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	<title>Comments on: Right wing wackos misunderstand peaceful Muslims (I&#8217;m being sarcastic)</title>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 23:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;B&gt;Is there any hope for him.&lt;/b&gt;
 
 
Probably not. He&#039;d have to go through something like boot camp for the philosophically challenged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&lt;B&gt;Is there any hope for him.&lt;/b&gt;<br />
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Probably not. He&#8217;d have to go through something like boot camp for the philosophically challenged.</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 23:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;B&gt;Wahhabism and Salafism are the same.&lt;/b&gt;
 
 
That was what I was about to say.
 
Sufism is, in fact, the only segment that one might consider sane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&lt;B&gt;Wahhabism and Salafism are the same.&lt;/b&gt;<br />
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That was what I was about to say.<br />
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Sufism is, in fact, the only segment that one might consider sane.</p>
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		<title>By: Wolf Howling</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wolf Howling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comment, Mike.  Wahhabism and Salafism are the same.  Inside Saudi Arabia, you might here either term to describe their version of Islam.  Outside of Saudi Arabia, you will hear it described as Salafi - though that said, there are many other forms of Islam that go by other names, yet are becoming deeply infused with the Salafi dogma.  The Deobandi sect of Pakistan which gave rise to the Taliban is certainly one.  You can find a bit of the history - and how we got to this point - at &lt;a href=&quot;http://wolfhowling.blogspot.com/2007/11/reason-we-face-problem-of-radical-islam.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://wolfhowling.blogspot.com/2007/11/reason-we-face-problem-of-radical-islam.html&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comment, Mike.  Wahhabism and Salafism are the same.  Inside Saudi Arabia, you might here either term to describe their version of Islam.  Outside of Saudi Arabia, you will hear it described as Salafi &#8211; though that said, there are many other forms of Islam that go by other names, yet are becoming deeply infused with the Salafi dogma.  The Deobandi sect of Pakistan which gave rise to the Taliban is certainly one.  You can find a bit of the history &#8211; and how we got to this point &#8211; at <a href="http://wolfhowling.blogspot.com/2007/11/reason-we-face-problem-of-radical-islam.html" rel="nofollow">http://wolfhowling.blogspot.com/2007/11/reason-we-face-problem-of-radical-islam.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mike Devx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Devx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you , Wolf Howling.
 
I&#039;ve been stating for awhile here in Book&#039;s domain that I believe we should confront - with every possible tool in our arsenal - Wahabbi Islam, which I considered to be the worst current expression of Islam.   I focused on that because I have been aware that Saudi Arabia is promoting it very aggressively and with millions upon millions of dollars, across the entire globe.    Let&#039;s not attack all of Islam - just the worst of it, the part that is breeding jihadism, violence, terror and murder.  I&#039;d thought, take care of Wahabbism, and you&#039;ve cut the head off of the dragon.
 
In particular I want to ensure that those Muslims living in Western societies have a chance to escape the shadow of resurgent jihadism.  Right now, even in the West they are under the Shadow, under threat within their own Western communities.  Even if they wanted to be &quot;moderate&quot; - which they may not - they cannot be moderate, because the jihadists&#039; imams control the religious conversation even in the West, aided and abetted - inconceivably! - by our own Western governments.
 
Thanks to your post above, I will investigate Salafism, to see if my focus on Wahabbi Islam is misdirected.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you , Wolf Howling.<br />
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I&#8217;ve been stating for awhile here in Book&#8217;s domain that I believe we should confront &#8211; with every possible tool in our arsenal &#8211; Wahabbi Islam, which I considered to be the worst current expression of Islam.   I focused on that because I have been aware that Saudi Arabia is promoting it very aggressively and with millions upon millions of dollars, across the entire globe.    Let&#8217;s not attack all of Islam &#8211; just the worst of it, the part that is breeding jihadism, violence, terror and murder.  I&#8217;d thought, take care of Wahabbism, and you&#8217;ve cut the head off of the dragon.<br />
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In particular I want to ensure that those Muslims living in Western societies have a chance to escape the shadow of resurgent jihadism.  Right now, even in the West they are under the Shadow, under threat within their own Western communities.  Even if they wanted to be &#8220;moderate&#8221; &#8211; which they may not &#8211; they cannot be moderate, because the jihadists&#8217; imams control the religious conversation even in the West, aided and abetted &#8211; inconceivably! &#8211; by our own Western governments.<br />
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Thanks to your post above, I will investigate Salafism, to see if my focus on Wahabbi Islam is misdirected.<br />
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		<title>By: Wolf Howling</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wolf Howling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;There was an essay by Tawfiq Hamid some time ago that really should be a must read by everyone in the West - and particularly those on the left who are finally reaching a level of surprise that all the airplane incidents are perpetrated by Muslims.

Here is Mr. Hamid&#039;s opening paragraph:
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&quot;What occupies the mind of a jihad-driven Muslim? How is such fervor planted in young and impressionable believers? Where does it originate? How did I - once an innocent child who grew up in a liberal, moderate and educated household - find myself a member of a radical Islamic group? These questions go to the root of Islamic violence and must be addressed if free societies are to combat radical Islam. To further this aim, I will explore the psychological development of a jihadi&#039;s mind through my own firsthand experience as a former member of a Muslim terrorist organization.&quot;

&lt;em&gt;And here, many paragraphs later, are his concluding paragraphs:
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&quot;Salafi indoctrination operates through written words and careful coaching. It is enormously seductive. It rapidly changed me into a jihadi. Salafi sacred texts exert a powerful influence on millions of Muslim followers throughout the world, and terrorism is only one symptom of the Salafi disease. Salafi doctrine, which is at the root of the West&#039;s confrontation with Islamism, poses an existential threat to us all - including Muslims.

