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		<title>By: suek</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2010/03/21/the-die-is-cast-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-93533</link>
		<dc:creator>suek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 01:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It doesn&#039;t affect us...yet.  We&#039;re too small to be directly affected, but our vendors?  that&#039;s a different story.  And if their prices increase, so will ours.  And most likely, _that_ will affect us.
Caterpillar announced last week that the bill would increase their employee costs by $100 million the first year.  I don&#039;t know if that&#039;s a first year but after that it drops significantly, or just that it&#039;s the first year and after that we don&#039;t know what happens.
 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t affect us&#8230;yet.  We&#8217;re too small to be directly affected, but our vendors?  that&#8217;s a different story.  And if their prices increase, so will ours.  And most likely, _that_ will affect us.<br />
Caterpillar announced last week that the bill would increase their employee costs by $100 million the first year.  I don&#8217;t know if that&#8217;s a first year but after that it drops significantly, or just that it&#8217;s the first year and after that we don&#8217;t know what happens.<br />
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		<title>By: SADIE</title>
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		<dc:creator>SADIE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 00:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[suek
I thought of you when I read this. I don&#039;t know how many employees you have and the link may be of interest to you and just about everybody else in this salon and beyond.

Some 77,000 businesses in the U.S. have 50 to 200 workers that could face the $2,000-per-employee tax penalty. An additional 116,000 businesses have 35 to 49 workers.
 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=528198&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=528198&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=528198&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>suek<br />
I thought of you when I read this. I don&#8217;t know how many employees you have and the link may be of interest to you and just about everybody else in this salon and beyond.</p>
<p>Some 77,000 businesses in the U.S. have 50 to 200 workers that could face the $2,000-per-employee tax penalty. An additional 116,000 businesses have 35 to 49 workers.<br />
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<a href="http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=528198" rel="nofollow">http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=528198</a></p>
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		<title>By: SADIE</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2010/03/21/the-die-is-cast-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-93525</link>
		<dc:creator>SADIE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 00:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The absence of Holder before the Senate Judiciary Committee is raising questions and comments. The DoJ  is having trouble locating the 300 terrorists tried in civil court (they&#039;re checking on the matter). Indecision and confusion or what the kids call  a &#039;duh&#039; moment reigns.

Ralph Kramden - start your engine!

The rest here.


&lt;a href=&quot;http://hotair.com/archives/2010/03/23/why-is-holder-appearance-to-congress-delayed/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://hotair.com/archives/2010/03/23/why-is-holder-appearance-to-congress-delayed/&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The absence of Holder before the Senate Judiciary Committee is raising questions and comments. The DoJ  is having trouble locating the 300 terrorists tried in civil court (they&#8217;re checking on the matter). Indecision and confusion or what the kids call  a &#8216;duh&#8217; moment reigns.</p>
<p>Ralph Kramden &#8211; start your engine!</p>
<p>The rest here.</p>
<p><a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2010/03/23/why-is-holder-appearance-to-congress-delayed/" rel="nofollow">http://hotair.com/archives/2010/03/23/why-is-holder-appearance-to-congress-delayed/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 16:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t worry about the dupes.
 
&quot; insurance companies cut people’s insurance  off at will&quot;
 
Ask him why that isn&#039;t the case for car insurance, life insurance, fire insurance. If this wasn&#039;t an issue after Katrina, why is healthcare an issue now.
 
He won&#039;t be able to answer correctly, which is that Unions pushed through a propagandized bill requiring businesses to negotiate health insurance between employees and insurance providers. Thus insurance can cut off people because those people are not directly contracted like other insurances.
 
&quot;because 45,000 people are uninsured&quot;
 
Millions of able bodied men and women are also not drafted into the US military. Why is it suddenly a problem what people choose to do with their life, when Emergency Decrees are often illegitimate justifications to grab power.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t worry about the dupes.<br />
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&#8221; insurance companies cut people’s insurance  off at will&#8221;<br />
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Ask him why that isn&#8217;t the case for car insurance, life insurance, fire insurance. If this wasn&#8217;t an issue after Katrina, why is healthcare an issue now.<br />
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He won&#8217;t be able to answer correctly, which is that Unions pushed through a propagandized bill requiring businesses to negotiate health insurance between employees and insurance providers. Thus insurance can cut off people because those people are not directly contracted like other insurances.<br />
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&#8220;because 45,000 people are uninsured&#8221;<br />
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Millions of able bodied men and women are also not drafted into the US military. Why is it suddenly a problem what people choose to do with their life, when Emergency Decrees are often illegitimate justifications to grab power.<br />
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		<title>By: suek</title>
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		<dc:creator>suek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 15:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Marguerite...
 
