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	<title>Comments on: If you ever needed proof that Obama&#8217;s &#8220;Vote with your private parts&#8221; appeal to women worked:</title>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 04:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the primary reason the Democrats like to generate anti-American hatred is mostly because they need to find a foreign enemy for the masses to hate. They can&#039;t act like Hitler, fascism, or the Soviets, because they don&#039;t really care about hating some outside foreign group, so they settle on old, ancient, white America. Which they&#039;re going to destroy anyways since the Constitution is in their way.

However, this is just a smoke screen, a magician trick, because the loyal Leftist follower loves American bureaucracy and political deals. The hatred against Old America was simply a means to an end, not a philosophical position based upon ethics, that they use to get rid of the Constitution to pave way for the transformation of America into a proto fascist state. A lot of people have guilt, weakness, hate, and envy in their hearts, so the Left know that they must direct it against the enemies of the Left, or else the mob will direct it against the Left and their Democrat allies.

The funny thing about this is that it tends to generate race wars, civil wars, and wars based upon factionalism (teachers vs unions vs parents vs students vs blacks vs gays vs feminists vs mothers vs relationship gurus). This factionalistic strife is only held in check by US law, power, threats, coercion, firepower, and politics. I do truly wonder if the Left realizes that they cannot keep all these competing interests loyal to them, after their take over of America is finished. Nor will the rest of us, with lethal force being gathered to protect or assassinate whatever needs to be protected or killed, going to be easily eliminated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the primary reason the Democrats like to generate anti-American hatred is mostly because they need to find a foreign enemy for the masses to hate. They can&#8217;t act like Hitler, fascism, or the Soviets, because they don&#8217;t really care about hating some outside foreign group, so they settle on old, ancient, white America. Which they&#8217;re going to destroy anyways since the Constitution is in their way.</p>
<p>However, this is just a smoke screen, a magician trick, because the loyal Leftist follower loves American bureaucracy and political deals. The hatred against Old America was simply a means to an end, not a philosophical position based upon ethics, that they use to get rid of the Constitution to pave way for the transformation of America into a proto fascist state. A lot of people have guilt, weakness, hate, and envy in their hearts, so the Left know that they must direct it against the enemies of the Left, or else the mob will direct it against the Left and their Democrat allies.</p>
<p>The funny thing about this is that it tends to generate race wars, civil wars, and wars based upon factionalism (teachers vs unions vs parents vs students vs blacks vs gays vs feminists vs mothers vs relationship gurus). This factionalistic strife is only held in check by US law, power, threats, coercion, firepower, and politics. I do truly wonder if the Left realizes that they cannot keep all these competing interests loyal to them, after their take over of America is finished. Nor will the rest of us, with lethal force being gathered to protect or assassinate whatever needs to be protected or killed, going to be easily eliminated.</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 04:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Political power is mostly about resources. Whoever controls the resources controls you, because you don&#039;t have much choice but to be a slave when all the food and firepower is in the hands of evil tyrannical Utopian cultists that believe in a perfect humanity, that they will make, irregardless of how many slaves have to be sacrificed.

America was founded on certain principles which closely aligned with the reason why Socrates told the Athenian assembly to kill him, if they really thought what he was doing was wrong. The Athenian assembly thought they could humble Socrates and make him tow the political line in not talking about Sparta or some other thing the Athenian ruling members disliked, so they thought they could scare him with the death penalty. It ended up being a real one, and few of the truly educated philosophers have forgotten exactly who did what to whom, even after such a long time.

The reason why evil causes decay and entropy, which leads to chaos and destruction, is because you cannot sustain it. Evil can take resources, but cannot produce it easily in replacement. Evil can force good and wise individuals, like Socrates, to die, or assassinate the character of people like Bush or Palin, but they can&#039;t do the opposite of creating wise individuals or good individuals or even law abiding individuals. Thus much like a parasite that kills its host, the parasite will die when the host dies. While that&#039;s perfectly fine for a generation that begins and ends in 24 hours, that&#039;s a little bit difficult for humans to live by as an ethical code of conduct.

