Tea Party Derangement Syndrome

I’ve noticed lately, in talking to liberals, that their frontal lobes have been taken over by the Tea Party.  Sadly, when I say this I don’t mean that they’ve embraced the Tea Party’s commitment to smaller government and greater individual freedom.  I mean instead that the idea of the Tea Party sits in their brains, stimulating them to bizarre flights of rhetorical fancy.  Two examples:

First example:  I was talking with someone about vaccinations (in which I strongly believe).  I mentioned that in my neck of the woods, despite the high level of education, many people are hostile to vaccinations, preferring “holistic” remedies, none of which have a strong track record when it comes to measles, polio, small pox, etc.  The person to whom I was speaking instantly said, “Well, educated people often have completely irrational beliefs.  Look at Nazis or the Tea Partiers.”  A more accurate observation might have been that the people near me, most of them Ivy Leaguers, didn’t get a lot of bang for their bucks when it come to learning logical, scientific thinking at their expensive Ivory Towers.

Second example:  I overheard someone talking to a colleague about someone with whom they both worked:  “Ignore him.  He’s a completely fruitcake.  When it comes to this project, he’s like one of those insane Tea Partiers.”  Tea Party = Crazy.

This is not a local phenomenon.  David Letterman is playing the same game:

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  • Tonestaple

    This is a good thing:  it means they fear us.  And they are definitely not making any friends this way.

  • suek

    Agreed.  It’s the Alinsky Way.
     
    It’s going to be a problem for them though, I think, because there are too many middle Americans who identify with the Tea Party, and who _know_ that the Tea Party rallies simply are not what the Progs are trying to paint them to be.
    I loved the one by someone on a panel on Fox News…”Tea Party rallies are racist.  They are 90% white – just look at them!”… Response…what about the fact that 97% of blacks voted for Obama – isn’t that racist???  Oh no…of course not!

  • Danny Lemieux

    Sorry, but these people are utter morons. Let them personally demean and diminish the Tea Party all they want…that works to our advantage as I don’t believe the population at large buys this schtick. But, to suggest as they do that the Nazis were “irrational” simply speaks to their utter lack of vision or imagination and it makes it all the more likely that people like that will again come into power.
     
    What makes the Nazis (or Communists or Fascists or Socialists or Progressives) so scary is exactly that they were so rational. They represented the logical end-point of the secular-humanist Stateopian vision. And, they came pretty close to turning their vision into a reality.

  • SADIE

    “Well, educated people often have completely irrational beliefs.  Look at Nazis or the Tea Partiers.”
     
    Stunningly ignorant in every sense. Hostile at vaccinations, but supportive of Flotillas. Hostile at Israel, but supportive of madmen. Hostile at reading the Constitution, but supportive of illegal immigration. I dare them to define irrational. They are a moral hazard and every time they open their mouths a yellow blinking light goes on.
     

  • kali

    I’m amazed they said the Tea Partiers were educated. That’s a distinct improvement.

  • dicentra

    Ivy Leaguers didn’t get a lot of bang for their bucks when it come to learning logical, scientific thinking at their expensive Ivory Towers. “Logicial thinking” is an artificial construct employed by Teh Straight White Patriarchy to oppress evabody else. They could never in good conscience teach that kind of h8. They are to be endlessly admired for this kind of courage.

  • http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com Ymarsakar

    A predictable enemy is a dead enemy. If they are so obviously one tracking their mind, it will be easy for me to destroy them utterly by it.

  • http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com Ymarsakar

    I’m amazed they said the Tea Partiers were educated. That’s a distinct improvement.

    It’s cognitive dissonance. The proper response would be “How can you say Tea Partiers have education comparable to Democrat leading intellectuals?”

    Then watch them squirm.

  • Gringo

    Attempts to marginalize  adherents of the Tea Party began early began rather early. Recall SanFranNan’s “astroturf”  comment and when various media types  applied the homophobic epithet “teabagger”  to  adherents of the Tea Party. While some supporters of the POTUS may maintain that he wasn’t aware of the homophobic nature of “teabagger” when he used the term, this is a dubious assertion. It recalls his use of the middle finger.
     