I have a different problem.  Our &quot;young friend&quot; (easier than the long story) has made terrible choices in the men she dates.  She finally has connected with someone who is &quot;normal&quot;.  An average seeming guy, one who has served in the military, is now retired with disability due to shrapnel remaining in his head.  So...she brings him home, and he says he&#039;s &quot;not unemployed&quot;, he&#039;s &quot;retired&quot;.  But in spite of _not_ being unemployed, he&#039;s still going back to school.  OK.  What is he preparing for?  Teaching.  Good.  What subject??  History.  Political science.  Social science.  Wow, says I...you must find the present debate and political shenanigans really interesting (running on Fox news as we discuss).  What debate and political shenanigans??? says he.  The Health Care bill.  Well, says he, I&#039;m a conservative,  and watch Fox news.  And then he tells me he thinks the bill should pass, because 45,000 people are uninsured and can&#039;t get health care and the insurance companies cut people&#039;s insurance  off at will .... and so on right down the leftist party line.    What about the Constitution, says I.  It&#039;s in there...says he.  Where?  you know...that bit about &quot;the general welfare&quot;....
 
Ok...I&#039;m done.  Is he stupid?  Ignorant?  Merely told me he was conservative because our &quot;young friend&quot;  &quot;warned&quot; him about me?
In a sense, I don&#039;t care what he believes except for a couple of things:  this young man expects to be teaching History in high school; he says he&#039;s conservative and spouts the leftist line, and lastly...he seemed so _normal_!  I thought _maybe_ she&#039;d found a possible...but ...
 
Is he just stupid????  What a disappointment that would be!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marguerite&#8230;<br />
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I have a different problem.  Our &#8220;young friend&#8221; (easier than the long story) has made terrible choices in the men she dates.  She finally has connected with someone who is &#8220;normal&#8221;.  An average seeming guy, one who has served in the military, is now retired with disability due to shrapnel remaining in his head.  So&#8230;she brings him home, and he says he&#8217;s &#8220;not unemployed&#8221;, he&#8217;s &#8220;retired&#8221;.  But in spite of _not_ being unemployed, he&#8217;s still going back to school.  OK.  What is he preparing for?  Teaching.  Good.  What subject??  History.  Political science.  Social science.  Wow, says I&#8230;you must find the present debate and political shenanigans really interesting (running on Fox news as we discuss).  What debate and political shenanigans??? says he.  The Health Care bill.  Well, says he, I&#8217;m a conservative,  and watch Fox news.  And then he tells me he thinks the bill should pass, because 45,000 people are uninsured and can&#8217;t get health care and the insurance companies cut people&#8217;s insurance  off at will &#8230;. and so on right down the leftist party line.    What about the Constitution, says I.  It&#8217;s in there&#8230;says he.  Where?  you know&#8230;that bit about &#8220;the general welfare&#8221;&#8230;.<br />
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Ok&#8230;I&#8217;m done.  Is he stupid?  Ignorant?  Merely told me he was conservative because our &#8220;young friend&#8221;  &#8220;warned&#8221; him about me?<br />
In a sense, I don&#8217;t care what he believes except for a couple of things:  this young man expects to be teaching History in high school; he says he&#8217;s conservative and spouts the leftist line, and lastly&#8230;he seemed so _normal_!  I thought _maybe_ she&#8217;d found a possible&#8230;but &#8230;<br />
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Is he just stupid????  What a disappointment that would be!</p>
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		<title>By: Marguerite</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marguerite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 15:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Zabrina - Most excellent suggestion!  I will do it.  Also, I will prob. be sending $$ to carefully selected individuals, not the RNC at this point.  For anyone who wants to comment:  Is anyone having difficulty w/friendships, sometimes of long duration, being affected by the split that the &#039;health care&#039; issue has caused? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zabrina &#8211; Most excellent suggestion!  I will do it.  Also, I will prob. be sending $$ to carefully selected individuals, not the RNC at this point.  For anyone who wants to comment:  Is anyone having difficulty w/friendships, sometimes of long duration, being affected by the split that the &#8216;health care&#8217; issue has caused? </p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 01:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice one, Marg.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice one, Marg.</p>
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		<title>By: zabrina</title>
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		<dc:creator>zabrina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 01:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s a great rant at Ace of Spades HQ on the same subject:
&quot;Dear GOP: Fight&quot;
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/299701.php
 
