Comments on: The need for an honest, 21st century debate about abortion *UPDATE* http://www.bookwormroom.com/2010/01/11/the-need-for-an-honest-21st-century-debate-about-abortion/ Conservatives deal with facts and reach conclusions; liberals have conclusions and sell them as facts. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 06:19:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Vera Drake | Abortion in Film http://www.bookwormroom.com/2010/01/11/the-need-for-an-honest-21st-century-debate-about-abortion/comment-page-1/#comment-96566 Vera Drake | Abortion in Film Fri, 14 May 2010 01:41:12 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=10303#comment-96566 [...] from Bookworm Room Interestingly, one of the things you’ll notice about pro-choice advocacy (usually in movies) is that it roots its emotional arguments in the past, when women couldn’t stop pregnancies, when they died far too easily, and when an out-of-wedlock pregnancy was the end of the world. Think back, for example, to 2004, when the movie Vera Drake opened to immense critical approval, was nominated for three Oscars, and won a whole slew of other awards. The movie tells the story of the saintlike Vera Drake, a loving wife and mother in the 1950s, who also provides pathetically poor, distressed women with abortions. The women getting abortions are all desperately in need of them — a mother of seven children, a rape victim, an isolated immigrant, a wife who had an affair while her husband was in Korea, etc. The movie also shows a rich girl getting away with a medical abortion, so as to emphasize the Marxist theory that the rich get richer and the poor get children. The dramatic tension in the movie comes about because Vera Drake is arrested and prosecuted for this then-illegal act. [...] [...] from Bookworm Room Interestingly, one of the things you’ll notice about pro-choice advocacy (usually in movies) is that it roots its emotional arguments in the past, when women couldn’t stop pregnancies, when they died far too easily, and when an out-of-wedlock pregnancy was the end of the world. Think back, for example, to 2004, when the movie Vera Drake opened to immense critical approval, was nominated for three Oscars, and won a whole slew of other awards. The movie tells the story of the saintlike Vera Drake, a loving wife and mother in the 1950s, who also provides pathetically poor, distressed women with abortions. The women getting abortions are all desperately in need of them — a mother of seven children, a rape victim, an isolated immigrant, a wife who had an affair while her husband was in Korea, etc. The movie also shows a rich girl getting away with a medical abortion, so as to emphasize the Marxist theory that the rich get richer and the poor get children. The dramatic tension in the movie comes about because Vera Drake is arrested and prosecuted for this then-illegal act. [...]

]]> By: Bookworm Room » The Left, trying to deconstruct the Tebow ad, shows that logic is not a Leftist gift *UPDATED* http://www.bookwormroom.com/2010/01/11/the-need-for-an-honest-21st-century-debate-about-abortion/comment-page-1/#comment-89856 Bookworm Room » The Left, trying to deconstruct the Tebow ad, shows that logic is not a Leftist gift *UPDATED* Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:21:12 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=10303#comment-89856 [...] I commented earlier that Focus on the Family handled the whole Tebow ad brilliantly, by letting the Left get hysterical in advance, only to be confronted by a completely innocuous ad in which Pam Tebow talks about times when she worried about Tim’s life.  With its preemptive frothing, the Left managed to show anyone who was paying attention that they care, not about choices (because Pam Tebow made a choice), but about preserving abortion in all forms, at all costs, under all circumstances.  (For my by-no-means doctrinaire views on the subject, see here.) [...] [...] I commented earlier that Focus on the Family handled the whole Tebow ad brilliantly, by letting the Left get hysterical in advance, only to be confronted by a completely innocuous ad in which Pam Tebow talks about times when she worried about Tim’s life.  With its preemptive frothing, the Left managed to show anyone who was paying attention that they care, not about choices (because Pam Tebow made a choice), but about preserving abortion in all forms, at all costs, under all circumstances.  (For my by-no-means doctrinaire views on the subject, see here.) [...]

]]> By: Bookworm Room » Americans cool on abortion, appropriately given the societal damage it causes and reflects http://www.bookwormroom.com/2010/01/11/the-need-for-an-honest-21st-century-debate-about-abortion/comment-page-1/#comment-87397 Bookworm Room » Americans cool on abortion, appropriately given the societal damage it causes and reflects Wed, 27 Jan 2010 22:56:09 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=10303#comment-87397 [...] My views on abortion have changed mightily over the years.  The selfish, immature side of me still longs for a pro-choice label, but the mature, moral side of me has concluded that, subject to a few exceptions, pro-Life is the way to go.  I won’t expand on that right now, but you can see more on my views here. [...] [...] My views on abortion have changed mightily over the years.  The selfish, immature side of me still longs for a pro-choice label, but the mature, moral side of me has concluded that, subject to a few exceptions, pro-Life is the way to go.  I won’t expand on that right now, but you can see more on my views here. [...]

