Comments on: Getting a closer look at why liberals continue to feel that blacks should be held to a different standard

By: Rhymes With Right

Rhymes With Right — Sat, 17 Apr 2010 14:02:08 +0000

Watcher’s Council Results…

One of my fellow members of the Watcher’s Council noted that this week had a particularly fine selection of posts in both the Council and Non-Council categories. I certainly have to agree with him in that regard. Just look at the outcome of this week…

By: Watcher of Weasels » The Council has Spoken 041610

Watcher of Weasels » The Council has Spoken 041610 — Fri, 16 Apr 2010 13:19:00 +0000

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By: The Colossus of Rhodey

The Colossus of Rhodey — Wed, 14 Apr 2010 23:09:40 +0000

Watcher’s Council nominations…

Mere Rhetoric – Obama Wrecking US Diplomatic Credibility, Squandering Diplomatic Capital In The Middle East Bookworm Room – Getting a closer look at why liberals continue to feel that blacks should be held to a different standard American Digest ……

By: Watcher of Weasels » Watcher Council Nominations April 14, 2010

Watcher of Weasels » Watcher Council Nominations April 14, 2010 — Wed, 14 Apr 2010 13:02:06 +0000

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By: spiff580

spiff580 — Tue, 13 Apr 2010 15:03:47 +0000

@Jennybea: I had a sense somewhere you were agreeing with me. But as you said it was a little unclear, so I called you on it.
Logic does not dictate that I will follow your link simply because you say I should; but I did, and it only made your post that more confusing. And being a conservative does not necessarily mean we will automatically agree nor did I accuse you of being a liberal. So I asked you to clarify.
No harm no foul; we do agree.
@Suek: You are right for the most part. In my opinion, on an individual personal level the appropriate response to these sorts of thing is to ignore them. But I think our leadership needs to respond on some level and show some leadership (and backbone). And immediately apologizing is not the appropriate response. As I said, Breibart’s tactic may be a good way to respond… I don’t know. That is why I asked.

By: suek

suek — Tue, 13 Apr 2010 00:47:18 +0000

Unfortunately, the “racist” accusation falls into the “when did you stop beating your wife” category. No matter what your answer, it leads to another accusation equally unprovable. You cannot _prove_ a negative.

The left uses racism for two reasons: it strikes a chord with the black population which has been successfully indoctrinated into the victim mentality, and since those of us who have been equally indoctrinated to feel guilt if we have even a shred of racial awareness are likely to feel as if we might have committed a social sin, we’re vulnerable to the “make them live up to their own rules” Alinsky tactic.
So…what we have to do is simply ignore the racism charges. “Get over it” needs to be our attitude. If the law has been broken, let them go to court. It is not illegal to be “racist”. It is illegal for a _business_ to follow racist practices in hiring, firing and discriminatory practices towards customers. It is not illegal to be racially biased. Undesirable, maybe, but not illegal.

By: Jennybea

Jennybea — Tue, 13 Apr 2010 00:24:30 +0000

@spiff- perhaps you should reread… I was agreeing with you. Demanding the accuser provide proof is not immature. What is immature is to attempt to deal logically with those people- liberals- who operate in a way where the burden of proof is on the accused. We do, after all, live in a society where we’re innocent until proved guilty. Therefore, to call me racist, you must prove it…

What I meant by the “same tactic” being used, it’s in reference to your mention of what Breitbart is doing- calling accusers out and demanding proof, rendering the accusation useless and void. What other way would there be? Again, if I accused you of killing my dog, why would the burden of proof be on you? Again, liberals act like high schoolers, accusing the girl of being easy, and it’s hers to defend- not the accuser’s to prove.

When I told you to stop being realistic, I was being facetious. I know it’s difficult to read sarcasm in text sometimes, but calm down, dear. We’re on the same team. I’m right of 3 o’clock. I’m on Napolitano’s watch list, since 4/15/09.

I think part of the problem is that when I initially typed the post, my paragraphs were spaced properly, but it posted together, looking like one long statement. Reading it as one paragraph, I can see how you may have misunderstood what I meant. Maybe this one will post correctly.

In a nutshell, I agreed with what you posted, when I quoted you… however, your reminder of who are the logical thinkers around here leaves me with the impression you did not follow my link- otherwise you’d have already known that I’m conservative.

By: spiff580

spiff580 — Mon, 12 Apr 2010 21:58:50 +0000

@Jennybea: One more thing: so if I need to “stop trying to be realistic”, what exactly am I supposed to do? Be unrealistic? What does that mean exactly? Seems to me that may be an immature reaction? Remember, aren’t the conservatives and libertarians the ones that deal in reality. J

By: spiff580

spiff580 — Mon, 12 Apr 2010 21:45:48 +0000

@Jennybea: How is demanding that the people making accusations provide proof of such “immature”? If anything placing the burden of proof on the accuser is a mature response to immature behavior. It’s not the “same tactic”; it’s a wholly different, logical and natural tactical response of someone accused of something they are not guilty of. In fact what it does, if executed properly, is reveal the accuser as a fool and a tool.
What do you propose is the appropriate response to baseless accusations?

By: Jennybea

Jennybea — Fri, 09 Apr 2010 02:00:57 +0000

"That to me is a very tough thing to guage. I think the strategy that Andrew Breitbart is using (calling them out and demanding they prove their allegations) may be a good way to, as you would say, get inside the left’s OODA loop." If I say you killed my dog, don't I have to prove it? Don't I need to show some sort of evidence of your being around my dog long enough to kill it? Of course. So the same tactic should be used. This is complete immature behavior, and if we look at this as if we're dealing with people possessing a high school mentality, they're easier to deal with. Think of the girl who slept with one person and became the whore in rumor. Or the girl who slept with no one and called prude or a tease. The guy who never got any had a small package. And if you say anything that isn't sugar coated and positive, you're a racist. So stop trying to be realistic, already. I am also fed up with this crap. I wrote this piece a couple days ago, about how liberals use race to peddle their agenda. http://www.modernconservative.com/metablog_single.php?p=4472