No matter how you read the Second Amendment, it comes up favoring guns in citizens’ hands

Guns are the great equalizer — and nobody on the Left likes equality.  This is why the Left twists itself in knots to avoid the implications of the 2nd Amendment.  Here are Penn & Teller with one interpretation:

There’s a differing interpretation of the 2nd Amendment that also sees the comma being just as important.  During the 18th century, a militia was a people’s army, as opposed to a government’s standing army. Under that understanding, the 2nd amendment reads, “Because a people’s army is absolutely vital to protect individuals from a government’s standing army, the government may not take people’s weapons away.”  Considering that the newly founded United States had just fought a war in which the people’s militia turned its guns on Britain’s standing army, it’s not a stretch, either grammatically, historically, or vocabulary-ily, to appreciate that the language says what it means and means what it says.

Either way, the 2nd Amendment is as clear as clear can be.

As regular readers know, back in my liberal days, I was totally for gun control, a feat I managed simply by ignoring the 2nd amendment, or by saying that our government-controlled army was “a well regulated militia” (which still didn’t deal with that comma). By 9/11, I’d pretty much changed my views, but the nail in the coffin for me when it came to turning my back on gun control was Hurricane Katrina. I finally figured out then that law abiding citizens must be able to protect themselves. Also, I’d finally figured out that, in places with strict gun control, law-abiding citizens morphed into fish packed tightly in barrels, just waiting for the criminal class to come and pick them off.

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  • Oldflyer

    With our move to California fast approaching, I reflect on what we will gain and what we will lose.
    We will, of course, gain lovely winter weather.  Balmy temps in the 70s and even 80s.  No more jeans, jackets, all weather shoes.  Hello, shorts, golf shirts and sandals.  Of course I do recall that my daughter lost her home in a mud slide just over a year ago.
    No more 5% sale tax.  Now it will be 7.5% or whatever Moonbeam needs.  No more 5% income tax.  I have no idea what it will be.  No more gas at less than $3.50/gal–Thanks Obama for sending that Canadian oil to China.  Who wants it?
     
    I think what I will miss the most is my concealed weapons permit.  No, I very seldom carry–occasionally on the floor of the car if we are heading to unknown environs.  But the point is that I know I can carry it if I want to.  Very satisfying; a very secure feeling.  Every once in awhile I stick my revolver in my pocket when I go out about town just to exercise my rights.  Can’t ignore them or they will disappear.
     
    Ever notice that language can be really important? Of course you have, Book, being a lawyer and all.  In Virginia, the County Sheriff must issue you a permit if you fulfill the requirements and there is no justification  to deny it.  In California, the Sheriff may issue a permit.  You have to justify the need for one.  Of course they seldom issue, except to friends, family, contributors and such.
     
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  • http://furtheradventuresofindigored.blogspot.com/ Indigo Red

    1967, I was in 8th grade and the local VFW came to the US History classes to hand out booklets of the Constitution and Declaration of Independence. The teacher assigned us to memorize the Preamble which I did and then went on to read the whole document and then memorize the first two paragraphs of the DoI. We discussed the Constitution and the opening of the Revolution and the tteacher asked why the British went to Lexington and Concord. Others tried an answer, but were only partially right. The teacher then called upon me. My political views were not yet formed and even though I went with the flow of my Liberal/Democrat friends in ’72 when 18 yr olds could vote, I still fully understood my first interpretation of the 2nd Amendment to be correct.

    When the British marched out of Boston April 1775 to Lexington and Concord, they weren’t going to put down a rebellion as there was, as yet, no rebellion to put down. The orders were to confiscate or destroy the King’s arsenal and the King’s arms that had been stored in those towns since the French and Indian War. The Crown left the arms and powder behind in case Colonists needed to defend themselves from wild savages while awaiting arrival of the British Regulars, but the weapons did not belong to the Colonials; at all times, the weapons were the property of King George III and the British Crown, but the Colonists asserted the King hadprovided the arms for self defense and had a right to use the weapons in any time of need no matter the source of the need.

     
    It was because of the Crown’s confiscatory action that the peoples right to keep and bear arms was written into the 2nd Amendment. There is no other conceivable reason any fledgling government would guarantee such a right if they had not had experience with unarmed, naked defense. The Left argues even if the people do have the right to bear arms, the people do not have the right to the same arms as the well regulated militia. That, too, is nonsense as the weapons contained in the King’s armories at Lexington and Concord were, in fact, the weapons of the well regulated militia with which the people armed themselves so effectively. The Framers were well aware of this just as they were aware the people did not have specialized weapons; they had one general use musket for hunting birds and animals, for self defense and war. To restrict that one weapon to use in war would have left those on the frontier and in other outlying areas vulnerable to deadly dangers that could be mitigated by force of arms and the Founders were clear when their reasoning included the need for armed protection from an over reaching government.

    I want my right to be armed if I so choose which I do not, as yet, choose to be. The Second Amendment says I and the The People have the right to be armed and says so very clearly.

  • bizcor

    I too attended school before the indoctrination began and we also memorized the Declaration of Independance as well as the Preamble to the Constitution. Today I am afraid unless they are taught at home or in a private school these documents are given a perfunctory nod and then it is on to Global Warming and The Wall Street Villians.

    • http://bookwormroom.com Bookworm

      Oldflyer: I’ve spent most of my life in California. I stay primarily because of the temperate climate. Also, after having lived in the same neighborhood for my kids’ lifespans, I’m very integrated here in my little Leave-It-To-Beaverville, and don’t want to rock the boat. Having said that, I think it’s crazy to move here. This state is going to Hell in a hand basket, and quickly too.