]]> By: The Razor » Blog Archive » The Council Has Spoken: January 15, 2010 http://www.bookwormroom.com/2010/01/11/the-need-for-an-honest-21st-century-debate-about-abortion/comment-page-1/#comment-86870 The Razor » Blog Archive » The Council Has Spoken: January 15, 2010 Mon, 25 Jan 2010 17:43:21 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=10303#comment-86870 [...] Council: Bookworm Room - The need for an honest, 21st century debate about abortion [...] [...] Council: Bookworm Room – The need for an honest, 21st century debate about abortion [...]

]]> By: Soccer Dad http://www.bookwormroom.com/2010/01/11/the-need-for-an-honest-21st-century-debate-about-abortion/comment-page-1/#comment-86380 Soccer Dad Thu, 21 Jan 2010 11:33:34 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=10303#comment-86380 <strong>Council speak 01/21/10...</strong> I was away and didn't have time to tend to my Watcher's council duties for two weeks. So first we have this past week's winners. Council Submissions First place with 2 2/3 points! - Bookworm Room - The need for an honest, 21st century debate about a... Council speak 01/21/10…

I was away and didn’t have time to tend to my Watcher’s council duties for two weeks. So first we have this past week’s winners. Council Submissions First place with 2 2/3 points! – Bookworm Room – The need for an honest, 21st century debate about a…

]]> By: Rhymes With Right http://www.bookwormroom.com/2010/01/11/the-need-for-an-honest-21st-century-debate-about-abortion/comment-page-1/#comment-86304 Rhymes With Right Wed, 20 Jan 2010 12:12:26 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=10303#comment-86304 <strong>Watcher's Council Results...</strong> Speaking of the vox populi, here is how the Watcher's Council voted last week. Council Submissions First place with 2 2/3 points! – Bookworm Room - The need for an honest, 21st century debate about abortion Second place with 2...... Watcher’s Council Results…

Speaking of the vox populi, here is how the Watcher’s Council voted last week. Council Submissions First place with 2 2/3 points! – Bookworm Room – The need for an honest, 21st century debate about abortion Second place with 2……

]]> By: The Council Has Spoken! http://www.bookwormroom.com/2010/01/11/the-need-for-an-honest-21st-century-debate-about-abortion/comment-page-1/#comment-86158 The Council Has Spoken! Sun, 17 Jan 2010 16:40:09 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=10303#comment-86158 [...] has announced its winners for the past week. This week the winner in the Council post category was Bookworm Room’s “The need for an honest, 21st century debate about abortion”for which I voted. Second place [...] [...] has announced its winners for the past week. This week the winner in the Council post category was Bookworm Room’s “The need for an honest, 21st century debate about abortion”for which I voted. Second place [...]

]]> By: The Colossus of Rhodey http://www.bookwormroom.com/2010/01/11/the-need-for-an-honest-21st-century-debate-about-abortion/comment-page-1/#comment-86100 The Colossus of Rhodey Sat, 16 Jan 2010 13:35:39 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=10303#comment-86100 <strong>Watcher's Council winners...</strong> First place in the Council category was Bookworm Room with The need for an honest, 21st century debate about abortion. First place in the non-Council category was American Thinker/Rabbi Aryeh Spero with President Obama must choose sides. Full results a... Watcher’s Council winners…

First place in the Council category was Bookworm Room with The need for an honest, 21st century debate about abortion. First place in the non-Council category was American Thinker/Rabbi Aryeh Spero with President Obama must choose sides. Full results a…

]]> By: Watcher of Weasels » Watcher’s Council Winners – Watching The Meltdown Commence http://www.bookwormroom.com/2010/01/11/the-need-for-an-honest-21st-century-debate-about-abortion/comment-page-1/#comment-86069 Watcher of Weasels » Watcher’s Council Winners – Watching The Meltdown Commence Fri, 15 Jan 2010 18:17:58 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=10303#comment-86069 [...] category, the winner this week was Bookworm Room with her fascinating take on the abortion issue, The need for an honest, 21st century debate about abortion : I dreamed last night about the first ultrasound I had when I was pregnant with my daughter. I was [...] [...] category, the winner this week was Bookworm Room with her fascinating take on the abortion issue, The need for an honest, 21st century debate about abortion : I dreamed last night about the first ultrasound I had when I was pregnant with my daughter. I was [...]

]]> By: The Colossus of Rhodey http://www.bookwormroom.com/2010/01/11/the-need-for-an-honest-21st-century-debate-about-abortion/comment-page-1/#comment-86002 The Colossus of Rhodey Thu, 14 Jan 2010 00:10:25 +0000 http://www.bookwormroom.com/?p=10303#comment-86002 <strong>Watcher's Council nominations...</strong> * Wolf Howling - National Security At The End Of Obama’s First Year * Joshuapundit - It Begins: Obama Threatens Aid Cutoffs For Israel * Rhymes With Right - On The Left-Wing Freak-Out Over Brit Hume’s Public Christianity *...... Watcher’s Council nominations…

* Wolf Howling – National Security At The End Of Obama’s First Year * Joshuapundit – It Begins: Obama Threatens Aid Cutoffs For Israel * Rhymes With Right – On The Left-Wing Freak-Out Over Brit Hume’s Public Christianity *……

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