    The shock troops of the libs and progs have taken these attempts to marginalize the Tea Party to heart, as shown by  the remarks in this article. Unfortunately, this attempt to marginalize the Tea Party didn’t work in marginalizing the political effect of the Tea Party, as shown by the successes of Tea Party-supported candidates in gaining nominations and elected office.
     
    What the attempts to marginalize the Tea Party mainly succeeded in doing was to polarize the population. The libs and progs considered otherwise sane and unbigoted people as insane bigots. Those otherwise sane and unbigoted people who were labeled as insane and bigoted developed a very strong dislike for their political opponents.
     
     

  • http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com Ymarsakar

    A favorite way guerilla movements gain support for their insurgency is to cause the occupation forces to crack down on innocent farmers and villagers. Even if the populace disliked the insurgence, they would be pushed into the guerilla camp once the crack down started by the likes of PillowC.
     
    Is it so surprising the political class that got the insurgency in Iraq so wrong, would not understand how to deal with it at home?

  • http://zachriel.blogspot.com/ Zachriel

    Bookworm: Tea Party = Crazy

    It’s best not to overgeneralize to an entire group. Nor is it fair to characterize a group by some its fringe followers. Here are a couple of prominent Tea Party leaders, in their own words.

    Glenn Beck: “This president I think has exposed himself over and over again as a guy who has a deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture.”

    Glenn Beck: “I’m thinking about killing Michael Moore, and I’m wondering if I could kill him myself, or if I would need to hire somebody to do it.”

    Mark Williams: Obama is an “Indonesian Muslim turned welfare thug.”

    Mark Williams: “We Coloreds have taken a vote and decided that we don’t cotton to that whole emancipation thing. Freedom means having to work for real, think for ourselves, and take consequences along with the rewards. That is just far too much to ask of us Colored People and we demand that it stop!”

    • http://bookwormroom.com Bookworm

      You’re right, Zachriel, about the fact that the heat runs high on both sides, and there are always people who will say foolish, or even dangerous things. What I was trying to convey, though, is the way in which one side of the political spectrum is trying to relabel the other side of the political spectrum, so that the latter becomes synonymous, not with its ideas, but with insanity itself. Also, Beck and Williams are political commentators. What I heard was from ordinary people in ordinary conversations who have simply morphed “Tea Party” into a synonym for “Insane” or “Stupid & Dangerous.”

  • SADIE

    Seems as though, Dr. Wakefield  was contracted by lawyers hoping to sue vaccine manufacturers and to create a vaccine scare for $674,000.
     
    A now-retracted British study that linked autism to childhood vaccines was an “elaborate fraud” that has done long-lasting damage to public health, a leading medical publication reported Wednesday.
    http://edition.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/01/05/autism.vaccines/?hpt=T1
     
     
     
     
     
     

  • http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com Ymarsakar

    Here are a couple of prominent Tea Party leaders, in their own words.

    Since when were they leaders of the Tea Party. I guess the line about astroturf paid for by Fox News, actually convinced some people.

  • http://zachriel.blogspot.com/ Zachriel

    <b>Ymarsakar</b>: <I>Since when were they leaders of the Tea Party.</i>

    Glenn Beck called a rally in DC, and tea party activists showed up.
    Mark Williams was a leader of the Tea Party Express.
    Fox News regularly promoted the Tea Party.

  • Danny Lemieux

    Zachriel, I am sure some Presbyterians showed up for the Glenn Beck rally and Tea Party as well. Does that make the Presbyterian Church leaders of the Glenn Beck rally and Tea Party as well?
    Fox News regularly promoted the Tea Party because it was NEWS. The “news” organizations that diminished or refused to cover the Tea Party were hardly promoting the “news”, were they! Especially, given how the Tea Party factored in the most recent election.
     
    Also, FOX news includes many Liberal/Left commentators such Kirstin Powers, Mara Liasson, Bob Bechtel, Geraldo Rivera and Juan Williams. Does this mean these Liberals are part of the Tea Party movement, too?
    Who knew?

  • http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com Ymarsakar

    Like I said, Zach. I get that people swallowed the propaganda line about Fox News and the Tea Party. What’s the point of proving me right again?
     