      Indigo Red and bizcor: I think the prevailing feeling at American schools is “Constitution? What Constitution? That’s so yesterday.”

  • http://furtheradventuresofindigored.blogspot.com/ Indigo Red

    As Lincoln might have said, “That is soooo fourscore and seven years ago.”

  • Oldflyer

    Book, it is simple–grandchildren.  The twins are the youngest at 15–and heavily involved in high school athletics.  Grandparents have 151 years between us.   Resisted for years; resistance is futile, and actually becomes silly when the clock is inexorably ticking.  No less powerful motivation would do it. 

  • Danny Lemieux

    And in more news, Chicago Mayor and Obama thug Rahm Emanuel wants to establish a state-wide handgun registry in Illinois so that his goons can collect handguns from gang members at will. Seriously. 

    http://www.cdobs.com/archive/featured/democrats-take-break-from-attacking-first-amendment-set-sights-on-second-amendment/

    This, incidentally, is from the same administration for which it was recently exposed that Party Leaders regularly cut cozy private deals with those very same gang members. As the saying goes, birds of a feather.

     http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/January-2012/Gangs-and-Politicians-An-Unholy-Alliance/

    Those of us that live here have long known that the Chicago gangs and drug trade will never be broken, because the Chicago and Illinois powers that be depend upon them for their political power and the drug trade transfers wealth and political power from the suburbs to the inner cities The drive-by shootings and little kids gunned down by random shootings are simply collateral damage, worthy of self-righteous speeches by the Ruling Class and not much else. I suspect that these attempts at gun control are really means of clearing out the local opposition to gang power and that, if passed, they will be enforced very selectively.

    This is Obama’s America, soon coming to a neighborhood near you. 

  • Jose

    From Danny’s first article:
    “The mayor said requiring handgun owners to register particular weapons would reduce the flow of illegal guns into Chicago from around the state by making it easier for police to figure out where they came from.”
     
    I thought the mayor’s buddies just tried that in Arizona.  Maybe it will work better this time…

  • Danny Lemieux

    …and maybe the guns will be sent to Chicago-land from the Mexican government, Jose. Fair is fair. 

  • jj

    I’ve spent so much time in California that there’s just no possibility I’ll ever actually live there, but I understand the urge.  I have family and friends – good ones – all over LA County, and the weather’s certainly nice.  The problem is, I think it’s so nice that it eventually rots your brains.  The average denizen of LA is just hopeless – and useless.  Social engineers, social workers, lawyers, community organizers, they don’t know how to do anything except generate paperwork, 98% of which is make-work.  Whenever you actually need something practical or useful done, a leaky faucet fixed, the lawn mowed, the cracked foundation repaired, a new roof, your car’s AC fixed, your crops planted – you get a Mexican.  Nobody in LA seems to have the capability of doing anything for themselves, and if you don’t take an interpreter with you to Home Depot you aren’t going to be able to get what you need if you should want to try.
     
    Which is, by the way, not just really stupid, but really dangerous.  I suspect that most lumber yards and Home Depots in LA County already have two entirely separate price structures; one for the dumb-ass Anglos who go in and have only the vaguest idea of what the hell they’re trying to do, and another for those who can go into the back and actually have a conversation with the guys who work there.  They come out with what they really want, and probably pay less.  Ditto the hardware stores, ditto the gun stores, and ditto the LA cops, most of whom are more at home in Spanish than they are in English.  Whose side are they going to be on when the excrement hits the cooling system?  Having two entirely separate societies, living life on two entirely separate levels, speaking two entirely separate languages, cannot – in the long run – be a good thing.  It’s no more sustainable than 18th century France was, and LA County is mostly Marie Antoinettes.  I am experienced enough with California to be in complete agreement with Bookworm.
     
    But the weather’s nice, yeah.  A cousin in Burbank tells me it’s been so nice down south there’s no damn water – again – because it’s only rained a couple of times this rainy season.  So water will be subject to restricted uses again this coming summer, and will cost a bomb.
     
    And no, you can’t arm yourself – if you try to actually be law-abiding and do it through legal channels.  The gun-control idiots haven’t yet seemed to have twigged to the fundamental fact of human behavior that laws only work if you’re law-abiding.  If you don’t give a damn about the law, getting a gun’s a snap in LA.  Which is why the guys who break into houses and rob people all have them – and the home-owners all have forks from the kitchen drawer with which to defend themselves.  (Though it doesn’t surprise me that California can’t figure this out.  It’s apparently too hard for even some countries – England and Australia spring instantly to mind – to figure out.)
     
    Nice weather and proximity to family is what you have to gain, Flyer.  Everything else – all of it – will be a loss.  Every single thing you buy will cost more.  Every single thing you try to do with your property will be more complicated, take longer – and cost more.  Set up trusts and distribute your estate before you die, too, because California will also help itself to a chunk of that.  It is indeed an amazing place.   

  • Danny Lemieux

    I could not live in California (as I am stuck in Illinois, which is equally dysfunctional), but I certainly love visiting there.

    California is becoming like Greece. Broke, and socially divided between a wealthy, oligarchical class and downtrodden, ignorant peasantry that survives through a black market economy. California, in effect, is slowly reverting to what it was under the Spanish.

    Illinois is in a neck-to-neck race with California to the bottom of the latrine pit of economic history. I would like to think that, for now, Illinois is in the lead. Unfortunately, we don’t have the romance of Spanish-American history to fall back upon. Our’s is more a history of roving bands of French explorers and bloody, all-too-bloody Indian wars. Come to think of it, that’s the history of Detroit, too. Hmmm…I think I see our future more clearly now.