Fight fiercely, Military, fight, fight fight!

In the “better late than never” category, I discovered a few days ago that my local conservative radio station, KSFO, maintains a rolling archive of all the shows they’ve aired over the preceding seven days.  This means that, finally, I can listen to Rush, whose radio show normally comes along at the world’s most inconvenient time for me.  Today, while I took the dog for her morning walk, I plugged into my iPhone and listened to Hour 2 of Rush’s November 24 show.  The focus during the part I heard was the fact that the four Navy SEALS who brought in one of the Fallujah murders are being court-martialed for giving the guy a fat lip in the field of battle, when he resisted capture.  This prosecution, of course, will encourage the armed forces either to avoid capturing anyone or to kill all captures so that the prisoners can’t later cry “rape” (or the battlefield equivalent).

That’s the obvious stuff, though, and you all know it.  What interested me on Rush’s show was the call from an ex-SEAL with close ties in that community.  This caller claimed that scuttlebutt has it that this whole prosecution is payback for the fact that, when the SEALS rescued the captain off of Somalia a few months ago, they ended up using more force than the administration authorized.  This wasn’t surprising, because the administration essentially authorized no force at all, which pretty much defeats the whole purpose of a military engagement, whether overt or covert.  By going after these four SEALS now, the powers that be in the administration are making it clear that the concept of a military is fine with the administration, as long as it doesn’t actually do anything.

I could waffle on about this sad state of affairs, but I know you guys are all ahead of me on it.  I will say, though, that this practically and morally bereft attitude is not surprising coming from this Ivy League administration.  Back in the late 1950s/early 1950s, Tom Lehrer, himself an Ivy League product and professor, took a look at Harvard’s elite sensibilities, and wrote the perfect fight song:  “Fight fiercely, Harvard!”  Tell me if he wasn’t prescient in that our entire effete, Leftist administration now wants to fight war the same way:

Fight fiercely, Harvard, fight, fight, fight
Demonstrate to them our skill
Albeit they possess the might
Nonetheless we have the will
How we shall celebrate our victory
We shall invite the whole team up for tea, how jolly
Hurl that spheroid down the field
And fight, fight, fight

Fight fiercely, Harvard, Fight, fight, fight
Impress them with our prowess, do
Oh, fellows, do not let the Crimson down
Be of stout heart and true
Come on, chaps, fight for Harvard’s glorious name
Won’t it be peachy if we win the game, oh, goody
Let’s try not to injure them
But fight, fight, fight – Let’s not be rough, though
Fight, fight, fight – And do fight fiercely
Fight, fight, fight

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  • Ymarsakar

    People voted for the destruction of the US military when they cast the ballot for Obama. Now they want to wash their hands clean and direct the blood guilt elsewhere, as if Bush was the one that had stretched the US military to the breaking point and not them.


    Being retired military, I’m in an “insufficient data” situation.  There’s a paucity of information available — I can’t even find who the convening authority is, much less any specifics.  Nothing on nor  I suspect that bookworm‘s take on this is correct, but there is a small chance that there is much more to the story than we know.   One possible scenario:

    SEALs capture the bast… Ahmed; possibly with a struggle.
    Ahmed put in jail cell.
    Ahmed bloodies his own lip or reopens wound received during capture.
    Ahmed and his lawyer lodge complaint, as is SOP with jihadists.
    Investigating officer finds a “he-said, no-he-said” situation, and doesn’t want to make the call, so refers charges up the command.
    A senior commander (Admiral?) decides to deal with the charges.
    SEALs request full court martial rather that Admiral’s Mast (non-judicial punishment hearing).  (This provides them with legal represention, a military judge, and possibly a court (jury), and has stricter rules of evidence.  It is also more open to the public.)

    That’s where we stand now.  The italicized items above refer to speculation.  To be frank, my money’d be on the SEALs on this:  that they will be vindicated.