    You certainly must think language and words are important, Zach. So what do you think a leader, actually, is? It is rather important what your views about a leader are, when calling people leaders. I’m thinking here that you do not have quite a clear enough grasp on the fundamental nature of a leader, yet.
     
    Does that make the Presbyterian Church leaders of the Glenn Beck rally and Tea Party as well?

    No, it would make G Beck a leader of the Presbyterian Church. Duh ; )

    Does this mean these Liberals are part of the Tea Party movement, too?

    That’s why they got excommunicated. So that people can’t say “Oh, look, the Left approves of LibProgs appearing on Fox News and validating their information authority”. Juan Williams stepped in it. And if any of the others get out of line, they’ll get excommunicated by the Faithful as well. On faith alone, do they believe in Utopia. On faith alone, Danny. There is no need for any other thing, certainly not reason.

  • http://zachriel.blogspot.com/ Zachriel

    Danny Lemieux: Zachriel, I am sure some Presbyterians showed up for the Glenn Beck rally and Tea Party as well. Does that make the Presbyterian Church leaders of the Glenn Beck rally and Tea Party as well?  

    Did the Presbyterian church organize a Tea Party rally?  

    Danny Lemieux:
    Fox News regularly promoted the Tea Party because it was NEWS.  

    They fawned over it, and actively promoted it, including helpful hints for “maximizing the message of tea party organizers.”  

    Danny Lemieux:
    Also, FOX news includes many Liberal/Left commentators such Kirstin Powers, Mara Liasson, Bob Bechtel, Geraldo Rivera and Juan Williams. Does this mean these Liberals are part of the Tea Party movement, too?  

    Most of the “liberal” commentators are used a foils for the propaganda.

    Ymarsakar
    : So what do you think a leader, actually, is?  

    Someone who organizes a large political rally certainly qualifies as a political leader.  

  • http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com Ymarsakar

    Someone who organizes a large political rally is a community organizer. The idea that a community organizer is the same as a political leader, however, is an idea originating in low class substitutes.
     
    It’s not something considered to be philosophically true by those in the know.
     
    Did the Presbyterian church organize a Tea Party rally?

    So you really think G Beck is a leader of the Presbyterian church(s) just because the PC attended Beck’s rally?

    Most of the “liberal” commentators are used a foils for the propaganda.

    So you really think they got excommunicated because their LibProg licenses were considered to be fake.

  • http://zachriel.blogspot.com/ Zachriel

    Ymarsakar: Someone who organizes a large political rally is a community organizer.

    A community organizer works on a community level and addresses community concerns.

    Ymarsakar: The idea that a community organizer is the same as a political leader, however, is an idea originating in low class substitutes.

    If someone calls the Tea Party to gather, and they gather, then they are a leader of the Tea Party.

    Ymarsakar: So you really think G Beck is a leader of the Presbyterian church(s) just because the PC attended Beck’s rally?

    You’re not very good at drawing distinctions. Beck organized a Tea Party rally, not a meeting of the Presbyterian Church. The Presbyterian Church did not organize the rally.

  • http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com Ymarsakar

    If someone calls the Tea Party to gather, and they gather, then they are a leader of the Tea Party.

    And you think the Tea Party aren’t communities because…

  • http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com Ymarsakar

    Beck organized a Tea Party rally, not a meeting of the Presbyterian Church.

    I’ve very good at detecting looping logic constructs. So basically your evidence for the claim that Beck is the leader of the Tea Party is that he organized a Tea Party rally. Whereas your explanation for the claim that Beck organized a Tea Party rally is that Beck is a leader of the Tea Party.
    This is like claiming your father was yourself.

  • SADIE

    Beck organized a rally “restore honor in America” – period.
     
    The Tea Party does not have a face or a name.  There are candidates that won on the Republican ticket, who were supported by the Tea Party, just as there were  ‘other’ candidates who were supported by other outlets.
     

  • http://zachriel.blogspot.com/ Zachriel

    Ymarsakar: So basically your evidence for the claim that Beck is the leader of the Tea Party …

    Not “the leader”, but “a leader”.

