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		<title>By: &#187; Links to Visit &#8211; 01/02/2010 NoisyRoom.net: Where liberty dwells, there is my country&#8230;</title>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;2009 BLOG AWARDS - Congratulations BOOK!&lt;/strong&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>2009 BLOG AWARDS &#8211; Congratulations BOOK!</strong><br />
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		<title>By: BrianE</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 19:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s an article at American Thinker addressing the same issues where the economy is headed.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/01/2010_will_be_worse.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/01/2010_will_be_worse.html&lt;/a&gt;


Not a pretty way to start off the year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s an article at American Thinker addressing the same issues where the economy is headed.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/01/2010_will_be_worse.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/01/2010_will_be_worse.html</a></p>
<p>Not a pretty way to start off the year.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 18:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More from the Bloomberg article on HR4173:


&lt;em&gt;-- Since Congress isn’t cutting jobs, why not add a few more. The bill calls for more than a dozen agencies to create a position called “Director of Minority and Women Inclusion.” People in these new posts will be presidential appointees. I thought too-big-to-fail banks were the pressing issue. Turns out it’s diversity, and patronage. &lt;/em&gt;
&lt;em&gt;-- Not that the House is entirely sure of what the issues are, at least judging by the two dozen or so studies the bill authorizes. About a quarter of them relate to credit-rating companies, an area in which the legislation falls short of meaningful change. Sadly, these studies don’t tackle tough questions like whether we should just do away with ratings altogether. Here’s a tip: Do the studies, then write the legislation.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More from the Bloomberg article on HR4173:</p>
<p><em>&#8211; Since Congress isn’t cutting jobs, why not add a few more. The bill calls for more than a dozen agencies to create a position called “Director of Minority and Women Inclusion.” People in these new posts will be presidential appointees. I thought too-big-to-fail banks were the pressing issue. Turns out it’s diversity, and patronage. </em><br />
<em>&#8211; Not that the House is entirely sure of what the issues are, at least judging by the two dozen or so studies the bill authorizes. About a quarter of them relate to credit-rating companies, an area in which the legislation falls short of meaningful change. Sadly, these studies don’t tackle tough questions like whether we should just do away with ratings altogether. Here’s a tip: Do the studies, then write the legislation.</em></p>
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		<title>By: BrianE</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 18:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, Barney Frank&#039;s financial reform legislation alluded to by Vox, HR4173 does include a $4 trillion bailout provision for the next round of bankruptcies.


From Bloomberg.com commentary by Bill Reilly:
Here are some of the nuggets I gleaned from days spent reading Frank’s handiwork:
-- For all its heft, the bill doesn’t once mention the words “too-big-to-fail,” the main issue confronting the financial system. Admitting you have a problem, as any 12- stepper knows, is the crucial first step toward recovery.
-- Instead, it supports the biggest banks. It authorizes &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.federalreserve.gov&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Federal Reserve&lt;/a&gt; banks to provide as much as $4 trillion in emergency funding the next time Wall Street crashes. So much for “no-more-bailouts” talk. That is more than twice what the Fed pumped into markets this time around. The size of the fund makes the bribes in the Senate’s health-care bill look minuscule.
-- Oh, hold on, the Federal Reserve and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.treasury.gov&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Treasury&lt;/a&gt; Secretary can’t authorize these funds unless “there is at least a 99 percent likelihood that all funds and interest will be paid back.” Too bad the same models used to foresee the housing &lt;a href=&quot;/apps/quote?ticker=SPCS20%3AIND&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;meltdown&lt;/a&gt; probably will be used to predict this likelihood as well. 


&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&amp;sid=a48c8UpUMxKQ&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&amp;sid=a48c8UpUMxKQ&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, Barney Frank&#8217;s financial reform legislation alluded to by Vox, HR4173 does include a $4 trillion bailout provision for the next round of bankruptcies.</p>
<p>From Bloomberg.com commentary by Bill Reilly:<br />
Here are some of the nuggets I gleaned from days spent reading Frank’s handiwork:<br />
&#8211; For all its heft, the bill doesn’t once mention the words “too-big-to-fail,” the main issue confronting the financial system. Admitting you have a problem, as any 12- stepper knows, is the crucial first step toward recovery.<br />
&#8211; Instead, it supports the biggest banks. It authorizes <a href="http://www.federalreserve.gov" rel="nofollow">Federal Reserve</a> banks to provide as much as $4 trillion in emergency funding the next time Wall Street crashes. So much for “no-more-bailouts” talk. That is more than twice what the Fed pumped into markets this time around. The size of the fund makes the bribes in the Senate’s health-care bill look minuscule.<br />
&#8211; Oh, hold on, the Federal Reserve and <a href="http://www.treasury.gov" rel="nofollow">Treasury</a> Secretary can’t authorize these funds unless “there is at least a 99 percent likelihood that all funds and interest will be paid back.” Too bad the same models used to foresee the housing <a href="/apps/quote?ticker=SPCS20%3AIND" rel="nofollow">meltdown</a> probably will be used to predict this likelihood as well. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&amp;sid=a48c8UpUMxKQ" rel="nofollow">http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&#038;sid=a48c8UpUMxKQ</a></p>
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		<dc:creator>BrianE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 18:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So much for a Happy New Year!


