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		<title>By: Tonestaple</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2011/02/16/islam-and-rape/comment-page-1/#comment-115385</link>
		<dc:creator>Tonestaple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 01:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t you all know that women&#039;s lot has been hugely improved by Islam?  Arabs don&#039;t automatically kill their baby girls any more.  Women are allowed to own property.  And hijab ensures that women will be treated with dignity, not treated like sex objects.


jj could not possible be more right.  There are places women just can&#039;t go.  It&#039;s got nothing to do with women; it has everything to do with the occupants of faraway places.


This reminds me of a conversation I heard on the radio quite a ways back.  I think it was the Hugh Hewitt show.  The topic was assigning women to submarine crews.  Hugh was pointing out why it was a really bad idea:  extremely close quarters, little to no privacy, and men are men.  One girl called in and said they had to let women serve on submarines in the name of justice and if men couldn&#039;t handle it, they should just evolve.  That was her word:  men should just evolve.  I&#039;d like to have this silly girl explain this evolution to the animals that raped Lara Logan.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t you all know that women&#8217;s lot has been hugely improved by Islam?  Arabs don&#8217;t automatically kill their baby girls any more.  Women are allowed to own property.  And hijab ensures that women will be treated with dignity, not treated like sex objects.</p>
<p>jj could not possible be more right.  There are places women just can&#8217;t go.  It&#8217;s got nothing to do with women; it has everything to do with the occupants of faraway places.</p>
<p>This reminds me of a conversation I heard on the radio quite a ways back.  I think it was the Hugh Hewitt show.  The topic was assigning women to submarine crews.  Hugh was pointing out why it was a really bad idea:  extremely close quarters, little to no privacy, and men are men.  One girl called in and said they had to let women serve on submarines in the name of justice and if men couldn&#8217;t handle it, they should just evolve.  That was her word:  men should just evolve.  I&#8217;d like to have this silly girl explain this evolution to the animals that raped Lara Logan.</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 22:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com/2010/05/15/what-is-self-defense/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com/2010/05/15/what-is-self-defense/&lt;/a&gt;
 
I wrote a post before concerning how people should assess their risk potential when making decisions.
 
Basically, you take the risk, you deal with the consequences. If you want to go anywhere, at any time, and talk to anyone, then you need to back that up with power and ability, preferably firepower.  It also helps if you are capable of killing humans with your bare hands. Not the most efficient method of human serial killing, but nobody can detect it before you use it, unlike a knife or a gun. Doesn&#039;t require being disarmed when going through metal detectors either.
 
&quot;Rights&quot; are often thought of by Americans as &quot;good things that somebody else pays for&quot;. No, in actuality, rights are only yours if you can secure those rights. They don&#039;t usually exist otherwise. And certainly not because the government promised to &quot;secure&quot; them for you. That&#039;s like the social security lockbox. YOu depend upon it at your own risk.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com/2010/05/15/what-is-self-defense/" rel="nofollow">http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com/2010/05/15/what-is-self-defense/</a><br />
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I wrote a post before concerning how people should assess their risk potential when making decisions.<br />
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Basically, you take the risk, you deal with the consequences. If you want to go anywhere, at any time, and talk to anyone, then you need to back that up with power and ability, preferably firepower.  It also helps if you are capable of killing humans with your bare hands. Not the most efficient method of human serial killing, but nobody can detect it before you use it, unlike a knife or a gun. Doesn&#8217;t require being disarmed when going through metal detectors either.<br />
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&#8220;Rights&#8221; are often thought of by Americans as &#8220;good things that somebody else pays for&#8221;. No, in actuality, rights are only yours if you can secure those rights. They don&#8217;t usually exist otherwise. And certainly not because the government promised to &#8220;secure&#8221; them for you. That&#8217;s like the social security lockbox. YOu depend upon it at your own risk.<br />
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		<title>By: Charles Martel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Martel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 21:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Forty years ago one of my best friends and traveling companions was a girl named Maggie. We used to hitchhike together up and down California, and when I wasn&#039;t around to accompany her, she&#039;d often take off on her own. Sometimes she&#039;d hop trains just to see where she might end up.

