society, but that generality makes it meaningless. In that general gray mush, you have small sub-societies that really define themselves with their identity. The Southern societal template vs the Berkley societal template, for example. The urban vs the rural. The sub-urban vs the urban. The elites in DC vs the other capitals of states. The mass murderers of the rest of the world vs our mass murderers. I mention the last because the Left have strong affinities for these foreign entities, as if they were related in some fashion.<br />
 <br />
The Left have dedicated themselves, heart and soul, to the destruction and transformation of America for their self-stated goal of universal dominion. Until there is a counter-force that dedicates itself to the destruction of the Left, the form of resistance will never be effective enough to create the function desired. Because even if people want the goal of a better America, first the must fulfill the function of a destroyed Left. Without that function, the form does not follow. Making an aesthetic mess of both the Republican party as well as anti-Democrat partisans.</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 03:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thx</description>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think one of my comments is in moderation here, Book.</description>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t favor complicated ad hoc implements. Not only do they have structural weaknesses that won&#039;t allow the sustainment of great force, they are also complicated to grasp. Last thing one needs is to spend valuable time aligning particular objects in one&#039;s hand correctly, whether it be two sharp pieces of plastic or a few hard but loosely a fixed keys. At the same time, however, humanity has always tried to figure out a better way to do things utilizing our environment. The moment we figured out that we couldn&#039;t kill a sabre tooth tiger barehanded, we started looking for rocks to hit it from a distance, and when that didn&#039;t work out with much certainty, we took a stick and started swinging it. And then we learned that if you attach a rock to the end of the stick, it&#039;d be better than either one added together (although they didn&#039;t know what adding was). This as given humanity an instinct that to survive, one needs some tools from the environment to give oneself an edge. Now that we have progressed to decadence in civilization, it&#039;s important to look back and integrate what the species has learned.
 
If you watch the video in the original post, you can see that the use of a sign was utilized with great intent. Great enough that the sign shattered; perhaps the stick as well. Those kind of make shift implements to extend your range or force of strike, like the bottle or the pool cue, are rather unreliable. Either they don&#039;t do anything against the target, because the force is splintered by the tensile weakness and inadequate leverage of the object, or it kills someone because you hit them with a lucky shot. This is kind of like Russian roulette.
 
I don&#039;t like the odds of that.
 
Let&#039;s take something of a subjective nature. What is &quot;great damage&quot;? Any sharp edge can penetrate through the skin and create a cut at the upper level of the fat which surrounds the muscles. With a sharper blade, a heavier blade, or really hard work, you can penetrate deeper to get at veins, arteries, nerves, muscles, and organs.
 

This will stop anybody that would normally be stopped by pain. If a bully feels pain, sees his victim fighting back, or feels the odds are now against them, there is a high to certain chance the bully will attempt to retreat. It doesn&#039;t work on those that aren&#039;t stopped by such things because they have chosen not to be. Pain, is after all, a stimuli that still gives you a choice. It&#039;s just a very persuasive argument not to do that which causes more pain.
 
Knives use the same principles to cause damage that anything else uses. Take a blunt force impact with bone or wood as an example. The difference is that except of doing damage with a sharp edge, you do it with blunt force trauma. Instead of bleeding from the skin to the outside, you get internal bleeding. Instead of a nicked or cut portion of the human anatomy, you have a crushed anatomical feature that is now just as broken as if a knife stabbed it or cut it. The same principles apply in either case. Kinetic force is applied to a target, translated, and then set up so that the energies are all expended in the target. For a knife, the target is what the edge or point hits, which being very small translates enormous kinetic force from the handle/user, thus creating a break in the target material. Blunt force trauma from any object or human body part uses the same principles, except spreading the force over a broader area. Thus it requires greater force to penetrate as deep as the knife would have with lesser force. The force will translate into the body as a shock wave, but not break the skin. Usually because the compression limit of skin is better than your heart or liver&#039;s ability to compress in on itself. Not to mention hematoma for the brain.
 