Indeed, Salafism robs young Muslims of their soul, it turns Western communities against them, and it can end in civil war as Muslims attempt to implement shari&#039;a in their host countries. A peaceful interpretation of Islam is possible, but the Salafi establishment is currently blocking moderate theological reform. The civilized world ought to recognize the immense danger that Salafi Islam poses; it must become informed, courageous and united if it is to protect both a generation of young Muslims and the rest of humanity from the disastrous consequences of this militant ideology.&quot;

&lt;em&gt;The answers to all the questions about why and what we face are in between those paragrapshs.&lt;/em&gt;   &lt;a href=&quot;http://wolfhowling.blogspot.com/2008/01/civilized-world-ought-to-recognize.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://wolfhowling.blogspot.com/2008/01/civilized-world-ought-to-recognize.html&lt;/a&gt; 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>There was an essay by Tawfiq Hamid some time ago that really should be a must read by everyone in the West &#8211; and particularly those on the left who are finally reaching a level of surprise that all the airplane incidents are perpetrated by Muslims.</p>
<p>Here is Mr. Hamid&#8217;s opening paragraph:<br />
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&#8220;What occupies the mind of a jihad-driven Muslim? How is such fervor planted in young and impressionable believers? Where does it originate? How did I &#8211; once an innocent child who grew up in a liberal, moderate and educated household &#8211; find myself a member of a radical Islamic group? These questions go to the root of Islamic violence and must be addressed if free societies are to combat radical Islam. To further this aim, I will explore the psychological development of a jihadi&#8217;s mind through my own firsthand experience as a former member of a Muslim terrorist organization.&#8221;</p>
<p><em>And here, many paragraphs later, are his concluding paragraphs:<br />
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&#8220;Salafi indoctrination operates through written words and careful coaching. It is enormously seductive. It rapidly changed me into a jihadi. Salafi sacred texts exert a powerful influence on millions of Muslim followers throughout the world, and terrorism is only one symptom of the Salafi disease. Salafi doctrine, which is at the root of the West&#8217;s confrontation with Islamism, poses an existential threat to us all &#8211; including Muslims.</p>
<p>Indeed, Salafism robs young Muslims of their soul, it turns Western communities against them, and it can end in civil war as Muslims attempt to implement shari&#8217;a in their host countries. A peaceful interpretation of Islam is possible, but the Salafi establishment is currently blocking moderate theological reform. The civilized world ought to recognize the immense danger that Salafi Islam poses; it must become informed, courageous and united if it is to protect both a generation of young Muslims and the rest of humanity from the disastrous consequences of this militant ideology.&#8221;</p>
<p><em>The answers to all the questions about why and what we face are in between those paragrapshs.</em>   <a href="http://wolfhowling.blogspot.com/2008/01/civilized-world-ought-to-recognize.html" rel="nofollow">http://wolfhowling.blogspot.com/2008/01/civilized-world-ought-to-recognize.html</a> <br />
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		<title>By: Bookworm Room &#187; Yet another Tom Lehrer song proves to be prescient</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bookworm Room &#187; Yet another Tom Lehrer song proves to be prescient</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 06:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] blogged the other day that Tom Lehrer&#8217;s MLF Lullaby, although about Germany, worked well with Islam in the starring [...]</description>
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		<title>By: SADIE</title>
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		<dc:creator>SADIE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 22:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahh..I knew who would pick up on the FOUR comment ; )
I think he&#039;s working through his angst by hitting so many white ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh..I knew who would pick up on the FOUR comment ; )<br />
I think he&#8217;s working through his angst by hitting so many white ones.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Martel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Martel</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;&quot;We’re bound to get hit from one his stray balls.&quot;
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=SIGH= Would that our Nancy Boy in Chief had even one to spare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>&#8220;We’re bound to get hit from one his stray balls.&#8221;<br />
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=SIGH= Would that our Nancy Boy in Chief had even one to spare.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Links to Visit &#8211; 12/28/09 NoisyRoom.net: Where liberty dwells, there is my country&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Links to Visit &#8211; 12/28/09 NoisyRoom.net: Where liberty dwells, there is my country&#8230;</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Bookworm Room &#8211; Right wing wackos misunderstand peaceful Muslims (I’m being sarcastic) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: BrianE</title>
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		<dc:creator>BrianE</dc:creator>
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		<description>suek,

Thanks for the link to that blog. Very good writing.


Sadie,
FOUR, but I suspect we&#039;re more like the kid in this video:


&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVAD8Zl5ngg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVAD8Zl5ngg&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>suek,</p>
<p>Thanks for the link to that blog. Very good writing.</p>
<p>Sadie,<br />
FOUR, but I suspect we&#8217;re more like the kid in this video:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVAD8Zl5ngg" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVAD8Zl5ngg</a></p>
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