    Ymarsakar: is that he organized a Tea Party rally. Whereas your explanation for the claim that Beck organized a Tea Party rally is that Beck is a leader of the Tea Party.

    That statement makes little sense. Someone who calls their followers to gather, who then gather, is a leader.

    SADIE: The Tea Party does not have a face or a name. 

    Um, you just named it.

  • Gringo

    Danny Lemieux: Fox News regularly promoted the Tea Party because it was NEWS.
    Zachriel: They fawned over it, and actively promoted it, including helpful hints for “maximizing the message of tea party organizers.”
    This is just more of the “Fox News is partisan, and the MSM is objective” nonsense. Just like “objective” NPR fired Juan Williams for having the temerity to appear on Fox and express his opinion, whereas by contrast Juan Williams freely expressed his opinion on NPR. According to NPR, there are certain places where one is not permitted to express one’s opinion, and some places where one IS permitted to express one’s opinion. [NPR later fired the person who fired Juan Williams.]
     
    Apparently the problem with Fox News is that it didn’t label the Tea Party as “astroturfing,” and employ announcers who used the homophobic label of “teabagger” at  adherents of the Tea Party. That would have been peachy keen for Zachriel.
     
    So we’re all Fox News zombies, Zachriel. I don’t watch TV. The only use I make of Fox online is for sports or to link to it when it is referenced in a blog article. Nor do I watch Glenn Beck. Yet I support the Tea Party.
    If you really believe the MSM is “objective,” you and I have a substantial disagreement [case in point Van Jones].

    Zachriel: You’re not very good at drawing distinctions. Beck organized a Tea Party rally, not a meeting of the Presbyterian Church. The Presbyterian Church did not organize the rally.
    No, YOU  are not very good very good at drawing distinctions. Glenn Beck organized the “Restoring Honor” rally. He did NOT organize a Tea Party rally per se. While it is true that Tea Party supporters attended the rally, it is also true that Presbyterians and atheists also attended the rally. From FOX NEWS:
     
    Huge crowds at Glenn Beck’s “Restoring Honor” freedom rally — organized to give thanks to U.S. troops — left Washington, D.C., on Saturday night pleased by the theme and the turnout – as thousands in attendance returned home carrying a message of making America better.
    The rally — which Beck and other organizers said they didn’t want labeled as such because they wanted the event to remain non-political — focused on healing the scars that the nation has suffered as a result of its disreputable moments in history.
    “Let’s be honest, if you look at history, America has been both terribly good, and terribly bad. It has been both, but we concentrate on the bad instead of learning from the bad and repairing the bad,” said Beck, who has a radio show and is host of Fox News’ “Glenn Beck.”
    “We have a choice today, to either let those scars crush us or redeem us,” he said, speaking from the Lincoln Memorial, where Martin Luther King, Jr., gave his “I Have a Dream” speech 47 years earlier.
    Beck turned the heads of the estimated crowd toward the opposite end of the Lincoln Memorial to make his point.
    “If you look at the Washington Monument, you might notice its scars. … a quarter of the way up it changes color. Look at it. Look at its scars. How did the scar get there? They stopped building it in the Civil War. And when the war was over, they began again. No one sees the scars of the Washington Memorial, the Washington Monument; we see what it stands for,” he said.
    Beck had tried to fight off accusations that the event — which attracted many supporters of smaller government and lower taxes — was meant to be political. He specifically asked that the audience not bring political signs, and for the most part people seemed to cooperate with the request.
    Indeed, Tommy LaRussa, the St. Louis Cardinals manager who attended the event, said he didn’t feel it was political in nature at all……
     
    Zachriel, when you make arguments based on ignorance, you won’t get very far.
     
    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/08/28/thousands-expected-glenn-beck-rally-civil-rights-leaders-protest-event/#ixzz1ANVkIAM8
     

  • http://zachriel.blogspot.com/ Zachriel

    Gringo: the homophobic label of “teabagger”

    Heh. The term isn’t homophobic, it’s not even unique to the gay community. Straights can do it too! Even if they’re married! In any case, the term originated with the Tea Party itself. The media couldn’t suppress a collective giggle. It’s unimportant.

