Sweden commits suicide, in the ugliest possible way

A country that happily allows the rape and destruction of its women, and that kills and hunts down its Jews, is a dead country:

Condell calls it the “open theft of an entire country,” but is it really theft if you voluntarily surrender your goods?

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  • http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com Ymarsakar

    For a relative new student to H2H training, I would start them off slow on the physical contact. Many good instructors won’t introduce total newbies to any kind of sparring, due to accidents or negative experiences. For many people, it takes time to prepare them for physical contact so they don’t get a negative experience from it.

    Thus many instructors prepare you by gradually upping the physical contact, until you get to light sparring and then to full contact sparring at 50% power.

    Humans, because they’re humans, tend to have ego issues and sometimes you will have big trouble when one person fights another in a spar. That’s up for the school master to deal with using discipline. If a person doesn’t follow the rules for the spar, he’s in violation. If a person makes a mistake by applying too much power, he should apologize and make it clear it wasn’t on purpose. 

    Any BJJ or tournament based martial arts system will have sparring in due time, unless they’re like full of people who don’t want to feel any pain or discomfort and are all in the “entertainment” section.

    And even if the school forbids sparring, that doesn’t really mean anything since you can just ask for a personal 1 on 1 from the instructors themselves. Most of the issues come from students sparring with each other.

  • http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com Ymarsakar

    TKD from what I have seen from various practitioners, most of them whom I communicated with on Y!Answers, is broken up into WTF and ITF are two primary organizations for TKD. The WTF was formed with training to compete with the Olympics in mind so their training and forms are a bit different than ITF. The ITF is a bit more of a mixed bag.

    The training they are undertaking is often with competition in mind. Even if a WTF student transfers to an ITF branch, this kind of inconsistency would make it hard for them to adapt.

    Competition and MMA matches are pretty much the opposite spectrum of learning how to win kill or be killed situations.

    I would have to make note of many training changes if a person wanted to learn both MMA rule fights and the other stuff.

  • http://bookwormroom.com Bookworm

    Danny is absolutely right about the muscle memory that comes with actually hitting someone.  Hitting a back is a very different emotional feeling from hitting a person — and that’s true despite the fact that I hit the back full strength, whereas I would never dream of going after a sparring partner full strength.  Nevertheless, have a sense of an opposing body in motion is an inextricable part of being a true fighter.

    Ymarsakar is right, though, that, if self-defense is your goal, you also need to learn down and dirty fighting, without the ritual.  (Although I will say that MMA has less ritual than other martial arts.)  I heard a funny story about overtraining with courtesy.  It used to be that police officers who trained as weapons disarmament (i.e., grabbing a knife or gun from an opponent’s hand) during training would courteously hand back to the partner the phony that they’d just fought over.  Stories starting trickling back, however, of cops who would successfully wrestle a weapon away from a bad guy, only to revert to muscle memory, and hand it right back to him.  Training now requires one to hang onto the weapon (shoving it into clothes or backing up), or to throw the weapon away.

    I’ve found martial arts extremely rewarding.  It’s exercise with a purpose that transcends physical beauty or good health.  You get both of those (if physical beauty includes lots of bruises, and good health ignores perpetually sore muscles), but you also get a feeling of purpose.  You end up with a sense that you “own” space you occupy, and that you’re not going to cede that space to any old bully that comes along.

    Because I’m a very petite woman, I’ve realized that, should a 200 lb man be bound and determined to subdue me, he’d probably be successful.  I operate on the gazelle theory, though.  The lion isn’t targeting a specific gazelle, he’s targeting the easy gazelle.  Thanks to my martial arts training, I am no longer the easy gazelle.

    One more thing about self-defense:  it doesn’t start with the physical fight.  The physical fight is the end of the self-defense procedure.  Self-defense starts with preventing a physical attack in the first place.  This occurs through body confidence (a walk that is alert and aware, etc.), and often continues through verbal self-defense, which either defuses a volatile situation or makes the predator aware that you’re not the easy gazelle.

  • http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com Ymarsakar

    Given that Book is using someone’s back as a heavy bag and going full force, I can’t believe that she’d be the easy gazelle. 

    Hitting a back is a very different emotional feeling from hitting a person — and that’s true despite the fact that I hit the back full strength, whereas I would never dream of going after a sparring partner full strength.

    Remember, if you turn your back on her, she’ll go full up on ya! What terrifying power!

  • http://bookwormroom.com Bookworm

    Oy.  Ymarsakar caught me.  I meant, of course, “Hitting back,” not “hitting a back.”  Although one of the things one learns in jiujitsu is how to take someone’s back — and then to choke them, of course.  ;)

  • Mike Devx

    To a certain extent, all scenario and sparring training is “systematized” and “controlled”. The issue is not with whether there are safety rules in training, of course there are. The issue is how realistic can you make the training for the reality one is supposed to be training for.

    This academy certainly did emphasize repetition and drill and muscle memory, etc.  And much of the students’ work is in a pair:  one-on-one “sparring”.   Not stand-up techniques, but on-the-floor techniques of suppressing your opponent.  It looked effective.  I recommend Brazilian jiu-jitsu, definitely,  though I’m not choosing it!  It’s just not what I’m looking for.

  • http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com Ymarsakar

    I’m curious Mike, what would you say you are looking for? Say you had a list of 5 or 10 things and you had to order them from most important to least important. What would you put down?

  • Danny Lemieux

    MikeD – I admire Brazilian jiu-jitsu but, like you, it’s not for me. I began the martial arts with Jude at the tender age of 16. We did a lot of grappling work back then, but the idea of men in sweaty embrace with each other was just not for me. Much more fun to break boards with one’s hands.