We used to call her &quot;True Grit&quot; because of her resolution and the risks she was willing to take. (Even though she was far from being a Puritan, she also reminded us a lot of the Kim Darby character in the original version of &quot;True Grit.&quot;)

Still, Maggie was a girl. Her guy friends asked her once why she ran the risk of being raped or worse on one of her solo ventures. That&#039;s when she revealed that she always wore two shirts and two pairs of pants, a corset and heavy-duty boots with an 8-inch knife sheathed in one whenever she took off solo. She acknowledged that she couldn&#039;t entirely fend off danger, but she could make it hellaciously hard for somebody to assault her. 

My point is that even a hardass like Maggie knew that if you takes your chances, you can&#039;t be surprised if you sometimes lose the wager. Unless, of course, you&#039;re a clueless dolt member of the Western media. 

(This is &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; to pooh-pooh what Lara Logan went through. My Maggie did not have to make her way through a landscape populated by emasculated, women-hating boy-men.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forty years ago one of my best friends and traveling companions was a girl named Maggie. We used to hitchhike together up and down California, and when I wasn&#8217;t around to accompany her, she&#8217;d often take off on her own. Sometimes she&#8217;d hop trains just to see where she might end up.</p>
<p>We used to call her &#8220;True Grit&#8221; because of her resolution and the risks she was willing to take. (Even though she was far from being a Puritan, she also reminded us a lot of the Kim Darby character in the original version of &#8220;True Grit.&#8221;)</p>
<p>Still, Maggie was a girl. Her guy friends asked her once why she ran the risk of being raped or worse on one of her solo ventures. That&#8217;s when she revealed that she always wore two shirts and two pairs of pants, a corset and heavy-duty boots with an 8-inch knife sheathed in one whenever she took off solo. She acknowledged that she couldn&#8217;t entirely fend off danger, but she could make it hellaciously hard for somebody to assault her. </p>
<p>My point is that even a hardass like Maggie knew that if you takes your chances, you can&#8217;t be surprised if you sometimes lose the wager. Unless, of course, you&#8217;re a clueless dolt member of the Western media. </p>
<p>(This is <em>not</em> to pooh-pooh what Lara Logan went through. My Maggie did not have to make her way through a landscape populated by emasculated, women-hating boy-men.)</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 21:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is a particularly good reason that people should be reasonable in the world towards Americans. Because if they aren&#039;t reasonable, some people are liable to put the unreasonable perps into the ground, six feet under.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a particularly good reason that people should be reasonable in the world towards Americans. Because if they aren&#8217;t reasonable, some people are liable to put the unreasonable perps into the ground, six feet under.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 21:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;&quot;And girls don’t walk into the middle of Muslim riots.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Amen, JJ, Amen.  I think the US needs to wake up to this fact: that women are NOT seen as equal to men in most of the world.  While it can be useful to emphasize that we think they are/should be, it can be a dangerous thing to assume that others will think like we do.

It can especially be dangerous for the women who think that they can go anywhere or do anything a man can just because the Western world allows them the same equality as men.

And you do not need to go outside the US to see this - several years ago women were assaulted in New York during the Puerto Rican Day parade. What the hell kind of a mother raises her sons to be that way?  I wish I knew the answer.

Danny:  &lt;em&gt;&quot;I am sure that that CBS reporter that just got raped had reasoned to herself that she could reason herself out of any situation because, hey, all people are reasonable…right? I hate to say it, but I suspect Daniel Pearl had the same problem.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Yes, I could tell several stories of Americans who thought the same way and were surprised that things didn&#039;t work out the way they expected.  Fortunately, none of my stories end in death or even violence where someone got seriously injured.  But I know several women who did get harassed because, as you say, they thought they could be reasonable and others would be reasonable too. When the reality is that &quot;reasonablemness&quot; should tell you to not be there in the first place.

