British women escaping Western nihilism

In past posts, I’ve noted that it isn’t surprising that British women are converting in surprisingly high numbers to Islam.  In a secularized, socialized, de-moralized Britain (and, by de-moralized, I mean a place remarkably free of traditional morality), the women are pickled in alcohol, and encouraged to have sex at the drop of a hat with whomever happens to be convenient.

In other words, Britain’s social mores — or lack thereof — have abandoned its to a type of decadence that and debauchery that is soul destroying.  Islam, which frees them from the drink and sex culture, must seem to offer a redemptive purity.  The price they pay — complete submission to men — seems small, since they were already completely submitted to men, only in a debauched, not a “pure” way.

The Muslims understand this.  Although the value they place is women is stifling and dehumanizing, they still value their women more than Britain values its women.  Muslims clearly see Western women in precisely the same terms that those women see themselves:  as unprotected vessels to satisfy men’s sexual desires.

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  • David Foster

    In 1950, Arthur Koestler published a novel about an American woman who had an affair with a committed Communist—I think it is very relevant to the situation you’re describing. Although Hydie, Koestler’s protagonist, was not motivated by western sexual and alcoholic debauchery, but rather by western loss of civilizational self-confidence, which made it impossible for her to be sexually and emotionally attracted to western men. My review here: sleeping with the enemy,

  • Danny Lemieux

    Unfortunately, this too has parallels. Many people joined the Nazis in the 1930s specifically as a revolt against the debauchery of the Weimar Republic. Fascism offered “order” in the face of chaos.
    I see this as a very worrisome trend that many Europeans will see Islam as offering rules and boundaries in contrast to only marginally-Christian societies. These women don’t know what they are getting into and by the time the realize it, the damage will be done.

  • MacG

    Christianity is said to have similar subjection: Ephesians 5:
    22Wives, be subject to your own husbands, as to the Lord.
     23For the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ also is the head of the church, He Himself being the Savior of the body. ”
    The detractors stop there (and so do some Christians I’m afraid) but the following verses put it into context:  24But as the church is subject to Christ, so also the wives ought to be to their husbands in everything.
     25Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself up for her,
     26so that He might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word,
     27that He might present to Himself the church in all her glory, having no spot or wrinkle or any such thing; but that she would be holy and blameless.
     28So husbands ought also to love their own wives as their own bodies. He who loves his own wife loves himself;
     29for no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as Christ also does the church,
     30because we are members of His body.
     32This mystery is great; but I am speaking with reference to Christ and the church.
     33Nevertheless, each individual among you also is to love his own wife even as himself, and the wife must see to it that she respects her husband.
    I doubt you’ll find this kind of sacrifice prescribed for the Mulsim Man. MacG

  • Charles Martel

    One of wacko feminism’s many blind spots is that it has created a generation of subordinate skanks who do not understand how thoroughly Hefnerized they’ve become: pneumatic, always available, nasty, and willing to kill their own children for the sake of having sex like immature men.

    Somewhere deep down many Brit wantons know how wrong this is. You can’t fool your own nature for too long.

  • Ymarsakar

    This was all intentional on the part of the Left. They also ally with Muslims explicitly assuming that at the end of it all when they have collapsed Western civilization, it will be the LibProgs that dictate the future. However, given how the Leftist-Islamic alliance turned out in the Iranian Revolution, that’s not so assured in my analysis.

  • Friend of USA

    Feminists promised us a better world where women would chose to become doctors, lawyers and airline pilots but what we have now is a generation of women who chose to get drunk, chose to do drug , who chose to be boy’s sex toys,  who chose to dress, talk and act like whores …
    and when they have had enough of that, they want to be subserviant to their Muslim husband.
    In short,
    the emancipation of women has created a generation of women who want to be dominated either by being ” western ” whores or by being the subserviant Muslim wife.
    Feminists must be so proud of themselves.
    Meanwhile there is still a lack of women in the “hard science” ( physics, mathematics, etc…)  in most Universities…

  • Friend of USA

    My point ?
    Don’t try the liberal/leftist way.
    We have seen the results and they are appaling.
    Liberalism brings mostly decay and depravity.
    one more example ,
    White Liberals told black people “you are equal to us, you can be anyhting you want!”
    and what do most young black men and women chose ?
    The gangsta’lifestyle.
    They dress like criminals, talk like criminals and a lot of them are crimninals, they call their girlfreind “bitches”, and other women “whores”
    Again more leftism/liberalism and what we have as a result is a segment of the population in decay, swimming up to their ears in depravity.
    So yes my point is don’t try leftism/liberalism, it only brings decay and depravity.

  • David Foster

    During the late 1930s, a young Nazi was heard to say “We Germans are so happy. We are free of freedom.”
    I’m afraid there are also some people in the Western world today who seem to regard freedom as an excessive burden.

  • Ymarsakar

    The Left corrupts all that they touch in time. It is almost a law of nature by now. In terms of that, they are a great success. Greater than you may know.

    Here’s an example of what comes from Leftist intervention. Not only do they provide Zero solutions, but they create more problems and factional splitting. Better to divide and conquer, perhaps, but worse for general unity of purpose in getting problems fixed. That was their intention all along. To make poverty unfixable, thus forever taking advantage of it. And poverty was only one arrow in their quiver. They have many more.

  • Jose

    My personal obervations correlate with this trend, albeit with American women, rather than British ones.

    I spent 8 years in the UK, courtesy of Uncle Sam.  During that time I never knew, or heard of, an American female GI even dating a bloke.

    I also spent one summer in Turkey, and met two female GIs married to local muslims.  One got a divorce and left her children with her American ex to do it.

    I have no idea what the appeal of the Turks was, but there was definitely something there.  My impression of the men was that they were somewhat westernized and liberal, but I didn’t know them well.  I’ve wondered about it ever since.

  • iconoclast

    For years now, women have been encouraged to feel hostility and contempt for their husbands and decent boyfriends. Can a woman fully enjoy sex and day-to-day life with a man she feels this way about?…Doesn’t seem likely. So it seems a lot of women are seeking men who CAN’T be pushed around and who will put limits on them, often they choose arrogant jerks or sometimes actual thugs. Isn’t it likely that the attraction to men from other cultures & especially Islam due to the same thing?

  • Mike Devx

    > Feminists promised us a better world where women would chose to become doctors, lawyers and airline pilots but what we have now is a generation of women who chose to get drunk, chose to do drug , who chose to be boy’s sex toys,  who chose to dress, talk and act like whores …

    I don’t know if its apropos or not… but as a teenager, I always had the freedom of choice to study and do my homework, or sit around with friends and listen to comedy albums, and make farting sounds with a fist and an armpit.

    Guess which I chose?

  • Charles Martel

    You get an especially lush farting sound if your pit is dripping with sweat.