Sterling. I do suggest that any time we send a check to the GOP we enclose a letter articulating our feelings and directions, or at least a printout of an essay or blog post we agree with. Let them know what you want and that it&#039;s not a blank check.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a great rant at Ace of Spades HQ on the same subject:<br />
&#8220;Dear GOP: Fight&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://ace.mu.nu/archives/299701.php" rel="nofollow">http://ace.mu.nu/archives/299701.php</a><br />
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Sterling. I do suggest that any time we send a check to the GOP we enclose a letter articulating our feelings and directions, or at least a printout of an essay or blog post we agree with. Let them know what you want and that it&#8217;s not a blank check.<br />
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		<title>By: Marguerite</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marguerite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 23:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My son sent me this today and asked me to forward it to others who may benefit from the technique: Just in case you are having a rough day, here is a stress management technique used traditionally in Sicily .
The funny thing is that it really does work!
1. Picture yourself lying on your belly on a warm rock that hangs out over a crystal clear stream.
2. Picture yourself with both your hands dangling in the cool running water.
3. Birds are sweetly singing in the cool mountain air.
4. No one knows your secret place.
5. You are in total seclusion from that hectic place called the world.
6. The soothing sound of a gentle water fall fills the air with a cascade of serenity.
7 The water is so crystal clear that you can easily make out the face of Nancy Pelosi, the person you are holding underwater.
There! 　See? It really does work. 　You&#039;re smiling already.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My son sent me this today and asked me to forward it to others who may benefit from the technique: Just in case you are having a rough day, here is a stress management technique used traditionally in Sicily .<br />
The funny thing is that it really does work!<br />
1. Picture yourself lying on your belly on a warm rock that hangs out over a crystal clear stream.<br />
2. Picture yourself with both your hands dangling in the cool running water.<br />
3. Birds are sweetly singing in the cool mountain air.<br />
4. No one knows your secret place.<br />
5. You are in total seclusion from that hectic place called the world.<br />
6. The soothing sound of a gentle water fall fills the air with a cascade of serenity.<br />
7 The water is so crystal clear that you can easily make out the face of Nancy Pelosi, the person you are holding underwater.<br />
There! 　See? It really does work. 　You&#8217;re smiling already.<br />
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		<title>By: suek</title>
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		<dc:creator>suek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 17:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt;&gt;Bill C – How do you repeal a hydra-headed monster?&gt;&gt;
 
You win the House and Senate, and then investigate  Obama&#039;s eligibility to be president.  Forget the &quot;was he really born in Hawaii&quot; part (which I&#039;d also question, and which I believe the House and Senate could establish by demanding a copy of the original, but I realize people are _really_ leery of this, and there _are_ a lot of legal questions) and stick with the fact that he _does_ posses dual citizenship, and that alone affects his &quot;natural born&quot; status, and therefore his eligibility.  If you can establish that he was not in fact eligible to run, then investigate the leaders of the Dem party - what they knew and when they knew it.  There were two versions of the letter sent to the Secretaries of State declaring him as their candidate.  One stated plainly that he satisfied all requirements for eligibility, the other did not.  Why not?
 
Find him ineligible, and nothing he has signed is law.  Everything is undone.  Congress can re-do or not.
 
Other than that...it&#039;s going to be a long haul and tough sledding all the way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;Bill C – How do you repeal a hydra-headed monster?&gt;&gt;<br />
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You win the House and Senate, and then investigate  Obama&#8217;s eligibility to be president.  Forget the &#8220;was he really born in Hawaii&#8221; part (which I&#8217;d also question, and which I believe the House and Senate could establish by demanding a copy of the original, but I realize people are _really_ leery of this, and there _are_ a lot of legal questions) and stick with the fact that he _does_ posses dual citizenship, and that alone affects his &#8220;natural born&#8221; status, and therefore his eligibility.  If you can establish that he was not in fact eligible to run, then investigate the leaders of the Dem party &#8211; what they knew and when they knew it.  There were two versions of the letter sent to the Secretaries of State declaring him as their candidate.  One stated plainly that he satisfied all requirements for eligibility, the other did not.  Why not?<br />
 <br />
Find him ineligible, and nothing he has signed is law.  Everything is undone.  Congress can re-do or not.<br />
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Other than that&#8230;it&#8217;s going to be a long haul and tough sledding all the way.</p>
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