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	<title>Comments on: My deepest condolences to the people of Newtown, Connecticut &#8212; but don&#8217;t let this make you give up your guns *UPDATED*</title>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2012/12/14/my-deepest-condolences-to-the-people-of-newton-connecticut-but-dont-let-this-make-you-give-up-your-guns/comment-page-1/#comment-149818</link>
		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 18:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The positive thing that can be found in even people exploding all the time, like at 9/11, is that it tends to wake up the rest of the sheep. Hate is the cleansing fire that will save one&#039;s community and society, since absolutely nothing else has in this decadent poison filled corrupt Western civilization.
 
If it requires hate to wake up the idtards sucking in Leftist milk and honey, that was always the natural end result of people&#039;s slavish desire for slavery and having masters.
 
Society and civilization becomes dead when people lack the emotion and fire to do what it takes against domestic and foreign enemies. If it requires the Left harvesting the souls of children to increase the awareness of this nation against the true enemies of the United States of America, that decision was never in my hands to begin with. It was in the hands of those so called voters. And they decided for everyone, whether it was a fake election or not, what we would have to hate or love.
 
If humans didn&#039;t care about losing their children, we would be in an even worst situation. But that&#039;s soon to come one way or another. Watch what people do and how many more people they get killed as a result.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The positive thing that can be found in even people exploding all the time, like at 9/11, is that it tends to wake up the rest of the sheep. Hate is the cleansing fire that will save one&#8217;s community and society, since absolutely nothing else has in this decadent poison filled corrupt Western civilization.<br />
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If it requires hate to wake up the idtards sucking in Leftist milk and honey, that was always the natural end result of people&#8217;s slavish desire for slavery and having masters.<br />
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Society and civilization becomes dead when people lack the emotion and fire to do what it takes against domestic and foreign enemies. If it requires the Left harvesting the souls of children to increase the awareness of this nation against the true enemies of the United States of America, that decision was never in my hands to begin with. It was in the hands of those so called voters. And they decided for everyone, whether it was a fake election or not, what we would have to hate or love.<br />
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If humans didn&#8217;t care about losing their children, we would be in an even worst situation. But that&#8217;s soon to come one way or another. Watch what people do and how many more people they get killed as a result.</p>
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		<title>By: Earl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Earl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 01:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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Podhoretz says:  &quot;The idea that civilization is dedicated to the protection and preservation (of) the weak and the innocent...is the root and core of the West.&quot;
 
That idea was ruled inadmissible by the SCOTUS in 1973.
 
There were plenty who predicted that life in these United States would be cheapened by the decision, and they were shouted down and told they were old-fashioned, dogmatic, etc.  But when we think honestly about what that decision really said, why would we be surprised at the violent games and the mass murders?  People with mental problems are the canaries in our coal mine, folks....it&#039;s going to get worse as it spreads.  Don&#039;t kid yourselves that it&#039;s not spreading -- read the Ethics (sic) literature.
 
The guns are not the problem - it&#039;s the culture, s****d!
 