  • Earl

    RE: the subject at hand — I totally agree with c.b.i.  From the moment I heard this, my (admitted) bias inclined me to think that the terrorist bloodied his own lip in order to accuse his captors!  Don’t we have Al Qaeda manuals instructing them in what lies to tell to get their jailers in trouble?
    One other thing….this post provides the SECOND thing of immense practical value that I’ve gotten from Bookworm’s site – the first was the URL for a location to buy MBT shoes at a discount.  I wear nothing else these days, and buying them at 40% (or more) off the MSRP has saved me a LOT of money.  And now, a place to listen to Rush’s podcasts for free!!  Wowie-Zowie!!  At last!  Thank you, thank you…….

  • Ymarsakar

    The terrorist would not have relied on a protest in any other nation. He was trained for this, obviously. Trained by those aiding and abetting terrorism in the US.
    The anti-Gitmo people, to name just one faction, changes the rules on interrogations and holdings, which the terrorists then study in public and proceed to take advantage of. They claim these changes are for human rights ,but since when has the Left ever advanced human rights, anywhere? They’re lying just like terrorists are lying about abuse.

  • Ymarsakar

    What makes terrorism dangerous isn’t that they like to kill people, or even blowing themselves up to kill people. What makes them abnormally dangerous is that they are asymmetric. It isn’t that we have a fight, we attack, they defend, they attack, and we defend. that’d be symmetrical. Asymmetrical warfare is them killing us and we have no defense.
    As there is no defense now against their tactics.


    If you’re asking yourself about the Navy Seals today … get out a pencil and paper, I think there are more questions coming up.
    snip here and the rest below at link
    Secretary of State Hillary Clinton expressed “great regret” in August that the U.S. is not a signatory to the International Criminal Court (ICC). This has fueled speculation that the Obama administration may reverse another Bush policy and sign up for what could lead to the trial of Americans for war crimes in The Hague.

  • NavyOne

    Recently, we have been shifting our resources from Iraq to Afghanistan.  And one day last week, before a flight, a commercial came on AFN.  It was President Obama telling fathers to read to their children, to pay attention to them.  It was a nice, weird thought.  I was about to spend the whole day over Afghanistan and it just struck me as odd.  We need direction and decisions, not platitudes from our Commander. So, I grabbed a Stars and Stripes.  I usually try to find one before I fly, mostly to read while the ground crew runs their two hour+ check.  And in it is an article remarking on the Great Wall of China.  There is Obama saying: It looked magical!  That is his quote.  I am not anti-Obama, but magical is supporting your men and women as they do their job.  Actually, that is not magical, but loyal.  I have nothing else to say. . .  

  • Gringo

    Criminal charges would be better applied to those who wanted to chastise the SEALs in the first place.
    Interesting how often Tom Lehrer songs pop up in political blogs these days. My parents corrupted my childhood by exposing me to his songs, which I have had memorized for decades.  His topical comedy songs, which by definition apply to a given era, are still apropos and humorous a half century later. His output was sparse but magnificent. Don’t agree with his politics, but love his songs.
    War and football.  Famed Ohio State  football coach Woody Hayes was renowned for his knowledge of military history. It could be said that he went down swinging, as he got fired for punching an opponent who had intercepted an Ohio State pass.
    One further comment about war and football. In discussions about John Kerry and his four medals, some ex-servicemen pointed out to me that it was useless to engage in a discussion about whether he deserved them or not. They pointed out that some servicemen performed acts of heroism for which medals were deserved, but did not win any medals. Conversely, some received medals which they did not deserve. Nonetheless, I found it interesting that I have suffered more grievous wounds from weekend soccer and football games than Kerry suffered for his medals.

  • Ymarsakar

    Gringo, Kerry himself admitted he was going around blowing up villages and shooting innocent civilians and what not. Just cause his ‘whistleblower’ status gave him immunity, just means he was either telling the truth about himself or he was lying.

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