Humans beings figured this out either through experimentation or science. They started refining these things, like adding weight to the tip of a big sword to make it cut through armor better. They changed the curve and shape of a steel sword to make its utility different. They changed the composition of steel to make edges maintain sharpness and to have a better edge in general. They added a huge ball of metal spikes to a club, thus crushing plate armor (translating enough force to dent the armor and rupture internal soft organs) rather than attempting to cut through very strong steel.
 

The thing is, now that we live in a decadent society, we live under limits. Much of the tools we could wield, are now restricted. Whether it be the firearm or the nuclear bomb. You are prevented from utilizing it except under specific scenarios. So that engenders an instinctual need to find replacements that can be used without such limitations. But at the same time, those replacements are never going to be as good as what humanity originally intended for war because anything intended for war is restricted. So we&#039;re left with our original ability, the human mind&#039;s ability to make a tool out of anything in order to solve the problem of a living threat. And our first immediate tool is our body, one step away from the brain. Unlike a credit card or a key, you&#039;ll never lose your body, unless a limb gets amputated. But then I think you have more serious problems than you can&#039;t use that limb anymore.
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t favor complicated ad hoc implements. Not only do they have structural weaknesses that won&#8217;t allow the sustainment of great force, they are also complicated to grasp. Last thing one needs is to spend valuable time aligning particular objects in one&#8217;s hand correctly, whether it be two sharp pieces of plastic or a few hard but loosely a fixed keys. At the same time, however, humanity has always tried to figure out a better way to do things utilizing our environment. The moment we figured out that we couldn&#8217;t kill a sabre tooth tiger barehanded, we started looking for rocks to hit it from a distance, and when that didn&#8217;t work out with much certainty, we took a stick and started swinging it. And then we learned that if you attach a rock to the end of the stick, it&#8217;d be better than either one added together (although they didn&#8217;t know what adding was). This as given humanity an instinct that to survive, one needs some tools from the environment to give oneself an edge. Now that we have progressed to decadence in civilization, it&#8217;s important to look back and integrate what the species has learned.<br />
 <br />
If you watch the video in the original post, you can see that the use of a sign was utilized with great intent. Great enough that the sign shattered; perhaps the stick as well. Those kind of make shift implements to extend your range or force of strike, like the bottle or the pool cue, are rather unreliable. Either they don&#8217;t do anything against the target, because the force is splintered by the tensile weakness and inadequate leverage of the object, or it kills someone because you hit them with a lucky shot. This is kind of like Russian roulette.<br />
 <br />
I don&#8217;t like the odds of that.<br />
 <br />
Let&#8217;s take something of a subjective nature. What is &#8220;great damage&#8221;? Any sharp edge can penetrate through the skin and create a cut at the upper level of the fat which surrounds the muscles. With a sharper blade, a heavier blade, or really hard work, you can penetrate deeper to get at veins, arteries, nerves, muscles, and organs.<br />
 </p>
<p>This will stop anybody that would normally be stopped by pain. If a bully feels pain, sees his victim fighting back, or feels the odds are now against them, there is a high to certain chance the bully will attempt to retreat. It doesn&#8217;t work on those that aren&#8217;t stopped by such things because they have chosen not to be. Pain, is after all, a stimuli that still gives you a choice. It&#8217;s just a very persuasive argument not to do that which causes more pain.<br />
 <br />
Knives use the same principles to cause damage that anything else uses. Take a blunt force impact with bone or wood as an example. The difference is that except of doing damage with a sharp edge, you do it with blunt force trauma. Instead of bleeding from the skin to the outside, you get internal bleeding. Instead of a nicked or cut portion of the human anatomy, you have a crushed anatomical feature that is now just as broken as if a knife stabbed it or cut it. The same principles apply in either case. Kinetic force is applied to a target, translated, and then set up so that the energies are all expended in the target. For a knife, the target is what the edge or point hits, which being very small translates enormous kinetic force from the handle/user, thus creating a break in the target material. Blunt force trauma from any object or human body part uses the same principles, except spreading the force over a broader area. Thus it requires greater force to penetrate as deep as the knife would have with lesser force. The force will translate into the body as a shock wave, but not break the skin. Usually because the compression limit of skin is better than your heart or liver&#8217;s ability to compress in on itself. Not to mention hematoma for the brain.<br />
