Comments on: A chilling reminder why we need to preserve our Second Amendment rights

By: suek

suek — Wed, 09 Dec 2009 17:22:55 +0000

Haven’t listened to the tape yet.

I keep coming back to the fact that the woman was holding a _shotgun_ and the lights were on. The attacker was outside a glass door – he could _see_ that she was holding a shotgun. In spite of that, he broke the glass door instead of leaving. That says volumes and volumes about the intensity of his intentions.
The other thing is that I was unable to find out any background info on the attacker, in spite of the fact that the photo from 2005 that newsok has on it’s website appears to show him in prison orange. Not sure of that, but if so…why no info on his record? Entirely possible to me that he shouldn’t have been on the loose.

By: the B2 Journal | Another Second Amendment Lesson

the B2 Journal | Another Second Amendment Lesson — Wed, 09 Dec 2009 17:15:26 +0000

[...] Jackson’s chilling encounter was taped and made available by the Emergency Dispatch Center. You can read about it at Bookworm Room or listen to the 911 call [...]

By: Deana

Deana — Wed, 09 Dec 2009 16:11:02 +0000

I am so late to this discussion but I just finished listening to the entire 30 minutes of this tape.

I was ok for the first 8 minutes or so and then, like Lulu, I felt tears welling up in my eyes as I listened to this extraordinary woman. All I could think was, “What if we did not have this right?? What then?” About 10 minutes elapsed after she shot the man to when the cops could finally get there (and no doubt, they were coming at top speed).

A lot of damage can be done in 10 minutes.

Wow. Just wow. One of the most powerful things I’ve seen or heard yet.

Deana

By: vanderleun

vanderleun — Wed, 09 Dec 2009 03:11:17 +0000

Amazing, but everyone has to listen to the 33 minute full tape.

It’ at

http://www.newsok.com/homeowner-shoots-kills-intruder-in-lincoln-county/article/3422809

Rivettng.

By: 11B40

11B40 — Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:48:23 +0000

Greetings:
Once again, the gunfighter’s mantra: Control yourself; control your weapon; control your target.
Or, slightly updated: God created all humans and Samuel Colt made them equal.

By: Doug

Doug — Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:43:49 +0000

I don’t know the timeline of the Washington incident but at Fort Hood I believe the whole thing was about 10 minutes.
And again, the two minute response time I saw was an absolute best case. When Fremont PD stopped responding to alarm company calls part of their argument was that they had an average response time of 21 minutes and the private companies claimed better times. Apparently they were treating them as relatively low priority calls unless there was also a 911 followup since even if it was really a break-in it was just property at stake. Um, yeah, unless you didn’t have time to get to the phone…

By: Ymarsakar

Ymarsakar — Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:34:44 +0000

Contrary to popular opinion here in the US, no, people Do Not Want liberty. Vis a vis Iraq, Americans always kept complaining that Iraqis didn’t want freedom, didn’t want to fight for it.

How’s that coming from a generally Leftist ideological position that says you need to suck up to the government for bennies because you need the government for safety? Too many prosperous hypocrites these days living it up as parasites on the public body. Leeches and viruses.

Human beings operate within their own perceived self-interests. Reward them for displacing responsibility to the Strong Man or rescue services and people will take greater risks than they would have, had all they been able to draw upon were their own resources. Violence works the same way. People use it all the time to reward themselves based upon their perceived self-interests.

And the Left are very adept at emotional violence and character assassination and doing injury to reputation as well as societal standing. When Obama’s feelings are hurt or he is made to feel insecure, you bet he’s going to go after you. But Obama decries physical violence of the US, on the other hand. And you know why, it’s cause he’s afraid of physical violence. He isn’t good at it. He’s good at backstabbing people via proxy, not even directly, but by proxy. He’s good at destroying people by getting documents leaked. He’s good at making friends with terrorists, but not the fervor to actually do any terrorism like Ayers did and still does at Chicago.

By: Ymarsakar

Ymarsakar — Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:29:51 +0000

”You can just call the Coast Guard.”

You can also call your Mama and Papa too. Which is what children do when they get into trouble. That automatically means people have abdicated personal responsibility and autonomy in return for ‘safety’, whatever that means in today’s world given modern threats.

I now eat all my meat practically burned
This wasn’t cause of some organic food or preparation thing was it?

By: JKB

JKB — Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:22:34 +0000

Two minutes is like 12 lifetimes in a gun fight. I haven’t seen any comment on the timing but I’d speculate the shooting of the four officers in Washington probably lasted less than 2 minutes and that is with one of them getting his hands on the shooter.
People in the developed world are to locked into the emergency services mindset and forget that you can get out of range either by distance or workload. I used to run research vessels. I’d stop someone from doing something dangerous or try to stop the recent heart attack from sailing, it was always the same. ”You can just call the Coast Guard.” Slowly, I’d get them to realize that we were 10 days from helo range. Or as the pilot of a small helo one ship carried when I stupidly asked him why they limited their range to 10 miles from the 10 kt ship said, “An hour is a long time to bleed.”

By: CollegeCon

CollegeCon — Tue, 08 Dec 2009 21:31:50 +0000

My little sister got E-Coli over the summer a few years ago, and it was a bit traumatizing for everyone. Needless to say food safety has become even more important now, which was difficult considering that the family was already in the dairy business!
Unfortunately, there really isn’t much that can be done about a long fire/ambulance run. Certainly having enough fire extinguishers and basic medication helps, but not in way a gun protects against home invasion.