    Gringo: Glenn Beck organized the “Restoring Honor” rally. He did NOT organize a Tea Party rally per se.

    “Per se”. Meaning he did organize a Tea Party rally in all but name.

    So your argument depends on the rally not actually being a gathering of Tea Partiers. Seriously. FreedomWorks, Tea Party Patriots, Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin. Seriously. There’s little doubt that the 87000 or so people who attended the rally consider themselves Tea Partiers.

  • SADIE

    In any case, the term originated with the Tea Party itself.
     
    Really?! You’ll  have to site that comment and it is important, because it has been used in a sleazy way, just as you implied.
     
    Then, again, much of what you said is implied, never specific and vague tongue wagging. Palin, is a Republican, who prior to the  November 2010 supported some candidates and did not with others. With an informed electorate, one does not make a blind decision but exercises judgment by doing their due diligence. This means reading and understanding more than one point of view.  By the way, we try to hold  discussions here not arguments. We are not combatants on a military field, just Americans sharing a variety of opinions from a broad spectrum of the country, age and a variety of party affiliations at one time or another.
     
     

  • http://zachriel.blogspot.com/ Zachriel

    SADIE: Really?! You’ll  have to site that comment and it is important, because it has been used in a sleazy way, just as you implied.

    Sorry if it wasn’t clear. The use of “tea bag” as a verb for a type of political action was temporarily adopted by the Tea Party. The term itself long predates the Tea Party. That’s why it was funny.

    http://www.chaobell.net/blawg/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/teabag-the-freeper.jpg

    http://www.eyeonlifemag.com/storage/a-hat-for-all-seasons/tea%20bag%20hat.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1275324409441

    SADIE: By the way, we try to hold  discussions here not arguments.

    That’s fine. If you don’t mind, we will continue to point out misstatements when we see them.

  • Danny Lemieux

    There’s little doubt that the 87000 or so people who attended the rally consider themselves Tea Partiers.
    Actually, they considered themselves “American” in the full sense of the word. I recognize that is a very fuzzy concept to some people.
    Zachriel, I recognize that the name “Glenn Beck” seems to open up a raw wound for you. “Tea Party”, too. Care to share?

  • SADIE

    The photos you linked, as I thought, never used a ‘sleazy’ turn of phrase. As you must realize, the Tea Party, was a historical euphemism to the Boston Tea Party and a country that found itself not having control over their destiny. How nice for you and how nice for the rest of us that history proved the 1st Tea Party such a success.
     
    BTW…where did you garner the 87,000 in attendance? So many numbers tossed about, don’t you think. I mean how does one choose which one to trust. You did take the time to double/triple check the most reliable sources, otherwise it would be like repeating a lie or fudging the numbers – you know that ‘fuzzy math’ meme.

  • Gringo

    Gringo: the homophobic label of “teabagger”
    Zachriel: Heh. The term isn’t homophobic, it’s not even unique to the gay community.

    Go call a gay person a “teabagger,” and get back with me.  Better yet, do it with a “giggle.” Those I have asked have informed me they consider it homophobic.
     
    In any case, the term originated with the Tea Party itself.
    The sexual innuendo did not.
     
    The media couldn’t suppress a collective giggle.
    Had the”collective giggle” lasted for a day or so, I could see your point. However, the  “collective giggle”  lasted much longer. Much longer.
     
    It’s unimportant.
    If someone calls me a tebagger, I consider it an insult, as would most  other adherents of the Tea Party. The sexual innuendo, the “collective giggle,” when applied to adherents of the Tea Party has been obvious for quite some while. Only an utter fool would not consider the term “teabagger” applied to Tea Party adherents   to be an insult. That you consider an outright insult to be “unimportant” shows me there is no point in further communicating with you.
     
    I also note that you have not addressed my main point, which is that  given the fig leaf of “objectivity” of  of the MSM, your complaint about any alleged partisan stance on the part of Fox News is absurd.

  • http://zachriel.blogspot.com/ Zachriel

    SADIE: The photos you linked, as I thought, never used a ‘sleazy’ turn of phrase.