 <br />
Humans beings figured this out either through experimentation or science. They started refining these things, like adding weight to the tip of a big sword to make it cut through armor better. They changed the curve and shape of a steel sword to make its utility different. They changed the composition of steel to make edges maintain sharpness and to have a better edge in general. They added a huge ball of metal spikes to a club, thus crushing plate armor (translating enough force to dent the armor and rupture internal soft organs) rather than attempting to cut through very strong steel.<br />
 </p>
<p>The thing is, now that we live in a decadent society, we live under limits. Much of the tools we could wield, are now restricted. Whether it be the firearm or the nuclear bomb. You are prevented from utilizing it except under specific scenarios. So that engenders an instinctual need to find replacements that can be used without such limitations. But at the same time, those replacements are never going to be as good as what humanity originally intended for war because anything intended for war is restricted. So we&#8217;re left with our original ability, the human mind&#8217;s ability to make a tool out of anything in order to solve the problem of a living threat. And our first immediate tool is our body, one step away from the brain. Unlike a credit card or a key, you&#8217;ll never lose your body, unless a limb gets amputated. But then I think you have more serious problems than you can&#8217;t use that limb anymore.<br />
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		<title>By: Danny Lemieux</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny Lemieux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another simple self-defense weapon is the credit card:  bend it to form two triangles (from opposite corners), work it until it breaks. Voila...you have two knives to insert between your two forefinger knuckles, with which to do great damage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another simple self-defense weapon is the credit card:  bend it to form two triangles (from opposite corners), work it until it breaks. Voila&#8230;you have two knives to insert between your two forefinger knuckles, with which to do great damage.</p>
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		<title>By: Bookworm</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/11/17/all-tea-partiers-need-to-learn-basic-self-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-82434</link>
		<dc:creator>Bookworm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Who knew that a newspaper could still be useful?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The stick with a rock lashed to the end. Once, it was the nuclear weapon of the human species.</description>
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		<title>By: 11B40</title>
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		<dc:creator>11B40</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings:
Back in the last &#039;60s, when I began my basketball travels throughout the Bronx and more distant parts of New York City, my father called me aside one evening for one of his Denis-me-boy-o counseling sessions.  He had become aware of my travels indirectly and, among other things, wanted to impart some of his youthful experience from the Great Depression.  What he taught me was this;  when traveling in the more distant and less refined areas, a good thing to bring along is a broadsheet newspaper like the San Francisco Comical, I mean Chronicle, or the New York Times.  When unfolded as for reading and then rolled along the longer dimension and then folded in half, the newspaper becomes about an 8-inch limb extender with a rock on the end (the fold) that can be assembled in seconds.  A useful tool which rarely has to be applied more than once per person.  Better to light a candle than curse the darkness that has descended on this land.</description>
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Back in the last &#8217;60s, when I began my basketball travels throughout the Bronx and more distant parts of New York City, my father called me aside one evening for one of his Denis-me-boy-o counseling sessions.  He had become aware of my travels indirectly and, among other things, wanted to impart some of his youthful experience from the Great Depression.  What he taught me was this;  when traveling in the more distant and less refined areas, a good thing to bring along is a broadsheet newspaper like the San Francisco Comical, I mean Chronicle, or the New York Times.  When unfolded as for reading and then rolled along the longer dimension and then folded in half, the newspaper becomes about an 8-inch limb extender with a rock on the end (the fold) that can be assembled in seconds.  A useful tool which rarely has to be applied more than once per person.  Better to light a candle than curse the darkness that has descended on this land.</p>
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