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  1. dustoffmom says

    He has some baggage that’s true, some ‘splaining to do.  But I felt much better about things this afternoon than I did earlier this morning.  At a minimum he can generate some true excitement and get folks blood pumping.  Something thus far none of the others have accomplished.  And for me….I’ll take a good ole Texan over any university liberal any day of the week.  I tend to think and hope you are absolutely correct Bookworm!

  2. cpaman says

    unfortunately, obama will be re-elected.   they will turn the texas govenor  into a wacko Christian.  It will be very ugly.  Get ready for some depressing events.

  3. says

    “they will turn the texas govenor  into a wacko Christian”

    Yep. Evidently, large numbers of secular people consider a serious Christian to be more of a threat than even those most violence-oriented, Sharia-advocting extremist Muslim. Not a religious person myself, but I find this orientation bizarre. It is, however, a political reality.

  4. says

    It’s a basic displacement defense mechanism, Foster. If you hate how you are treated by your boss, you don’t get angry at your boss, but at a weak co-worker or subordinate you can pound into the sand instead.

     

  5. Cheesestick says

    Appreciate the optimism and I hope you are right.  But I’m not going to be deluded into thinking this will be an easy fight.  There is a lot working in our favor in this coming election….and plenty of time for the left to chip away at it.

  6. Mike Devx says

    The left media machine will paint Perry as intolerant and extreme.  They’ll also accuse him of any number of minor “political crimes” that they will blow out of proportion, and from that, implicitly or explicitly make the case that he is unfit to be President.  They will never do this to any liberal candidate on their side.

    The question is, will the American People fall for these tactics (again)?  There’s increasing evidence that these tactics are failing.  Or at least, not working with nearly the same effectiveness they used to.  You can sense the dismay on the left as their rich toolbox empties of useful tools.  ”Our usual tactics aren’t working anymore!  Whatever are we going to do?”

    It will be an interesting election!  Omama has a LOT of money to throw around to muddle things up, to confuse and distract.  I bet the key campaign strategy concerning that 20% in the middle will be:
    A. Switch to Conservatism.  Because we’re right.  Become a conservative!
    B. In this particular election, just vote for the conservative guy.  Not because he’s conservative.  But because he’s better this time than the alternative.

    The first is ideological and can lead to a lasting political realignment.  After all, it’s not just Obama that sucks, it’s the whole liberal philosophy that he represents to an extent we’ve rarely seen.  This is a golden opportunity to make people aware that it’s liberalism that’s to blame.  Obama is the avatar of liberalism.  We’ll probably never have such a perfect opportunity to make the case.

    The second is utilitarian and pragmatic.  It wins this particular election without changing the rules of the game itself very much.

    As a “political calculus” question I find it compelling which way the Republican nominee will go.  Especially when confronted with the reality of Obama’s huge war chest and the mainstream media’s ability to tilt the playing field.  Maybe you campaign to win with “B”, and only once you win and are in office, put on the full-court press of “A”.

     

  7. Mike Devx says

    kidkaroo, I read the link you provided, and yes indeedee, it is starting.  The only direct connection they could provide was this:

    On Saturday, Perry helped organize and spoke at a controversial seven-hour Christian prayer rally in Houston called “The Response: A Call to Prayer for a Nation in Crisis.”

    Perry is a strong conservative and is religious.  He supports most religious groups in Texas because he values religious expression.  As with Palin, over these years here in Texas Perry has never rammed his religious views down anyone’s throats.  He doesn’t legislate “religiously”.  He’s merely highly supportive.  This succeeds politically in Texas; whether such strong religious support can succeed across the entire USA is a question.  He’s vulnerable therefore to a political attack that he’s a religious extremist.

    So he “helped organize” the convention of a very conservative religious group, and “spoke” at it.  What other religious groups has he supported this year?  Where else has he “spoke”?  In what ways did he help organize, and what was the nature of his “speech”?  Did he merely welcome them to Houston, as an introductory speaker and representative of the state?

    From the tone of that article, you’d think Perry had “helped organize” and “spoke” at a convention of child molesters.  Or communists.  No, that last would be Obama. 
     

  8. Zhombre says

    Knives will be unsheathed.  Dirt dug up.  This is shaping up to be the nastiest, most contentious and most expensive Presidential campaign in  history.

  9. Cheesestick says

    I agree the Amy Goodman article and the TX Observer article it referenced are not looking good, but don’t forget, if the Dems want to put religious beliefs, practices and associations on the table, they have a lot to fear from their own guy.  Not that this will deter the media from playing the double standard but it’s not like we are out of ammo on that issue. 

  10. suek says

    You know, Cheesestick…
     
    I’m not sure that the Christian Right hasn’t reached a point where they feel they’ve turned the other cheek often enough and are ready to use everything at hand to turn back the tides.  I’m getting that feeling.  Whereas prior to this, it was polite to be fairly silent about one’s faith, people are starting to stand up and take a position of “here I stand”.  They are beginning to see that there are “fervent” atheists who want to interpret freedom _of_ religion to freedom _from_ religion, and they (the Christians) will be the losers.
     
    Not sure of this, but just a feeling I’m getting…

  11. Cheesestick says

    I agree Suek and had another thought too just a few minutes ago.  Rick Perry is not an unknown the way Obama was.  Those of us that already know him are not going to have to wonder how his religion will affect his ability to govern.  They won’t be able to point to a single thing that should scare away non-religious voters.  That’s not to say they won’t try, but I don’t think they will be nearly as effective as they think. 

  12. Michael Adams says

    Remember, before MM O’Hair, there was no Religious Right. There were believers, and nonbelievers, and believers rarely ate the nonbelievers, and almost never without salt.  A minority of a minority were mightily annoyed that a large majority went about their business as if they were the majority.
     
    The Religious Right arose in reaction to the secularization of our bourgeois society, precisely because the chief movers and shakers of the antireligious movement were motivated by their belief that religious influence was an underpinning of the  bourgeoisie, and thus needed to be neutralized, if not eliminated.

  13. Cheesestick says

    Well, I think it is important to remember that we need to win hearts for the right reason. Not just for a show of force.  But a little more spine and a little muscle from the religious right would not be a bad thing in my opinion.  

  14. Cheesestick says

    Ymarsakar
    The Religious Right is not experienced enough in muscle to be muscling anything.”
     
    Seriously?  Mind you, I was not talking about thuggery and/or intimidation that we see from the left.  

  15. suek says

    >>Mind you, I was not talking about thuggery and/or intimidation that we see from the left. >>

    But the Right – and especially the Religious Right – is accustomed to taking the last place, to not being confrontational. The Left and their minorities have bullied the Right into allowing them whatever they wanted, because we were supposed to compromise. We’re in real danger of being compromised out of existence. The question is whether we’ll be able to draw a line in the sand and stand firm without succumbing to that golden virtue of compromise.

    Compromise to a Lefty means that the Right gives up 50%, and the Lefty gives up nothing – or gives up something Tuesday which he takes back on Monday.

    Will the Right be able to do that?

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