By allowing the parasite to continue to live, the host dies faster. So the choice Socrates made was to make the state kill him, in order to expose evil for evil, and let evil take its just rewards and Socrates will take his just rewards after death, whatever may await, because it&#039;s better than the Athenian assembly. Even then, the vote was around 51-60% for, 40% against. A somewhat similar decision to Ayn Rand&#039;s Atlas Shrugged, although more practical because he actually did it, whereas Ayn Rand only postulated a non-existent utopia. Socrates&#039; student, Plato, thus was poisoned against democracy by that experience and much of Plato&#039;s views somehow passed down to some Europeans settling in America 2 thousand years later.

One reason why there was so much resistance against women voting and people without land voting, because the worry amongst the FOunding Fathers wasn&#039;t equal representation, but whether the people representing and voting, were rapists and murderers, or self-disciplined citizens looking out for the common good. That dividing line, is not as hard to cross as many think.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Political power is mostly about resources. Whoever controls the resources controls you, because you don&#8217;t have much choice but to be a slave when all the food and firepower is in the hands of evil tyrannical Utopian cultists that believe in a perfect humanity, that they will make, irregardless of how many slaves have to be sacrificed.</p>
<p>America was founded on certain principles which closely aligned with the reason why Socrates told the Athenian assembly to kill him, if they really thought what he was doing was wrong. The Athenian assembly thought they could humble Socrates and make him tow the political line in not talking about Sparta or some other thing the Athenian ruling members disliked, so they thought they could scare him with the death penalty. It ended up being a real one, and few of the truly educated philosophers have forgotten exactly who did what to whom, even after such a long time.</p>
<p>The reason why evil causes decay and entropy, which leads to chaos and destruction, is because you cannot sustain it. Evil can take resources, but cannot produce it easily in replacement. Evil can force good and wise individuals, like Socrates, to die, or assassinate the character of people like Bush or Palin, but they can&#8217;t do the opposite of creating wise individuals or good individuals or even law abiding individuals. Thus much like a parasite that kills its host, the parasite will die when the host dies. While that&#8217;s perfectly fine for a generation that begins and ends in 24 hours, that&#8217;s a little bit difficult for humans to live by as an ethical code of conduct.</p>
<p>By allowing the parasite to continue to live, the host dies faster. So the choice Socrates made was to make the state kill him, in order to expose evil for evil, and let evil take its just rewards and Socrates will take his just rewards after death, whatever may await, because it&#8217;s better than the Athenian assembly. Even then, the vote was around 51-60% for, 40% against. A somewhat similar decision to Ayn Rand&#8217;s Atlas Shrugged, although more practical because he actually did it, whereas Ayn Rand only postulated a non-existent utopia. Socrates&#8217; student, Plato, thus was poisoned against democracy by that experience and much of Plato&#8217;s views somehow passed down to some Europeans settling in America 2 thousand years later.</p>
<p>One reason why there was so much resistance against women voting and people without land voting, because the worry amongst the FOunding Fathers wasn&#8217;t equal representation, but whether the people representing and voting, were rapists and murderers, or self-disciplined citizens looking out for the common good. That dividing line, is not as hard to cross as many think.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Devx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Devx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 00:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Charles M, I really enjoyed #28.  Another Heinlein fan.  Remember that in his Future History, before we get Coventry, we get &quot;The Crazy Years&quot;. Cultural and political chaos sweeping the country.  Think the Occupy Movement then increase by 100X.  All those people sweeping madly back and forth across the nation with no self-control.

For some reason, I *really* want to see Paul Krugman (aka The Ferret) exiled to Coventy.  I want a camera to follow him around, and I would subscribe for a premium price.  

