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		<title>By: bkivey</title>
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		<dc:creator>bkivey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2012 22:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/valerie-jarrett-climate-activist-speech-grassroots-organizers_664311.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Racist!!!&lt;/a&gt;  (I mean, it is racist if you criticize a black person, isn’t it?)&quot;
 
I addressed this in my most recent post: http://bkivey.wordpress.com/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;<a href="http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/valerie-jarrett-climate-activist-speech-grassroots-organizers_664311.html" rel="nofollow">Racist!!!</a>  (I mean, it is racist if you criticize a black person, isn’t it?)&#8221;<br />
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I addressed this in my most recent post: <a href="http://bkivey.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">http://bkivey.wordpress.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Danny Lemieux</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny Lemieux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 22:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Checking back into the archives, I remembered that I had tagged Romney as &quot;Wendell Willkie in a Bookworm post way back in January (2012). 

I stand by that comparison - this election was largely a repeat of the (rich, successful, pragmatic industrialist) Wendell Willkie&#039;s campaign against the economically ignorant faux populist, FDR. In that campaign, too, the media was overwhelmingly Democrat-controlled and the Democrat&#039;s primary campaign strategy was one of slander, demonization and demagoguery. Romney was able only too often to demonstrate how removed he was personally from the life and concerns of ordinary Americans and was, fortunately or unfortunately, unable to lower himself to fight the Democrats at their own level.

http://www.bookwormroom.com/2012/01/11/wendell-romney/


Unfortunately, the FDR era ended in a major world war for which, because our country still retained a very large debt capacity, we were able to borrow our way to victory. I believe that the Obama era will, too, lead up to a major world war. Unfortunately, this time we will no longer have the debt capacity to mobilize our defenses and our industrial base will have been largely dismantled. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Checking back into the archives, I remembered that I had tagged Romney as &#8220;Wendell Willkie in a Bookworm post way back in January (2012). </p>
<p>I stand by that comparison &#8211; this election was largely a repeat of the (rich, successful, pragmatic industrialist) Wendell Willkie&#8217;s campaign against the economically ignorant faux populist, FDR. In that campaign, too, the media was overwhelmingly Democrat-controlled and the Democrat&#8217;s primary campaign strategy was one of slander, demonization and demagoguery. Romney was able only too often to demonstrate how removed he was personally from the life and concerns of ordinary Americans and was, fortunately or unfortunately, unable to lower himself to fight the Democrats at their own level.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bookwormroom.com/2012/01/11/wendell-romney/" rel="nofollow">http://www.bookwormroom.com/2012/01/11/wendell-romney/</a></p>
<p>Unfortunately, the FDR era ended in a major world war for which, because our country still retained a very large debt capacity, we were able to borrow our way to victory. I believe that the Obama era will, too, lead up to a major world war. Unfortunately, this time we will no longer have the debt capacity to mobilize our defenses and our industrial base will have been largely dismantled. </p>
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		<title>By: Bookworm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bookworm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 21:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Kevin_B:  I have no doubt whatsoever that, with your analytical, open mind, and broad fund of knowledge (especially for one so young), you can handle anything that they can throw at you.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin_B:  I have no doubt whatsoever that, with your analytical, open mind, and broad fund of knowledge (especially for one so young), you can handle anything that they can throw at you.</p>
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		<title>By: Bookworm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bookworm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 21:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Peggyn:  I don&#039;t know about the AmEx gift cards.  I do know that my &quot;penny&quot; is actually a small percent of every dollar spent by going through my link.  Beyond that, it&#039;s all a mystery to me.  ;)&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peggyn:  I don&#8217;t know about the AmEx gift cards.  I do know that my &#8220;penny&#8221; is actually a small percent of every dollar spent by going through my link.  Beyond that, it&#8217;s all a mystery to me.  <img src='http://www.bookwormroom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kevin_B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin_B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 21:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I actually happen to be from Europe (Flanders, the Northern Dutch-speaking part of Belgium) and in college/university in Antwerp. On top of that, what I am studying is likely going to come as a surprise to some (most?) around here. 


I study Environmental Sciences. Yes, you heard that right. Basically, it involves a combination of subjects regarding law and policy, sociology, institutions, biology, ecology and chemistry, environmental issues and human health. I certainly prefer the science, environment and health related subjects to the ones related to sociology, policy etc. I studied the more practical and less theoretical Environmental Managment before.
 
