The East Germans would have loved this one

My younger readers, assuming I have any, don’t remember that, throughout the Cold War, the Communists, especially the East Germans, were reputed to be using feminized men to compete in women’s Olympic events.  The benefit, of course, is that, no matter how the feminists try to deny it, men are stronger than women and, in nose to nose competition, they will win.  This is a biological reality.  (I can’t find a link, but I seem to recall reading somewhere that the end of the Cold War revealed that those suppositions were, in fact, true.)

In a move the East Germans and other Soviets would love, the LGPA (Ladies Professional Golf Association) has removed from its constitution the requirement that LPGA members must be female from birth.  It did so in response to a suit filed by a person who started life as a man but, thanks to modern medicine, now has the hormones and external physical attributes of a woman.

Did you notice how carefully I phrased the description of the litigant, who rejoices under the name Lana Lawless?  I didn’t do that to be offensive to transgendered people.  I did it to make the point that, hormones and surgery notwithstanding, Lawless, and others similarly situated, still have a lot of man left in them — which gives them a distinct competitive advantage.  Think of shoulder joints, for example.  Women cannot throw balls the way men can, because women’s shoulders are differently jointed.  This accounts for the bizarre pitching style in women’s softball.

I’m not suggesting that droves of men are going to turn into women simply so that they can shine in women’s competitive sports.  It does seem unfair, however, to allow someone who has a man’s body, no matter how it’s been altered, to compete on equal terms with women.

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  • http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com Ymarsakar

    Women cannot throw balls the way men can, because women’s shoulders are differently jointed.
     
    What do you mean differently jointed? As far as I know, women’s joints there operate the same way. They may be balanced differently in order for them to hold stuff but that’s just a superficial structure issue.
     
    Men also throw “submarine” style, underhanded. It’s not popular, of course, but some people got started doing it cause it’s just freaking weird to see and creates trick throws that most batters don’t know how to handle.

  • http://bookwormroom.com Bookworm

    I was always under the impression, Y, that men and women had slightly different joint function.  That is, it’s not just a matter of strength that sees man throwing harder and faster, but also a matter of mechanics.  I may well be wrong, having operated under a misconception all these years.

  • Libby

    I’m guessing the LPGA didn’t want a repeat of the Renée Richards challenge to the women-born policy of the US Tennis Association in 1977 (USTA lost). Bu I agree – men and women are different physically, and it seems ridiculous to not acknowledge this.

  • http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com Ymarsakar

    Anatomically, I’ve never heard or seen anything relating to a different function between male shoulder joints vs female shoulder joints. While there are flexibility differences between individuals, that’s not the same as dramatically changing the number of degrees the joint is free to move (in a direction) before it is dislocated.
     
    By function I mean if a woman wants to do kinetic linking by throwing a baseball the same way as a man, the normal pitcher’s stance you see flow, she can do so. Why women are not often seen doing so, I don’t know. I don’t much concern myself with softball or baseball, except on a tactical level.
     
    As for throwing speed and length, mechanics is a big part of it. However, that mechanic uses a lot more than just the shoulder joints. Women may prefer the underhanded throw because it utilizes a different part of the body to power the throw and may feel easier.
     
    http://www.essortment.com/all/mildredbabedid_riqn.htm
     
    I found this story interesting when reading. Many of her female teammates didn’t like her. But what that reminds me of is Sarah palin. Babe was put into a similar position of pushing social limitations, wasn’t liked by women, attacked by others for being not a real woman, and so forth. Whether her personality was really that abrasive or not is out of my field of judgment. But the comparison is very interesting to modern times.
    http attic.areavoices.com/2008/08/21/ila-borders-shuts-out-mike-wallace-1998/
     
    Looking at comparison throws like that, it’s not that great. Most men can’t throw 95 mph fastball, let alone the top rated 100.9 mph throw. I can’t find videos of these people so I can’t see if they throw underhanded or overhanded. Illa was rated at 80 mph or so.
    Btw, mechanics on this fashion simply means you are powering it up with multiple muscles. Muscles are still the source of the power. Thus even if a woman throws the same way as a man, the greater upper muscular strength of a man will increase the force of the ball, thus its speed.
     
     
     

  • http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com Ymarsakar

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZJzNTxgIx0&feature=related
     
    Another example that might be interesting.
     
    Btw, “Babe” Zacharias was said to have founded women’s PGA. If you look at her profile, I don’t think she’d have been happy with these rules changes. Of course. In her day and age, it would never have occurred to her  that sex change individuals would ever wish to play in the LPGA. Just not something her world could understand, really.
     
    Book, if you wish to provide me with more details as to what led you to this belief I can perhaps re-engineer it and gather further research on it.

  • http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com Ymarsakar

    Btw, this is kind of ironic.
    Don’t you find it ironic, Book, that in searching for women’s baseball pitches that I ended up at one of the founding women of the LPGA, who essentially had a track record better at the time than Tiger Woods’ one at his?
     
    I find it very strange. Like the red string of fate.

  • Charles Martel

    My oldest brother, Billy, just turned 68. He has been playing baseball and fast-pitch softball since he was 8.