    Teabag was used as a verb. It’s ‘sleazy’ connotation was inadvertent. As we already mentioned, it’s an unimportant issue.

    SADIE: where did you garner the 87,000 in attendance?

    Air Photos Live took high resolution photographs.
    http://airphotoslive.com/

    Gringo: your complaint about any alleged partisan stance on the part of Fox News is absurd.

    That’s funny.

  • SADIE

    As we already mentioned, it’s an unimportant issue.

     
    There was no agreement on the pronoun ‘we’. Quite the contrary, I found it offensive. The ‘issue’ was an attempt by the media and certain poisonalities (No, that’s not a typo) to dilute the relevance of the Tea Party.
     
     
    But what was the final count? Depends on the source.
    Here’s a roundup of reported numbers for the Glenn Beck rally:
    Sky News: 500,000
    NBC News: 300,000
    D.C. Official: 300,000-325,000
    Glenn Beck: 300,000-500,000
    ABC News: 100,000+
    CBS News: 87,000
     
    Make a note to yourself for the future – double/triple check your facts and sources.

  • Mike Devx

    The first I ever heard “Teabagger” associated with the Tea Party movement was by Anderson Cooper, and it was a very low blow and egregious insult by a supposed newsman.  Then the Left picked it up swiftly and ran with it.
     
    Anyone who claims it was used descriptively by Tea Partiers to describe themselves sounds very foolish to me.  Perhaps you might find one or two hopelessly confused souls out there who did… but they’re sad and pitiful, uninformed specimens of idiocy.  And I’m bein’ nice here.
     
    Glenn Beck’s rally was not a Tea Party rally.  Perhaps SOME overlap, because, you know, both groups are, like, Patriotic and all that silly crap.  THE PEOPLE AT BOTH KINDS OF RALLIES ARE ALL PATRIOTIC!  THEY MUST BE THE ***SAME*** GROUP!!!   Duh. Doh. Duh. Doh. Duh. Doh.  No, they’re not.  Duh. Doh.
     
    The focus of Tea Party events is economics.  The focus of Glenn Beck’s rally was restoring America’s Honor.  There *is* some overlap, and a Tea Partier can certainly be a fan of Beck – his book “Broke” looks mighty appealing to this Tea Party supporter.
     
    But I would never say that seeing some of the same people at an ACLU event and a Lesbian Pride parade proves that they are ONE AND THE SAME.  Allies and fellow travelers down the same road, yes.  But not the same.
     

  • http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com Ymarsakar

    Of course you don’t make sense. That’s why I brought it up.
     
    Someone who calls their followers to gather, who then gather, is a leader.


    Except for that little problem of Beck not being their leader nor them being his followers. The only reason you believe this is due to your circular sense of things. It’s not enough.

  • http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com Ymarsakar

    The Left believes that faith alone is able to justify their policies and actions.
     
    It’s why they have such a difficult time judging people by their character and not their relationships with others. To the Left, being related to Fox News makes you worthy of Juan Williams and Zell Miller like treatment.
     
    That’s how they view the “truth” in their eyes.
     
    They have no understanding of the relationships between Tea Party members. They have no understanding of the relationship between Iraqis, insurgents, terrorists, and US occupation forces. They have no idea what the hell is going on. They believe whatever they are told. On faith alone do they rest their basis for judgment.

  • http://zachriel.blogspot.com/ Zachriel

    SADIE: Make a note to yourself for the future – double/triple check your facts and sources.

    The quoted figure was based on standard scientific methodology from high-resolution aerial photographs.

    Mike Devx: Anyone who claims it was used descriptively by Tea Partiers to describe themselves sounds very foolish to me.

    They were going to “tea bag” the Liberals. They were going to “tea bag” the Congress. It’s inconsequential.

    Ymarsakar: The only reason you believe this is due to your circular sense of things.

    You seem to be confusing the proper use of a definition with circulus in probando. Someone calls for people to gather. People gather. That makes the person a leader — by definition.

