Comments on: Except for the semantic giveaway indicating comfort with “brainwashing”, there’s nothing wrong with Holder’s 1995 speech about guns

By: Ymarsakar

Ymarsakar — Wed, 21 Mar 2012 06:32:34 +0000

Fast and Furious was also started under Bush. The same people that say that we have limited resources and shouldn’t worry about Obama’s Executive Orders, are taking the Left lightly, to say the least. Did they predict what the Left would do with Fast and Furious? And they think they can predict what the Left will do with their new and improved EO, one that took work to write and implement, whereas Obama is lazy as hell and can’t even it get up long enough to get Congress to declare war on Libya?

By: Ymarsakar

Ymarsakar — Wed, 21 Mar 2012 06:30:59 +0000

EngSoc was about controlling thought, not language. Even in Chicago, home of Obama and the Brave Democrats, teenagers that make Straight As get beat on the head with a 4 by 4 and killed. And the mob bosses there look on while they’re counting the gold coins in their pockets.

By: Raven

Raven — Wed, 21 Mar 2012 04:39:39 +0000

I have to disagree also. I live in a very liberal state where law-abiding citizens are TERRIFIED to have guns in their homes, especially with children. We’ve allowed ourselves to be subtly “brainwashed” into thinking we don’t really need guns ~ that they’re too dangerous to have. Stories filled the media of tragic “accidents” involving children ~ the result of “irresponsible parents & gun owners.” Even our attitudes about buying “toy guns” for our children changed. All this was very subtle “conditioning” brought on by a liberal media. It was about our children’s safety & being a well-informed responsible parent.
Holder is a “progressive.” He has an agenda: to disarm all law-abiding citizens. We all know criminals can get guns quite easily. Holder’s using “the children” as a way of changing people’s attitudes about guns, so that CITIZENS will no longer have them. It has become very difficult & expensive to get a gun permit here.
According to the Constitution, ALL CITIZENS have the “right” to bear arms. Why? To PROTECT our lives, our families & our property. So why all the gun laws? The permits? The fees? The waiting period? The government has no business knowing who has guns ~PERIOD. Only violent criminals & the criminally insane should be disarmed.
Holder mentioned smoking & how attitudes about smoking have changed ~ as well as our “attitudes” TOWARDS smokers. Was that part of the intent also? It’s not just about changing bad “behaviors” but changing our “attitudes” about a select group of people as well. That can be a dangerous thing. A form of CONTROL that the government has over its people.
Every state isn’t the same. Those who live in remote areas and can’t rely on 911 in an emergency and have to protect themselves. And GUN CONTROL by the Justice Dept is what Fast & Furious was all about!

By: Ymarsakar

Ymarsakar — Tue, 20 Mar 2012 13:15:39 +0000

This is much like the issue with Obama’s EO about “martial law” and “emergencies”. Everything the Left does is to set up Final Hour. Nothing they do is “harmless”. It is always a chess move that 100 years later, will be used as a weapon even if nobody realized it could ever be used as a weapon.

The only reason why Republicans and conservatives care about “credibility” is because they think this is still about a debate, an issue that is based upon convincing people to side with one over another. The Left long ago discarded that paradigm. A war isn’t necessarily going to use credibility for much of anything. Successes on the battlefield are one’s credibility, and that’s all one needs for the most part.

By: socratease

socratease — Tue, 20 Mar 2012 03:32:04 +0000

I disagree. Call me old-fashioned, but I thought the job of a District Attorney was to prosecute criminals, not to leverage his elected office in order to change society. There’s a word for when the government uses the public treasury to publish material and its influence to warp popular media in order to mold society in a way it finds advantageous: Propaganda. One has to wonder just which other Constitutional Rights AG Holder thinks the government should bend its resources to persuading people from exercising.

To a large extent, the popular image of guns and gun ownership is the product of the liberal outlook and its policies which has brought us to the point where the image of a person with a gun brings to mind only one of two possibilities: a cop, or a criminal. The image of a peaceful, law-abiding gun owner has disappeared from popular fiction, and laws about the ownership, purchase, storage, and use of guns has followed the same path. In my area gun stores have been driven out of business, and the ones left are zoned like they were porn shops. Liberals like Holder have been successful in largely removing the gun culture from its historical place as a part of normal American life, along with the social pressure it produced which counseled owners towards safe and peaceful exercises, and now liberals complain about what they have left.

By: Danny Lemieux

Danny Lemieux — Tue, 20 Mar 2012 00:31:16 +0000

I agree with you, Book. Our side loses credibility when we take comments from the other side out of context and try to get people worked up about them. There is so much of real concern to focus upon regarding this administration without trying to make stuff up.

By: Ymarsakar

Ymarsakar — Tue, 20 Mar 2012 00:18:27 +0000

Evil bureaucrats should be 1. killed 2. removed

By: Mike Devx

Mike Devx — Mon, 19 Mar 2012 23:00:55 +0000

Nice one, SimpleMind! I like the dialogue with the “generic” Lackey! There’s plenty more fun to be had with that one! Not just with Holder. It works for Obama, it works for Napolitano… it works for them all!

By: Simplemind

Simplemind — Mon, 19 Mar 2012 19:51:44 +0000

HOLDER: (Thinking aloud) Hey maybe we should brainwash people with the whole Thou Shalt Not Kill “meme”. That intrinsic value of human life thing . . .

Lackey: Isn’t that one of the Ten Commandments?

HOLDER: Oh wait, can’t do that now can we. Separation of Church and State. So, how bout we focus only on the instrumentality, rather than the actor?

Lackey: ???

HOLDER: Guns are bad M’kay.

Lackey: Got it. No guns. No problems. I think things were pretty peaceful in the dark ages right?

Holder; Shut up.