By the way, have our noble overlords, who want the government to do EVERYTHING for us, managed to get electricity, power and heat to those suffering people in New York and New Jersey yet.   They&#039;re all so good at the basic responsibilities of government, it surely makes sense to entrust them with EVERYTHING, doesn&#039;t it?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles M, I really enjoyed #28.  Another Heinlein fan.  Remember that in his Future History, before we get Coventry, we get &#8220;The Crazy Years&#8221;. Cultural and political chaos sweeping the country.  Think the Occupy Movement then increase by 100X.  All those people sweeping madly back and forth across the nation with no self-control.</p>
<p>For some reason, I *really* want to see Paul Krugman (aka The Ferret) exiled to Coventy.  I want a camera to follow him around, and I would subscribe for a premium price.  </p>
<p>By the way, have our noble overlords, who want the government to do EVERYTHING for us, managed to get electricity, power and heat to those suffering people in New York and New Jersey yet.   They&#8217;re all so good at the basic responsibilities of government, it surely makes sense to entrust them with EVERYTHING, doesn&#8217;t it?<br />
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		<title>By: Charles Martel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Martel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2012 17:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ymarsakar, I like the idea Robert Heinlein had in his novella, &quot;Coventry,&quot; which takes place after he Second American Revolution and the country is governed under a new constitution called The Compact. People who cannot abide by the Compact, which is very libertarian in substance, and think themselves as beyond the law, are exiled to Coventry, a large fenced-off section of the country that exists in a state of anarchy.
 
Former citizens exiled there have a choice of which weapons and provisions they&#039;d like to bring in (up to a limit), a choice that has life-and-death consequences considering the types of people who have been sent into Coventry before. For example, you can overwhelm at first with firearms, but what happens when you run out of ammo? Or you can enter equipped with a portable camp stove and freeze-dried food, but what happens when you run out of fuel and packaged food?
 
Wouldn&#039;t you just love to see our society&#039;s Best and Brightest---Krugman, Matthews, Holder, Pelosi, Brian Williams, Obama, Biden, Stewart/Leibowitz, the professoriate exiled to a place where they would have ample opportunity to begin society anew on their elevated and enlightened terms? The rest of us could point cameras within and enjoy the spectacle as our moral superiors quickly degenerated into a creaky, arthritic version of &quot;Lord of the Flies.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ymarsakar, I like the idea Robert Heinlein had in his novella, &#8220;Coventry,&#8221; which takes place after he Second American Revolution and the country is governed under a new constitution called The Compact. People who cannot abide by the Compact, which is very libertarian in substance, and think themselves as beyond the law, are exiled to Coventry, a large fenced-off section of the country that exists in a state of anarchy.<br />
 <br />
Former citizens exiled there have a choice of which weapons and provisions they&#8217;d like to bring in (up to a limit), a choice that has life-and-death consequences considering the types of people who have been sent into Coventry before. For example, you can overwhelm at first with firearms, but what happens when you run out of ammo? Or you can enter equipped with a portable camp stove and freeze-dried food, but what happens when you run out of fuel and packaged food?<br />
 <br />
Wouldn&#8217;t you just love to see our society&#8217;s Best and Brightest&#8212;Krugman, Matthews, Holder, Pelosi, Brian Williams, Obama, Biden, Stewart/Leibowitz, the professoriate exiled to a place where they would have ample opportunity to begin society anew on their elevated and enlightened terms? The rest of us could point cameras within and enjoy the spectacle as our moral superiors quickly degenerated into a creaky, arthritic version of &#8220;Lord of the Flies.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: kagey45</title>
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		<dc:creator>kagey45</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2012 15:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I told my college-aged daughter, &quot;If you vote like your lady parts depend on it, you end up with a douche.&quot; Fortunately, she&#039;s a good conservative and votes with her brain.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I told my college-aged daughter, &#8220;If you vote like your lady parts depend on it, you end up with a douche.&#8221; Fortunately, she&#8217;s a good conservative and votes with her brain.</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 21:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t worry about Maher. Come the True Revolution, he and others will, maybe not the first on the list, but at least the first 100 on the list to be executed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t worry about Maher. Come the True Revolution, he and others will, maybe not the first on the list, but at least the first 100 on the list to be executed.</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 21:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Give credit to the enemy when they have scored a victory against you. Don&#039;t pretend that they attacked you with 1000% of the numbers they actually used. Don&#039;t pick some leader on your side and assassinate their competence because you don&#039;t like them and want to use the defeat to benefit yourself.