    Take a look at Aikido, though. I think you might find it fascinating, being a man of intellect an all. There’s a smooth, harmonic beauty to it. Only studied it for a year but learned an amazing amount. May go back to it some day.

  • http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com Ymarsakar

    but the idea of men in sweaty embrace with each other was just not for me.

    Danny, so if you had more women like Jude to practice grappling with back then, would you have continued on?

    (tongue in cheek)

    The training format TFT utilizes is composed of a few elements.

    1. No talking. You are not to see the other target as a person but a bunch of targets to access. This is not socialization. This is ending a human that you no longer wish to socialize with, ever again.

    2. Don’t talk to get yourself ready. Don’t warn people you are ready. Begin your attack where you are. Regardless of what posture you are in or whether you are standing up or prone. Do not get up and then attack. Attack from where you are at.

    3. 100% accuracy is produced by 100% control with exact physical movements and timings. Fast is slow, and slow is fast. Thus this is one of the safest training mediums around, even though the attacks it teaches are the most dangerous in aggregate across the entire field of H2H potentials. It’s safe because it is dangerous.

    P.S. Judo has very useful falling techniques. once you ingrain that knowledge in your body, it can save your life if you should be launched from your car at 60 mph and you broke through your windshield. Strangely enough, that’s exactly what has happened to several (drunk) US military members that knew Judo and were driving (while drinking) really fast. Going at 45 MPH and hitting something won’t kill em, but it would have broken their bones and scrapped their skin off if they had hit at the wrong angle once they got launched outside. And if they had landed on their neck, they’d been paralyzed.

  • Mike Devx

    At the start, I’d have listed them as:
    1. Self-defense, because you never know when you’re going to need it.
    2. Physical fitness via a directed program.  Self-initiative hasn’t been working.
    3.  Confidence  (as in the general social confidence via the self-sufficiency gained)
     
    Now, I would list it as:
    1. Physical fitness via a directed program.  Must involve a lot of physical movement
    2. Self defense techniques for the discipline and learning
    3. Confidence
    4. Self defense itself, just in case I ever need it.

    I decided fitness was most important.  

    I broke out self-defense into two parts because it seems that I’m unlikely to ever need to put self-defense into effect.  I’m never in dangerous situations.  Where I live/work, the people I know, my lifestyle and interests…  It shocked me when I realized I don’t think I’ve even observed an angry person in I don’t know how many years? Five? Seven?  I used to run with a dangerous, very unstable crowd twenty years ago, for a few years, and there was quite a bit of trouble and dangerous situations back then…   Perhaps trouble draws trouble.

    It’s true, I can envision a lot of scenarios where I would need to rely on self-defense techniques, either for myself or to intervene to help someone else, but nothing that appears likely to actually occur.  But accidents and terrible things and trouble *can* happen.  No one is immune.  So it’s good to be prepared.

  • http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com Ymarsakar

    Preparation is a good attitude to have in my view. Like insurance, except more catastrophic.

    Marc MacYoung noted that violent people tended to create violent incidents around them. Which is why criminals often don’t last long in the underworld. They basically eat each other sooner or later. 

  • http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com Ymarsakar

    One of the interesting stories I heard from an acquaintance concerns sparring in JKD. JKD is based off of arnis/escrima combined with some of Bruce Lee’s philosophy. Thus it seeks to combine powerful attacks with external martial arts whether melee armed or not. This tends to mean that they get people from all over. It just so happened that my acquaintance moved around a lot and went to 3 different JKD places to train. At all of them, there was one noticeable sparring incident, with each resulting in an injury requiring medical attention.

    Basically these spars aren’t real fights and thus certain targets are off limits and you don’t go full force but moderate your strength. The three were 2 black belts, one in TKD, and another blue belt in BJJ. Both were facing off against my acquaintance in question, who did not have formal credentials or belt ranks. Thus they felt they could easily outmatch my acquaintance. However, he was trained as a fire security enlisted in a submarine, which is to say they received some CQB training from SEAL members. This job is very important on a nuclear sub because you need to be able to physically stop people from getting to the warhead compartment and the reactor compartment when they aren’t authorized to do so. Failure to do so, or attempting to use firearms, can have extremely negative consequences. Submarines don’t like hull breaches when submerged and they sure don’t like outputting sonar pulses while running silent. All things which would tend to happen if people started firing off guns inside. He also had real life experience in violent confrontations, as he lived in a poor area mostly when growing up.

    So the black belts and the blue belts, believed they should easily overcome this person without any official status or recognition, in a JKD spar. When that didn’t happen, they became frustrated. Then the peanut gallery (the other JKD students) starter snickering and making light of the ability and skill of the black belts, the 3 in question (at different locations and times) started going all out, for pride and social status. These were in their 20s, btw, mostly.

    The result, as you know, became predictable. My acquaintance damaged the solar plexus/diaphram of one guy, body slammed the knees of another and damaged the ligaments there requiring medical surgery, and broke the ribs of the last one with a power shot fist utilizing the fact that the foe was charging in, adding momentum to momentum.

    This is why TFT wisely tells students to make sure their mouths are used only for breathing, not talking or laughing. It’s a safety regulation.

    The JKD training facility was covered by insurance and those disclosure things you sign about not suing people for damages caused by accidents or what not. Since the JKD trainers saw what happened in the spar, and in 2 out of 3 incidents they were warned to tone it down in sparring, no legal ramifications resulted.

    But as you can see, that’s far more trouble than you may usually see, certainly if you are in an environment like Mike’s. This is why training methodology is a skill completely different from actually applying H2H attacks using skill. There are many things which are required for student and instructor safety and many training methods that are better or worse than the alternatives. Figuring them out, is what separates great instructors from mediocre ones.