The question for 2010 is whether the left&#039;s assault on the constitution will accelerate. One would think they would tire at some point.


Spiff580 asked whether our current situation will be worse than those under Carter. At that time I was running a family store and it was a nightmare pricing merchandise to keep up with inflation. Every week new merchandise would come in at a higher price.


In the short term though, we are still in the contracting. 

Here&#039;s some information that should give everyone some food for thought:&lt;em&gt;

I have to confess that when the third quarter report came out a few weeks ago, I was surprised it did not show more contraction in the third quarter; total credit market debt only declined a further $113 billion from the revised Q1 2009 peak of $52.9 trillion.  The net contraction to date has only been 0.53%, which seemed weirdly small when the 8.7% contraction in commercial bank loans over the same period was taken into account.

But a look at the various credit sectors usefully clarifies this apparent dichotomy.  As the chart below shows, household debt reached its peak in the third quarter of 2008 and is down 1.75% since then.  The financial sector began reducing its outstanding debt a quarter later than the households, but is deleveraging much faster as its debt has fallen 5.93% from the Q408 peak.  Corporate debt has remained essentially flat since 2008, but the Federal government has, for the time being, been able to fill in the entire credit gap by increasing its outstanding debt &lt;strong&gt;by nearly one-third, 30.1%, in the four quarters since Q308&lt;/strong&gt;!  State and local government debt has also increased, but by close to an order of magnitude less at 3.25%.  So, the reason we have not yet seen any significant effects of the debt-deleveraging in the household (-$242.8 billion) and financial (-$873.7 billion) sectors in the wider economy is because the Federal government has taken on an additional $1,743.4 billion of debt plus another $72.4 billion from the state and local governments to counter that contraction of credit.

&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;em&gt;So, the questions raised by this analysis are:  a) can the various levels of government continue to increase their outstanding debts faster than household, corporate, and financial debts decline, b) how long can the various levels of government continue to increase their debts, c) when will household, corporate, and financial debt stop contracting?  As of today, January 1st, 2010, the answers appear to be: a) No, the disparity of debt levels renders this impractical, if not impossible, especially since the early data indicates that household and financial debt is still declining. b) Probably not beyond the second quarter of 2010.  State and local tax revenues fell precipitously in 2009, many state and local governments are already on the verge of bankruptcy and the White House is already talking about attempting to reduce the 2010 deficit. c) given the growing number of mortgage and credit card payments reaching 60 and 90 days late, there is no sign of this happening in 2010.  In fact, much of the 2009 contraction that should have happened due to foreclosures and defaults has not yet been recorded on the books thanks to the extend-and-pretend policy presently in place.

The White House and the Federal Reserve are gambling that the contraction of household and financial sector debt will end before time runs out on their ability to increase Federal debt enough to compensate for that contraction.  But despite a panoply of credit-creation programs, changes to accounting laws, and regulatory easing, they are running out of time and there are still no signs of any further appetite for debt on the part of consumers or financial institutions.  The brief uptick in total bank loans from the middle of October to the middle of November has already given back its gains; TOTLL was still down 8.01% as of the most recent report on December 16th.  Therefore, I conclude that the White House already knows it lost its credit gamble, which is why it is now preparing &lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&amp;sid=a48c8UpUMxKQ&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;the $4 trillion SuperTARP bill&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt; known as HR 4173.


&lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://voxday.blogspot.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;http://voxday.blogspot.com/&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;


Vox predicts a second Great Depression and has recently written a book about it.


Given the amount of government intervention for the last 40 years, one would think it won&#039;t be worse. But possibly we have reached the limits of government interventions, and a necessary contraction will occur to restore balance.


The other scenario leads us to hyper-inflation due to the government printing presses running 24/7.