  • Mike Devx

    Zachriel says,
    > oing to “tea bag” the Liberals. They were going to “tea bag” the Congress. It’s inconsequential.
    in 28:
    > The use of “tea bag” as a verb for a type of political action was temporarily adopted by the Tea Party
    in 26:
    > The media couldn’t suppress a collective giggle. It’s unimportant.
    in 32:
    > Teabag was used as a verb. It’s ‘sleazy’ connotation was inadvertent. As we already mentioned, it’s an unimportant issue.

    I’ll revisit this briefly only because *you* are the only poster now claiming it is unimportant, so I don’t know where you get the “we” part in #32’s “as we already mentioned”.  Perhaps you are using “we” the same way a nurse does when she walks in the room and says, “And how are we feeling today?”  Or the fellow teacher back in my teaching days who walked up to a student not busily engaged at his desk and said, “Are we done with our homework yet?”

    A few unsophisticated rubes apparently shortened “we’re going to send tea-bags to Congress” to “we’re going to teabag Congress”.  Next thing you know, huge numbers of media people and entertainment people (these days, what’s the difference?) are snarkily calling all members of the various Tea Party organizations “tea-baggers” and snickering at their own cleverness.  It was a meme that spread like wildfire among the left.

    Most commenters here can think of several reasons why that bizarre dynamic *was* important, while it was happening.  I don’t know if it was actually an organized an effort it was to diminish public perception of Tea Partiers, but at minimum it was a deeply strange and bizarre fad on the Left, and exhibited both a woeful immaturity and a desperation to marginalize the cause at any cost.  (When it failed,they switched to the “racist” canard.  When that failed, they switched to…  repeat ad nauseum.)

    Keep calling it unimportant and inconsequential if *you* wish.

  • Gringo

    From Book’s post on The 40 Most Obnoxious Quotes Of 2010, here are some quotes about the Tea Party. The topic of this thread is Tea Party Derangement Syndrome, so these are appropriate quotes.
     


    29) Yup, and the fact that they chose to call themselves “teabaggers,” which is slang for a certain act involving b***s. It sort of says a lot. I would say a mouthful. Looks like it’s very upsetting for them, but he’s brilliant. The thing is, he’s half white but that’s still not enough — for them it’s all white or f**k off. I think we don’t deserve him and certainly teabaggers don’t deserve him. Carrie Fisher [actress]
     
     
    23) Tainting the tea party movement with the charge of racism is proving to be an effective strategy for Democrats. There is no evidence that tea party adherents are any more racist than other Republicans, and indeed many other Americans. But getting them to spend their time purging their ranks and having candidates distance themselves should help Democrats win in November. Having one’s opponent rebut charges of racism is far better than discussing joblessness. Mary Frances Berry [Professor at University of Pennsylvania and former chairwoman of the United States Commission on Civil Rights.]
     
     
    18) We’re here now to understand the frustration of the teabaggers, and the people that are angry, uh – because many times when you’re angry you’re . . . uh . . . rational abilities are compromised, and you get mad at the wrong party and the wrong thing or whoever is the President… John Conyers [Congressman since 1965]
     
     
    8] But Christians (got into their minds that to kill other people is a great thing to do and that they would be rewarded in the hereafter)….Oh, Christians, every day, people walk into post offices, they walk into schools, that’s what Columbine is — I could do this all day long….There are folk in the Tea Party, for example, every day who are being recently arrested for making threats against elected officials, for calling people ‘n*gger’ as they walk into Capitol Hill, for spitting on people. That’s within the political — that’s within the body politic of this country.Tavis Smiley [talk show host, political commentator]
     
     
    1 ) I know how the “tea party” people feel, the anger, venom and bile that many of them showed during the recent House vote on health-care reform. I know because I want to spit on them, take one of their “Obama Plan White Slavery” signs and knock every racist and homophobic tooth out of their Cro-Magnon heads. — The Washington Post’s Courtland Milloy
     
     
    http://rightwingnews.com/2011/01/the-40-most-obnoxious-quotes-of-2009/

  • SADIE

    Gringo

    “It’s best not to overgeneralize to an entire group”
     
    Oh wait, the quotes you sited ranged from ‘Public Broadcasting’ to ‘Public Officials’ – gee. you think maybe it was just a slip of the tongue an ‘inadvertent connotation’.
     