Give credit to the enemy for what the enemy has done well. Or just surrender in this war that people don&#039;t want to fight. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give credit to the enemy when they have scored a victory against you. Don&#8217;t pretend that they attacked you with 1000% of the numbers they actually used. Don&#8217;t pick some leader on your side and assassinate their competence because you don&#8217;t like them and want to use the defeat to benefit yourself.</p>
<p>Give credit to the enemy for what the enemy has done well. Or just surrender in this war that people don&#8217;t want to fight. </p>
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		<title>By: Mike Devx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Devx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 08:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like that, Spartacus: An E-Card that says “Vote like your a** depends on it.”
But the picture on my E-Card wouldn&#039;t have been graphs.  It would have been, in typical E-Card style, an image of a mother and father, their arms around three little children, all of them looking worried, and desperate, and hungry.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like that, Spartacus: An E-Card that says “Vote like your a** depends on it.”<br />
But the picture on my E-Card wouldn&#8217;t have been graphs.  It would have been, in typical E-Card style, an image of a mother and father, their arms around three little children, all of them looking worried, and desperate, and hungry.</p>
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		<title>By: Spartacus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spartacus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 07:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Two thoughts:
 
1) In response to the &quot;Vote like your lady parts depend on it&quot; e-card, I still wish the Romney campaign had come out with a e-card showing the vertiginous graph of federal debt 1900-2012, with the caption, &quot;Vote like your a** depends on it.&quot;
 
2) After the War, the GOP used to rally Union veterans with the slogan, &quot;Vote as you shot!&quot;  (&quot;GAR&quot; was understood to stand not just for &quot;Grand Army of the Republic,&quot; but also &quot;Generally All Republican.&quot;)  I see that the other side is now using a variant of that: &quot;Vote as you shagged.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two thoughts:<br />
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1) In response to the &#8220;Vote like your lady parts depend on it&#8221; e-card, I still wish the Romney campaign had come out with a e-card showing the vertiginous graph of federal debt 1900-2012, with the caption, &#8220;Vote like your a** depends on it.&#8221;<br />
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2) After the War, the GOP used to rally Union veterans with the slogan, &#8220;Vote as you shot!&#8221;  (&#8220;GAR&#8221; was understood to stand not just for &#8220;Grand Army of the Republic,&#8221; but also &#8220;Generally All Republican.&#8221;)  I see that the other side is now using a variant of that: &#8220;Vote as you shagged.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Cheesestick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheesestick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 21:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;&quot;&lt;/em&gt;The situation is just as it has been with negative advertising. 90% of the people say they hate negative advertising, but they don’t.  Negative advertising WORKS.  The more extreme it is, the more it works.&quot;

Completely agree w/ this.  Same for all the people who supposedly are frustrated that the two sides can&#039;t &quot;get along and get something done&quot; and are supposedly tired of all the fighting.  And yet, what do these people watch every day on TV?  Nothing but conflict, verbal &amp; physical fighting, etc.  What youtube videos get hits the fastest (well, besides kitty-therapy vids)?  Fighting videos....subway smack down, bus driver beat down, etc. 

So when the media goes all puritanical when, for example, Joe Wilson yells &quot;you lie&quot; to the president, more than half of our own side goes immediately to apology-mode.  And to what end?  To appeal to people who are watching women on Real Wive&#039;s of Whatever scratch each other&#039;s eyes out?  We are worried that a meek congressman blurting out the truth is going to offend these folks?  It makes no sense.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;</em>The situation is just as it has been with negative advertising. 90% of the people say they hate negative advertising, but they don’t.  Negative advertising WORKS.  The more extreme it is, the more it works.&#8221;</p>
<p>Completely agree w/ this.  Same for all the people who supposedly are frustrated that the two sides can&#8217;t &#8220;get along and get something done&#8221; and are supposedly tired of all the fighting.  And yet, what do these people watch every day on TV?  Nothing but conflict, verbal &amp; physical fighting, etc.  What youtube videos get hits the fastest (well, besides kitty-therapy vids)?  Fighting videos&#8230;.subway smack down, bus driver beat down, etc. </p>
<p>So when the media goes all puritanical when, for example, Joe Wilson yells &#8220;you lie&#8221; to the president, more than half of our own side goes immediately to apology-mode.  And to what end?  To appeal to people who are watching women on Real Wive&#8217;s of Whatever scratch each other&#8217;s eyes out?  We are worried that a meek congressman blurting out the truth is going to offend these folks?  It makes no sense.  </p>
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