As one would expect, with universities already often prone to leftism, Environment Sciences certainly has some of that. It most often comes out in the form of subtile or more explicit support of big government, bureaucracy and institutions like the EU. Big government is often thought and suggested to be the only way to deal with the environment. I have one professor who seems to be somewhat prone at times to a dislike of democracy and individual freedom. Another thing that is noticed with some of the professor is the kind of nutty anti-human stuff that isn&#039;t uncommon for the environmentalist crowd.
 
There is some anti-Western thought and some hostility to prosperity as well, but that isn&#039;t as noticeable as the big government advocacy. I haven&#039;t come across nutty anti-western stuff, open socialism/communism, support of ideologies like Islam, crazy gender and LGBT stuff etc yet. Maybe I&#039;m not in the right field for that. In my field, it&#039;s mostly the big goverment and anti-human stuff. 
 
I do not know whether I qualify as a conservative. But I guess the fact I read and often like this blog (and blogs like this) proves I&#039;m not a die-hard leftist. In my experience, die-hard leftists don&#039;t usually even read what conservatives write, let alone think about it. Die-hard leftists don&#039;t seem to be willing to see or hear what conservatives have to say, or even consider their arguments.
 

It&#039;s not always easy being to the right of what&#039;s common in universities, but I can deal with it. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually happen to be from Europe (Flanders, the Northern Dutch-speaking part of Belgium) and in college/university in Antwerp. On top of that, what I am studying is likely going to come as a surprise to some (most?) around here. </p>
<p>I study Environmental Sciences. Yes, you heard that right. Basically, it involves a combination of subjects regarding law and policy, sociology, institutions, biology, ecology and chemistry, environmental issues and human health. I certainly prefer the science, environment and health related subjects to the ones related to sociology, policy etc. I studied the more practical and less theoretical Environmental Managment before.<br />
 <br />
As one would expect, with universities already often prone to leftism, Environment Sciences certainly has some of that. It most often comes out in the form of subtile or more explicit support of big government, bureaucracy and institutions like the EU. Big government is often thought and suggested to be the only way to deal with the environment. I have one professor who seems to be somewhat prone at times to a dislike of democracy and individual freedom. Another thing that is noticed with some of the professor is the kind of nutty anti-human stuff that isn&#8217;t uncommon for the environmentalist crowd.<br />
 <br />
There is some anti-Western thought and some hostility to prosperity as well, but that isn&#8217;t as noticeable as the big government advocacy. I haven&#8217;t come across nutty anti-western stuff, open socialism/communism, support of ideologies like Islam, crazy gender and LGBT stuff etc yet. Maybe I&#8217;m not in the right field for that. In my field, it&#8217;s mostly the big goverment and anti-human stuff.<br />
 <br />
I do not know whether I qualify as a conservative. But I guess the fact I read and often like this blog (and blogs like this) proves I&#8217;m not a die-hard leftist. In my experience, die-hard leftists don&#8217;t usually even read what conservatives write, let alone think about it. Die-hard leftists don&#8217;t seem to be willing to see or hear what conservatives have to say, or even consider their arguments.<br />
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<p>It&#8217;s not always easy being to the right of what&#8217;s common in universities, but I can deal with it.<br />
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		<title>By: David Foster</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Foster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 14:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ron19....here&#039;s a story about a Freshman who was subjected to mandatory indoctrination at the University of Delaware. She didn&#039;t play along, and when the Stasi agent asked her about her &quot;sexual identity,&quot; her response was, quite appropriately, &quot;That is none of your damn business.&quot;

When he asked her &quot;When was a time you felt oppressed?,&quot; no doubt expected a response having to do with gender and.or ethnicity, she replied:&quot;
&quot;I am oppressed every day [because of my] feelings for the opera. Regularly [people] throw stones at me and jeer me with cruel names.... Unbearable adversity&quot;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://thefire.org/article/9865.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;LINK &lt;/a&gt;

&lt;em&gt;&quot;If the Devil will not yield&lt;/em&gt; to texts of Scripture, it is better to jeer and flout him; for he cannot endure scorn&quot;