    Back in the late 60s, he and his team played an exhibition against a traveling quintet of teenage girls called “Queen and Her Court.” Queen, who was 17 or 18 years old, was the pitcher. Her sisters and a couple of other players played catcher and the three bases.

    (Notice that there were no outfielders.)

    Queen was a phenom. She could pitch softballs well into the 90-miles-per-hour range, and would strike out virtually everybody she faced. Sometimes she would even pitch blindfolded. On those occasions when a batter got a piece of one of her pitches, the basemen were there to quell the disturbance. Few balls ever made it past the infield.  

    Although my brother was a fine pitcher, he achieved his reputation by also being a deadly hitter. (That combination of talents kept him in the game for decades—even when he was in his 50s, teams of 20- and 30-somethings would plead to have him play with them.) 

    Anyway, my bro got up and faced Queen.

    His report of that encounter has remained remarkably economical, unchanged and Caesar-like through the years:

    “I swung. I whiffed. I struck out.”

    He said Queen was the best fast-pitch softball pitcher he ever faced.

    That story is one of the reasons why, if I’m channel surfing on a slow day, I won’t hesitate to stop to watch college girls playing the game. The pitching is sometimes otherworldly and I get a hint of what must have been going through my poor sib’s mind those many years ago. 

  • http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com Ymarsakar

    For references, the difference between baseball and softball is in the distance between pitcher and batter plus the size of the ball. I heard it was 60 inches for baseball, 42 some odd inches for softball.
     
    Martel, what kind of throw did Queen use? Windmill overhand, underhanded, or ?
     
     

  • Charles Martel

    Windmill underhand.

  • MacG

    Y,  If you look at the way women generaly stand their elbows seem to have a natural inward pull and their knees tend inward more then men.  Think of bowlegeged men and their elbows trend outward.  This phyicality with all other things being equal women would make better golfers than men.  Hence the underhand fast pitch vs the overhand fast hardball pitch. 

    Hardball.  In the current context does anyone else think that Chris Matthews throws like a girl?  I mean fast soft ball pitch and usually the same one over and over again?

    PS I know thatI have asked this befoire but when I preview my post the preview window removes all paragraphs and I have to reformat. What gives? :/

  • MacG

    “For references, the difference between baseball and softball is in the distance between pitcher and batter plus the size of the ball. I heard it was 60 inches for baseball, 42 some odd inches for softball.”

    Good thing you’re not  a carpenter… I think you mean 60 feet and 42 feet respectively

  • http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com Ymarsakar

    If you look at the way women generaly stand their elbows seem to have a natural inward pull and their knees tend inward more then men
     
    That was included in my descriptions of superficial differences in alignment for purposes of carrying loads.
     

    I think you mean 60 feet and 42 feet respectively
     
    I thought we were talking about miniature playfields?
     
    Book’s comment code for wordpress is not working correctly when switching between real vs html mode. Actually, there is no option for html mode but it kind of flicks on and off.

  • MacG

    “I think you mean 60 feet and 42 feet respectively
     
    I thought we were talking about miniature playfields?”

    Liliputian ball perhaps.

    The HTML thingy makes sense I suppose. At times it will only allow me one or two charchters per line.  Thinking from a future perspective we are still using the stones, knives and bearskins of technology.  Thanks for the heads up.

  • 11B40

    Greetings:
     
    Somewhat south of your own elite bailiwick, there was news story of a similar vein.  A quite large career criminal some 6′ 7″ and 275 lbs avoirdupois overwhelmed a female Deputy Sheriff, took her weapons, and terrorized the local area for the better part of the day.
     
    The Santa Clara County Sheriff appeared before the media to laud the 5′ 3″ Deputy’s efforts to stave off the criminal’s attack and to promise a complete review of the County’s prisoner transportation policies.
     
    No mention was made that perhaps hiring not only females, but 5′ 3″ females may not quite be the best way to impose order in Santa Clara County.
     
     

  • http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com Ymarsakar

    No prob.

  • http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com Ymarsakar

    If you can highlight text in the box and click ctrl + b to make it bold, then it is real visual editor. But if you can type <B> into it and it automatically parses it into bold, then it is an html editor.
     
    Obviously it’s not parsing that’s why nothing turned bold.
    No mention was made that perhaps hiring not only females, but 5′ 3″ females may not quite be the best way to impose order in Santa Clara County.
     
    Perp saw a way out. The chances of success increased after he counted coup and considered the weaknesses of the guard. If a criminal gets the idea into his head too many times that he has an advantage over you, it increases the chance he will do something about it every time. A female can be trained to handle someone of much larger size but it would not be training provided by the usual keystone cops crowd. A trained operator or individual, would never give off the body language signals that say “prey” or “can be overpowered”.
     
    Btw, according to my BMI calculator, the perp rounds out to 31.0.
    http://www.nhlbisupport.com/bmi/
     
    In comparison, I’m somewhere around 25.8 BMI.

  • http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com Ymarsakar

    http://winstonscat.blogspot.com/2010/12/iranian-national-air-line-has-star-of.html
     
    I think Bookworm and Company would find that especially pleasing.