Whether we will be able to match Zimbabwe&#039;s 2,300,000% annual inflation is doubtful. Zimbabwe abandoned it&#039;s currency last year, and I understand you can pick up $1,000,000,000 notes on e-bay. 


I guess it&#039;s something to shoot for.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So much for a Happy New Year!</p>
<p>The question for 2010 is whether the left&#8217;s assault on the constitution will accelerate. One would think they would tire at some point.</p>
<p>Spiff580 asked whether our current situation will be worse than those under Carter. At that time I was running a family store and it was a nightmare pricing merchandise to keep up with inflation. Every week new merchandise would come in at a higher price.</p>
<p>In the short term though, we are still in the contracting. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s some information that should give everyone some food for thought:<em></p>
<p>I have to confess that when the third quarter report came out a few weeks ago, I was surprised it did not show more contraction in the third quarter; total credit market debt only declined a further $113 billion from the revised Q1 2009 peak of $52.9 trillion.  The net contraction to date has only been 0.53%, which seemed weirdly small when the 8.7% contraction in commercial bank loans over the same period was taken into account.</p>
<p>But a look at the various credit sectors usefully clarifies this apparent dichotomy.  As the chart below shows, household debt reached its peak in the third quarter of 2008 and is down 1.75% since then.  The financial sector began reducing its outstanding debt a quarter later than the households, but is deleveraging much faster as its debt has fallen 5.93% from the Q408 peak.  Corporate debt has remained essentially flat since 2008, but the Federal government has, for the time being, been able to fill in the entire credit gap by increasing its outstanding debt <strong>by nearly one-third, 30.1%, in the four quarters since Q308</strong>!  State and local government debt has also increased, but by close to an order of magnitude less at 3.25%.  So, the reason we have not yet seen any significant effects of the debt-deleveraging in the household (-$242.8 billion) and financial (-$873.7 billion) sectors in the wider economy is because the Federal government has taken on an additional $1,743.4 billion of debt plus another $72.4 billion from the state and local governments to counter that contraction of credit.</p>
<p></em><br />
<em>So, the questions raised by this analysis are:  a) can the various levels of government continue to increase their outstanding debts faster than household, corporate, and financial debts decline, b) how long can the various levels of government continue to increase their debts, c) when will household, corporate, and financial debt stop contracting?  As of today, January 1st, 2010, the answers appear to be: a) No, the disparity of debt levels renders this impractical, if not impossible, especially since the early data indicates that household and financial debt is still declining. b) Probably not beyond the second quarter of 2010.  State and local tax revenues fell precipitously in 2009, many state and local governments are already on the verge of bankruptcy and the White House is already talking about attempting to reduce the 2010 deficit. c) given the growing number of mortgage and credit card payments reaching 60 and 90 days late, there is no sign of this happening in 2010.  In fact, much of the 2009 contraction that should have happened due to foreclosures and defaults has not yet been recorded on the books thanks to the extend-and-pretend policy presently in place.</p>
<p>The White House and the Federal Reserve are gambling that the contraction of household and financial sector debt will end before time runs out on their ability to increase Federal debt enough to compensate for that contraction.  But despite a panoply of credit-creation programs, changes to accounting laws, and regulatory easing, they are running out of time and there are still no signs of any further appetite for debt on the part of consumers or financial institutions.  The brief uptick in total bank loans from the middle of October to the middle of November has already given back its gains; TOTLL was still down 8.01% as of the most recent report on December 16th.  Therefore, I conclude that the White House already knows it lost its credit gamble, which is why it is now preparing </em><a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&amp;sid=a48c8UpUMxKQ" rel="nofollow"><em>the $4 trillion SuperTARP bill</em></a><em> known as HR 4173.</p>
<p></em><a href="http://voxday.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow"><em><a href="http://voxday.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://voxday.blogspot.com/</a></em></a></p>
<p>Vox predicts a second Great Depression and has recently written a book about it.</p>
<p>Given the amount of government intervention for the last 40 years, one would think it won&#8217;t be worse. But possibly we have reached the limits of government interventions, and a necessary contraction will occur to restore balance.</p>
<p>The other scenario leads us to hyper-inflation due to the government printing presses running 24/7.</p>
<p>Whether we will be able to match Zimbabwe&#8217;s 2,300,000% annual inflation is doubtful. Zimbabwe abandoned it&#8217;s currency last year, and I understand you can pick up $1,000,000,000 notes on e-bay. </p>
<p>I guess it&#8217;s something to shoot for.</p>
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