    I’ll now return to hugging my bible and guns in Pa. Who knows maybe I’ll ‘fawn’ over my cup of coffee and sip it down my racist Cro-Magnon head : )
     
     
     
     

     

     

  • http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com Ymarsakar

    Someone calls for people to gather. People gather. That makes the person a leader — by definition.

    The authoritarian vision allows only one leader. That person is usually at the top. There is however a different system of organizing human beings. This is the distributed system of free individuals that make decisions for themselves.

    On the contrary, when Glenn Beck called for people to gather to Remember Honor in front of the Lincoln statue, the Tea Party members talked to their actual leaders and if their actual leaders decided this was the right thing to do, they organized and prepared the resources for people to get there. G Beck did not have the community organizing skills to convince several different demographics that they should move, enmasse, to DC for a few days.

    A leader, by its real definition, is the person entrusted with the authority to manage and control all the resources of the group, for the survival of the group against internal and external enemies. You have yet to demonstrate, in any shape whatsoever, that G Beck controls the resources of the Tea Party, whether in aggregate or in specifics.

    Your claims rest upon self-bias. Just because a leader in your world is someone who commands and people obey, doesn’t mean the rest of the people around do things the same way.

  • http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com Ymarsakar

    Sadie,
     
    There was no agreement on the pronoun ‘we’.

    You must remember, members of the Leftist alliance believe in authority on faith alone. If their supreme leader decides that this is so, they will say it is so. And that’ll include you in that as well. Agreement? What need for agreement when faith alone suffices.

  • http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com Ymarsakar

    People often tell me that propaganda is weak or they pretend they are immune to its effects. Just look at the case of Zach here.
     
    He presents the appearance of believing everything the media and his social circle told him was true about the Tea Party, yet believes he alone can see through all illusions and fabrications because of it. Ask yourself this, is that really the case here. Is knowledge and education present amongst such individuals in great enough proportions that they can see through 100% of the cons in existence?
     
    This is why my statement is as true now as it was true years ago.
     
    The Art of Propaganda is more powerful than strategic nuclear weapons. In learning to use the power of propaganda on my fellow humans, it has become very clear to me what the limits of human knowledge and awareness are. It isn’t as high as people think. It is not nearly as invincible as people wish to believe it is. It is all too frail and fragile an existence.
     
    Anyone, anywhere, any when can be made to believe whatever the propagandist desires given sufficient time, manpower, and skill. Superior to strategic MIRV nuclear warhead Trident inter-continental missiles in that it can be used without fear of self-annihilation. Far more accurate in that it is invisible to the naked eye and entirely invisible to radar and invulnerable against anti-missile defenses.
     
    A hostage can be conditioned to love and protect her captor against the police and all perceived enemies. This is no different. Regardless of how much power the enemies of humanity accrue, they are still human and thus still mortal. They are vulnerable to the same things their victims are vulnerable to. That is the great equalizer. The scale of justice.
    What goes around, comes around. And for alliance of Leftist activists, there are a great many things in store.
     

  • http://zachriel.blogspot.com/ Zachriel

    Ymarsakar: The authoritarian vision allows only one leader. That person is usually at the top. There is however a different system of organizing human beings. This is the distributed system of free individuals that make decisions for themselves.

    The claim wasn’t that Beck was the only leader in the Tea Party Movement, or that the Tea Party was a monolithic political structure.

    Ymarsakar: A leader, by its real definition, is the person entrusted with the authority to manage and control all the resources of the group, for the survival of the group against internal and external enemies.

    No, a leader may lead through influence and persuasion.

    Ymarsakar: Just because a leader in your world is someone who commands and people obey, doesn’t mean the rest of the people around do things the same way.

    You throw your position into disrepute when you resort to strawman arguments. In any case, a leader doesn’t have to “control all the resources of the group” to be a leader.

    Ymarsakar: He presents the appearance of believing everything the media and his social circle told him was true about the Tea Party, yet believes he alone can see through all illusions and fabrications because of it.

    Inaccurate, and another strawman. The rest of your comment is similarly irrelevant.