Comments on: Liberals play ostrich with facts they don’t like, and American discourse suffers

By: The Left and Its Delusions « Politics & Prosperity

The Left and Its Delusions « Politics & Prosperity — Sun, 19 Jun 2011 16:44:45 +0000

[...] Room captures my frustration with the leftist mindset. It is armor-plated with myths and slogans, and nearly [...]

By: A Thought a Day… « Politics & Prosperity

A Thought a Day… « Politics & Prosperity — Tue, 03 May 2011 21:55:13 +0000

[...] Room captures my frustration with the leftist mindset. It is armor-plated with myths and slogans, and nearly [...]

By: SADIE

SADIE — Tue, 29 Mar 2011 16:34:28 +0000

Lee Stranahan provides video and update of Pigford. It's not nice, in fact it's lousy. It’s back to business on our investigation of the Pigford story – the ongoing fraud that needs your help and attention to make it stop. The mainstream – with a few exceptions like John Stossel – are ignoring the story of the one of the biggest frauds in U.S. history because it doesn’t fit their narrative. The good guys are the real farmers who faced discrimination at the hands of the UsDA and the people, mostly conservative at this point, trying to bring their story to light. The bad guys are the trial lawyers, politicians, race hustlers and those inside the USDA who profit by lying to the public about how the Pigford settlement is a ‘victory’ for black farmers. http://biggovernment.com/lstranahan/2011/03/29/original-pigford-claimant-calls-it-one-of-the-biggest-conspiracies-against-the-u-s-treasury-ever/

By: Zachriel

Zachriel — Sat, 26 Mar 2011 15:21:39 +0000

On a thread about refusing to face facts... Zachriel: George Bush, 11/9/2010: “When we didn’t find weapons, I felt terrible about it, and sick about it and still do because a lot of the case in removing Saddam Hussein was based upon weapons of mass destruction.” http://tinyurl.com/5wesuon Ymarsakar: Like I said, that is not George Bush talking to us here. No, it's called quoting him. He even wrote it down in his memoir. "No one was more shocked or angry than I was when we didn't find weapons of mass destruction. I had a sickening feeling every time I thought about it. I still do." — George Bush, Decision Point 2010.

By: Ymarsakar

Ymarsakar — Sat, 26 Mar 2011 14:53:52 +0000

Like I said, that is not George Bush talking to us here. That is you Zach making a point using an interpretation and probably misquotation of somebody you don’t know anything about. That you have never met. Who does not consider you a friend, a trusted confidante, or even an unknown bureaucratic clerk when he was President.

Leftists like you often like to quote other people and use their authority and credentials as a surrogate for your own lack of judgment and capability. That doesn’t work against conservatives most of the time.

Unlike you, some of us know how to manipulate other people’s words. In fact, Sarah Palin’s interview was edited such that her own words were used against her to make her say and imply things that she never said or implied.

Unlike you, Zach, we are overly familiar with propaganda methods. Ignorance is no excuse for you and George W. Bush isn’t going to come riding in here on his horse to help ya out.

By: Zachriel

Zachriel — Sat, 26 Mar 2011 14:09:45 +0000

On a thread about how some people ignore even the most stubborn of facts. Ymarsakar: So you are speaking for Bush, by making him say that he admitted things he did not. George Bush, 11/9/2010: "When we didn't find weapons, I felt terrible about it, and sick about it and still do because a lot of the case in removing Saddam Hussein was based upon weapons of mass destruction." http://tinyurl.com/5wesuon

By: Ymarsakar

Ymarsakar — Sat, 26 Mar 2011 12:34:48 +0000

In response, we noted that the former President admitted that there were no significant stockpiles of WMD in Iraq. As he has a vested interest in the existence of such WMD, and as he had access to information at the highest levels, this is strong support for the claim.

So you are speaking for Bush, by making him say that he admitted things he did not. Like I said.

Until Bush comes up here, reads the topic of note, and makes a direct comment, by himself and not through a flunky or proxy, it didn’t come from Bush. And you’re not Bush, Z. What is so hard to understand about the chain of evidence or proxies here.

In the absence of such, all we can truly rely upon is the honor of one’s word. And your word, Z, is not held to high standards of respect here. It is not sufficient enough by itself.

By: Charles Martel

Charles Martel — Fri, 25 Mar 2011 21:15:31 +0000

Ymar, that would be a hoot to see a teleprompterless empty suit like Obama take on somebody with real wit and intelligence.

Not that I think he’d ever get near the nomination, but it would be a delight to watch Rudy Giuliani slice, dice and eviscerate NBOTUS (Nancy Boy of the United States). Watching The One dissolve as Rudy casts magic Dorothy water on him would be a true “Take me now, Lord” moment.

(Zach, just so you understand what I’m talking about:

Dorothy water = the contents of the slop pail that Dorothy Gale threw on the Wicked Witch of the West in “The Wizard of Oz,” a 1939 Technicolor film from MGM that was based on a popular children’s book.

Rudy Giuliani = a former mayor of New York City noted for oppressing people of color so much that the city’s crime rate inexplicably plummeted.

NBOTUS = the current president of the United States, elected by mental giants like you.

Take me now, Lord = a whimsical declaration intended to indicate great pleasure at life’s current circumstances.

English = the language that I have been schooling you in for several weeks now.)

By: Zachriel

Zachriel — Fri, 25 Mar 2011 20:45:57 +0000

Ymarsakar: I hate to tell you this Z, but George Bush ain’t here on this here forum writing anything. Nor do you speak for him.

Your point isn’t clear. We didn’t speak for Bush. We cited him. Let’s review.

This thread concerns people having troubles facing facts. We pointed out that some people have troubles acknowledging that Saddam had disarmed his WMD. A commenter indicated this was a “Big Lie”. In response, we noted that the former President admitted that there were no significant stockpiles of WMD in Iraq. As he has a vested interest in the existence of such WMD, and as he had access to information at the highest levels, this is strong support for the claim.

Ymarsakar: Right here you see an example of Z defending Iraq and Saddam’s lack of committal to following their promise to disarm.

With the help of you and the previous commenter, we can see how some people have trouble facing facts.

By: Charles Martel

Charles Martel — Fri, 25 Mar 2011 20:13:15 +0000

Zach, just so you don’t exhaust yourself running around looking up my allusions:

Qom = a holy city in Iran

12th Imam = a Shi’ite hero said to be next in licit succession to Mohammed the Pederast (pbuh)

Mahdi = The magical Christ-like figure who will bring Allah’s wonderful peace upon the earth