Lastly, there have been recent reports that the Peace Corps has had a problem with covering up rapes of several of its volunteers over the years.  I think these rapes were more of the same mindset - women can go anywhere it would be safe to send a man.  And we can see the result of such ignorance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;And girls don’t walk into the middle of Muslim riots.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Amen, JJ, Amen.  I think the US needs to wake up to this fact: that women are NOT seen as equal to men in most of the world.  While it can be useful to emphasize that we think they are/should be, it can be a dangerous thing to assume that others will think like we do.</p>
<p>It can especially be dangerous for the women who think that they can go anywhere or do anything a man can just because the Western world allows them the same equality as men.</p>
<p>And you do not need to go outside the US to see this &#8211; several years ago women were assaulted in New York during the Puerto Rican Day parade. What the hell kind of a mother raises her sons to be that way?  I wish I knew the answer.</p>
<p>Danny:  <em>&#8220;I am sure that that CBS reporter that just got raped had reasoned to herself that she could reason herself out of any situation because, hey, all people are reasonable…right? I hate to say it, but I suspect Daniel Pearl had the same problem.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Yes, I could tell several stories of Americans who thought the same way and were surprised that things didn&#8217;t work out the way they expected.  Fortunately, none of my stories end in death or even violence where someone got seriously injured.  But I know several women who did get harassed because, as you say, they thought they could be reasonable and others would be reasonable too. When the reality is that &#8220;reasonablemness&#8221; should tell you to not be there in the first place.</p>
<p>Lastly, there have been recent reports that the Peace Corps has had a problem with covering up rapes of several of its volunteers over the years.  I think these rapes were more of the same mindset &#8211; women can go anywhere it would be safe to send a man.  And we can see the result of such ignorance.</p>
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		<title>By: SADIE</title>
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		<dc:creator>SADIE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 20:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dhimmiocracy TM (can I trade TM a word?). Once the soldiers of allah have destroyed any scent of freedom and have eliminated the remaining pesky Jews, Christians, Coptic Christians, Ba&#039;hais - they will soon return on doing what they have always done - turn on one another to see who can be more pious pus!
 
Villagers in the &lt;em&gt;bush&lt;/em&gt; leave fires burning to deter lions,  wild animals that have been imported to zoos are kept caged and household dogs are to be leashed when outside.
 
 
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0211/glick020411.php3]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dhimmiocracy TM (can I trade TM a word?). Once the soldiers of allah have destroyed any scent of freedom and have eliminated the remaining pesky Jews, Christians, Coptic Christians, Ba&#8217;hais &#8211; they will soon return on doing what they have always done &#8211; turn on one another to see who can be more pious pus!<br />
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Villagers in the <em>bush</em> leave fires burning to deter lions,  wild animals that have been imported to zoos are kept caged and household dogs are to be leashed when outside.<br />
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<a href="http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0211/glick020411.php3" rel="nofollow">http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0211/glick020411.php3</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2011/02/16/islam-and-rape/comment-page-1/#comment-115368</link>
		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 20:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Martel, Oh i&#039;m including the cesspools as well in that comment.
 
Chiron training, origin point Rory Miller/Marc MacYoung, likes choosing &quot;seedy&quot; places to start their training on. Bypasses the usual &quot;civilization&quot; idea most people have for &quot;fighting&quot;.
 
I wish the women in the US Army could get this quality training. All they get is weekly powerpoint lectures last I heard. Unfortunate given the crime incidents.
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martel, Oh i&#8217;m including the cesspools as well in that comment.<br />
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Chiron training, origin point Rory Miller/Marc MacYoung, likes choosing &#8220;seedy&#8221; places to start their training on. Bypasses the usual &#8220;civilization&#8221; idea most people have for &#8220;fighting&#8221;.<br />
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I wish the women in the US Army could get this quality training. All they get is weekly powerpoint lectures last I heard. Unfortunate given the crime incidents.<br />
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		<title>By: SADIE</title>
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		<dc:creator>SADIE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 20:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[MacG
 
When you find the button, please send it to the RoP, Happy to pay the postage ;
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MacG<br />
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When you find the button, please send it to the RoP, Happy to pay the postage ;<br />
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		<title>By: MacG</title>
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		<dc:creator>MacG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 20:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really should read the whole topic rather than skimming...where is that self delete button...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really should read the whole topic rather than skimming&#8230;where is that self delete button&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MacG</title>
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		<dc:creator>MacG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 20:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And now we have this squashed report about some adherants of the Religion of Peace to give credit where credit is due some Egyptian women (presumably adherants of the Religion of Peace as well)and the Egyptian Army stepped in.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/02/60-minutes-lara-logan-was-repeatedly-raped-by-egyptian-mob-yelling-jew-jew.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Larua Logan&lt;/a&gt;

Sad day indeed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And now we have this squashed report about some adherants of the Religion of Peace to give credit where credit is due some Egyptian women (presumably adherants of the Religion of Peace as well)and the Egyptian Army stepped in.</p>
<p><a href="http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/02/60-minutes-lara-logan-was-repeatedly-raped-by-egyptian-mob-yelling-jew-jew.html" rel="nofollow">Larua Logan</a></p>
<p>Sad day indeed.</p>
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