--Martin Luther ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron19&#8230;.here&#8217;s a story about a Freshman who was subjected to mandatory indoctrination at the University of Delaware. She didn&#8217;t play along, and when the Stasi agent asked her about her &#8220;sexual identity,&#8221; her response was, quite appropriately, &#8221;That is none of your damn business.&#8221;</p>
<p>When he asked her &#8220;When was a time you felt oppressed?,&#8221; no doubt expected a response having to do with gender and.or ethnicity, she replied:&#8221;<br />
&#8220;I am oppressed every day [because of my] feelings for the opera. Regularly [people] throw stones at me and jeer me with cruel names&#8230;. Unbearable adversity&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://thefire.org/article/9865.html" rel="nofollow">LINK </a></p>
<p><em>&#8220;If the Devil will not yield</em> to texts of Scripture, it is better to jeer and flout him; for he cannot endure scorn&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8211;Martin Luther </p>
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		<title>By: peggyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>peggyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 13:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do you also get &quot;a penny&quot; for buying AmEx gift cards? And is it related to the $ spent?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you also get &#8220;a penny&#8221; for buying AmEx gift cards? And is it related to the $ spent?</p>
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		<title>By: lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 12:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Europeans are also ignoring the fact that the UN did nothing--no one did anything--from 1948 to 1967 about Jerusalem, which was SUPPOSED to have been &quot;internationalized&quot; under the partition plan (and the UN vote), while Jordan and the Arabs made sure it was Judenrein--down to destroying historic synagogues and cemetaries.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Europeans are also ignoring the fact that the UN did nothing&#8211;no one did anything&#8211;from 1948 to 1967 about Jerusalem, which was SUPPOSED to have been &#8220;internationalized&#8221; under the partition plan (and the UN vote), while Jordan and the Arabs made sure it was Judenrein&#8211;down to destroying historic synagogues and cemetaries.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron19</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron19</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 05:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Racism: 


 15 years ago I finally finished getting my Bachelor&#039;s degree in a technical field (University of California (Hi!, Bookworm and NavyOne, and all you other UC students), Riverside).  Part of what I had to do was fulfill some &quot;general education&quot; requirements, one of which was an ethnicity course.  Since as a white middle-aged male I was not a defined oppressed minority, there was only one class in the catalog that seemed even slightly relevant.  


 On the first day of class, part of the handout was a defintion: being white is being a racist, and being a racist is being white.  There were no other definitions that could be applied to these two terms, and what I got back on the midterm test, an essay on the topic based on my personal life experience (my first wife was a South Korean), graded by a grad student and then revised upward (to a C) by the prof, was that this was really and truly what he meant.  


 For the Final, which I did not see graded, I made up a race called the &quot;machinists&quot; based loosely on one of the books we had to read.  My paper was written as if it might be about union machinists if you stretched quite a bit.  It was actually about the machines, such as locomotives and drill presses, and how they were an oppressed group, by humans of all types.  I must have gotten an A, because the prof must have really liked it; my grade for the course was a B.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Racism: </p>
<p> 15 years ago I finally finished getting my Bachelor&#8217;s degree in a technical field (University of California (Hi!, Bookworm and NavyOne, and all you other UC students), Riverside).  Part of what I had to do was fulfill some &#8220;general education&#8221; requirements, one of which was an ethnicity course.  Since as a white middle-aged male I was not a defined oppressed minority, there was only one class in the catalog that seemed even slightly relevant.  </p>
<p> On the first day of class, part of the handout was a defintion: being white is being a racist, and being a racist is being white.  There were no other definitions that could be applied to these two terms, and what I got back on the midterm test, an essay on the topic based on my personal life experience (my first wife was a South Korean), graded by a grad student and then revised upward (to a C) by the prof, was that this was really and truly what he meant.  </p>
<p> For the Final, which I did not see graded, I made up a race called the &#8220;machinists&#8221; based loosely on one of the books we had to read.  My paper was written as if it might be about union machinists if you stretched quite a bit.  It was actually about the machines, such as locomotives and drill presses, and how they were an oppressed group, by humans of all types.  I must have gotten an A, because the prof must have really liked it; my grade for the course was a B.</p>
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		<title>By: gpc31</title>
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		<dc:creator>gpc31</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 04:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Susan Rice is worth approximately $33 million.  How did she get to be so rich?  And, as someone once said, after a certain point, haven&#039;t you earned enough money?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susan Rice is worth approximately $33 million.  How did she get to be so rich?  And, as someone once said, after a certain point, haven&#8217;t you earned enough money?</p>
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