Comments on: Another case of scientific fraud, this time involving costly pollution controls? http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/12/09/another-case-of-scientific-fraud-this-time-involving-costly-pollution-controls/ Conservatives deal with facts and reach conclusions; liberals have conclusions and sell them as facts. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:48:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: David Foster http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/12/09/another-case-of-scientific-fraud-this-time-involving-costly-pollution-controls/comment-page-1/#comment-83967 David Foster Wed, 09 Dec 2009 23:08:44 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=9970#comment-83967 In addition to the fraud angle" If these regulations inhibit the use of diesel engines for automobiles, then they will almost certainly result in additional oil consumption, since diesels are more efficient than gasoline engines. Did the regulators consider this offset? Also: I don't know if the regulations apply to railway locomotives (which are all diesel-powered except for the Northeast Corridor)...but if they do, they could have a severe negative impact on California's economy. A high % of the container freight arriving at Long Beach and other west coast ports goes on railcars for inland deliveries. You can't focus on optimizing one factor in isolation without causing serious problems with an overall system. In addition to the fraud angle” If these regulations inhibit the use of diesel engines for automobiles, then they will almost certainly result in additional oil consumption, since diesels are more efficient than gasoline engines. Did the regulators consider this offset?

Also: I don’t know if the regulations apply to railway locomotives (which are all diesel-powered except for the Northeast Corridor)…but if they do, they could have a severe negative impact on California’s economy. A high % of the container freight arriving at Long Beach and other west coast ports goes on railcars for inland deliveries.

You can’t focus on optimizing one factor in isolation without causing serious problems with an overall system.

]]> By: suek http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/12/09/another-case-of-scientific-fraud-this-time-involving-costly-pollution-controls/comment-page-1/#comment-83963 suek Wed, 09 Dec 2009 22:57:37 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=9970#comment-83963 Wonder if there is someone else who applied for his job who could sue for fraud - or something...!   I'm not sure _who_ they'd sue, but for the scientist at least. Wonder if there is someone else who applied for his job who could sue for fraud – or something…!
 
I’m not sure _who_ they’d sue, but for the scientist at least.

]]> By: Danny Lemieux http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/12/09/another-case-of-scientific-fraud-this-time-involving-costly-pollution-controls/comment-page-1/#comment-83959 Danny Lemieux Wed, 09 Dec 2009 21:35:05 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=9970#comment-83959 Stupid or corrupt, Earl? It's just that societal, government, academic and business standards all seem to be spiraling to a lowest common denominator that has yet to be established. This is what happens to societies de-moored from a Judeo-Christian morality and ethic with no standards of accountability. It exists because we (collectively) accept it because we delude ourselves that we aren't personally affected by what some guy in California gets away with. So, is this guy any worse than the other "scientists" and science czars that are running the country today. As a scientist, I am mortified at the tarnished brand of "science" today. Stupid or corrupt, Earl? It’s just that societal, government, academic and business standards all seem to be spiraling to a lowest common denominator that has yet to be established. This is what happens to societies de-moored from a Judeo-Christian morality and ethic with no standards of accountability. It exists because we (collectively) accept it because we delude ourselves that we aren’t personally affected by what some guy in California gets away with.
So, is this guy any worse than the other “scientists” and science czars that are running the country today. As a scientist, I am mortified at the tarnished brand of “science” today.

]]> By: Earl http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/12/09/another-case-of-scientific-fraud-this-time-involving-costly-pollution-controls/comment-page-1/#comment-83955 Earl Wed, 09 Dec 2009 21:11:56 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=9970#comment-83955 We've just had a stinging reminder that scientists are human beings, and can cheat if they think that winning on the issue is important enough to them. Yet, here's a guy who LIED about his credentials in order to get the job (apparently it was really important to him, so he cheated), and despite the fact that he's a human whose job requires him to do work that will influence the outcome of issues on which he may very well have an opinion....despite this, they keep the liar on the public payroll and risk the downside - that he'll lie about the results of his work in order to influence the process in the direction he prefers. Really stupid. We’ve just had a stinging reminder that scientists are human beings, and can cheat if they think that winning on the issue is important enough to them.
Yet, here’s a guy who LIED about his credentials in order to get the job (apparently it was really important to him, so he cheated), and despite the fact that he’s a human whose job requires him to do work that will influence the outcome of issues on which he may very well have an opinion….despite this, they keep the liar on the public payroll and risk the downside – that he’ll lie about the results of his work in order to influence the process in the direction he prefers.
Really stupid.

]]> By: Bookworm http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/12/09/another-case-of-scientific-fraud-this-time-involving-costly-pollution-controls/comment-page-1/#comment-83954 Bookworm Wed, 09 Dec 2009 21:06:57 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=9970#comment-83954 <p>I noticed that too.  It also seems as if the only punishment for fraud ab initio is a little salary decline, rather than a boot to the backside, along with a short, one way trip down the stairs and out the front door of his office building.</p> I noticed that too.  It also seems as if the only punishment for fraud ab initio is a little salary decline, rather than a boot to the backside, along with a short, one way trip down the stairs and out the front door of his office building.

]]> By: Earl http://www.bookwormroom.com/2009/12/09/another-case-of-scientific-fraud-this-time-involving-costly-pollution-controls/comment-page-1/#comment-83953 Earl Wed, 09 Dec 2009 20:55:34 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=9970#comment-83953 Despite misrepresenting himself, he's still getting almost $100,000.00 annually of taxpayer money. Despite misrepresenting himself, he’s still getting almost $100,000.00 annually of taxpayer money.

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