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Podhoretz says:  &#8220;The idea that civilization is dedicated to the protection and preservation (of) the weak and the innocent&#8230;is the root and core of the West.&#8221;<br />
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That idea was ruled inadmissible by the SCOTUS in 1973.<br />
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There were plenty who predicted that life in these United States would be cheapened by the decision, and they were shouted down and told they were old-fashioned, dogmatic, etc.  But when we think honestly about what that decision really said, why would we be surprised at the violent games and the mass murders?  People with mental problems are the canaries in our coal mine, folks&#8230;.it&#8217;s going to get worse as it spreads.  Don&#8217;t kid yourselves that it&#8217;s not spreading &#8212; read the Ethics (sic) literature.<br />
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The guns are not the problem &#8211; it&#8217;s the culture, s****d!<br />
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		<title>By: JL</title>
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		<dc:creator>JL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 19:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The idea that people are any sadder now than before, is a trick of their dysfunctional human self deception. Why weren’t you this sad, depressed, and/or angry before the shooting? Did you think it wasn’t going to happen? Did you think just as many other children haven’t died here, there, and elsewhere are you just lollygagging around the internets worrying about what to shop at Amazon?&quot;
You&#039;ve pegged me wrong. Completely wrong. The events of this past Friday were certainly a horrific tragedy, worthy of our condolences and condemnation, as is any loss of innocent life at the hands of violence...but I recognize that our world is plagued by similar calamities, ones that we generally gloss over because they aren&#039;t happening in our backyards or are actually perpetrated by our government (with our consent and often approval).
I refer to things like the torture and indefinite detention of anyone the State deems is a suspected terrorist, the raining down of Hellfire missiles upon anyone who may or may not have the remotest link to terrorist organizations (we don&#039;t really care one way or the other), the industrial-scale, domestic slaughter of innocent human lives for the sake of convenience and personal &quot;liberty,&quot; the state-sanctioned execution of &quot;worthless&quot; human lives in clear contrast to Church teaching on the matter, the perpetuation of unjust, unneeded wars in countries half way across the world, the support, not mere tolerance, but full-throtled support of individuals and regimes responsible for innumerable injustices imposed upon their own people, and the indifference as thousands of people die each day due to starvation. We should not be shocked when human life is held with such little value as it was apparently done by one individual this past week...we are people and a country that has developed a habit of disregarding the sanctity of life and then convincing our consciences it&#039;s okay because it&#039;s the &quot;pragmatic&quot; thing to do...the facade comes apart when the victims are our own.
It struck me as I was perusing the exhibits in a Sarajevo museum dedicated to the Balakn conflict: travesties against God and mankind alike occur nearly every single day. And if we allow ourselves to be overcome by grief and sadness at every turn, we&#039;ll live a crippled, paralyzed existence.
Still, I am not senseless and obtuse enough to make such callous remarks as you have. The fact that tragedy occurs everyday is not license for you to grow numb to it. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The idea that people are any sadder now than before, is a trick of their dysfunctional human self deception. Why weren’t you this sad, depressed, and/or angry before the shooting? Did you think it wasn’t going to happen? Did you think just as many other children haven’t died here, there, and elsewhere are you just lollygagging around the internets worrying about what to shop at Amazon?&#8221;<br />
You&#8217;ve pegged me wrong. Completely wrong. The events of this past Friday were certainly a horrific tragedy, worthy of our condolences and condemnation, as is any loss of innocent life at the hands of violence&#8230;but I recognize that our world is plagued by similar calamities, ones that we generally gloss over because they aren&#8217;t happening in our backyards or are actually perpetrated by our government (with our consent and often approval).<br />
I refer to things like the torture and indefinite detention of anyone the State deems is a suspected terrorist, the raining down of Hellfire missiles upon anyone who may or may not have the remotest link to terrorist organizations (we don&#8217;t really care one way or the other), the industrial-scale, domestic slaughter of innocent human lives for the sake of convenience and personal &#8220;liberty,&#8221; the state-sanctioned execution of &#8220;worthless&#8221; human lives in clear contrast to Church teaching on the matter, the perpetuation of unjust, unneeded wars in countries half way across the world, the support, not mere tolerance, but full-throtled support of individuals and regimes responsible for innumerable injustices imposed upon their own people, and the indifference as thousands of people die each day due to starvation. We should not be shocked when human life is held with such little value as it was apparently done by one individual this past week&#8230;we are people and a country that has developed a habit of disregarding the sanctity of life and then convincing our consciences it&#8217;s okay because it&#8217;s the &#8220;pragmatic&#8221; thing to do&#8230;the facade comes apart when the victims are our own.<br />
It struck me as I was perusing the exhibits in a Sarajevo museum dedicated to the Balakn conflict: travesties against God and mankind alike occur nearly every single day. And if we allow ourselves to be overcome by grief and sadness at every turn, we&#8217;ll live a crippled, paralyzed existence.<br />
Still, I am not senseless and obtuse enough to make such callous remarks as you have. The fact that tragedy occurs everyday is not license for you to grow numb to it. </p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2012/12/14/my-deepest-condolences-to-the-people-of-newton-connecticut-but-dont-let-this-make-you-give-up-your-guns/comment-page-1/#comment-149758</link>
		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 17:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The idea that people are any sadder now than before, is a trick of their dysfunctional human self deception. Why weren&#039;t you this sad, depressed, and/or angry before the shooting? Did you think it wasn&#039;t going to happen? Did you think just as many other children haven&#039;t died here, there, and elsewhere are you just lollygagging around the internets worrying about what to shop at Amazon?
 
The idea that humans start &quot;caring&quot; and &quot;feeling emotion&quot; when something like this happens is a sign of societal decadence, weakness, and self deception. None are virtues for any functional civilization, at least in the eyes of those who are sane.
 
I&#039;m not particularly shocked or emotionally disturbed by such events because I actually think about these things and prepare for them more than most of the Amazon slash Wall Mart shoppers in this country. This was true even before Ft. Hood&#039;s massacre, where I gamed out a similar scenario, except mine had the terrorists assassinate all the on base families too. I hear on voice coms via online meetings, the tone of people who talk about this. They are upset. They are shocked. They are depressed. They are saddened.
 
Where the F were you guys before, do you think you&#039;re &quot;allowed&quot; to be sad just because you&#039;re living and they are dead? The dead don&#039;t particularly want nor appreciate your self indulged suffering. If anything, they want the living to carry on the cause, kill the evil, and prevent future deaths. Not so you and I can &quot;wallow&quot; in or self-pity and emotionalism.
Emotional greed is all too common in this country now a days. People know not what they are doing to themselves and future generations. But even if they did, they&#039;d keep on doing it.
The duty of the living to their dead is to prevent more people from dying, by killing the enemy. Anybody else talking about using this for their own personal reasons or somebody&#039;s politics, don&#039;t exist to me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea that people are any sadder now than before, is a trick of their dysfunctional human self deception. Why weren&#8217;t you this sad, depressed, and/or angry before the shooting? Did you think it wasn&#8217;t going to happen? Did you think just as many other children haven&#8217;t died here, there, and elsewhere are you just lollygagging around the internets worrying about what to shop at Amazon?<br />
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The idea that humans start &#8220;caring&#8221; and &#8220;feeling emotion&#8221; when something like this happens is a sign of societal decadence, weakness, and self deception. None are virtues for any functional civilization, at least in the eyes of those who are sane.<br />
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I&#8217;m not particularly shocked or emotionally disturbed by such events because I actually think about these things and prepare for them more than most of the Amazon slash Wall Mart shoppers in this country. This was true even before Ft. Hood&#8217;s massacre, where I gamed out a similar scenario, except mine had the terrorists assassinate all the on base families too. I hear on voice coms via online meetings, the tone of people who talk about this. They are upset. They are shocked. They are depressed. They are saddened.<br />
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Where the F were you guys before, do you think you&#8217;re &#8220;allowed&#8221; to be sad just because you&#8217;re living and they are dead? The dead don&#8217;t particularly want nor appreciate your self indulged suffering. If anything, they want the living to carry on the cause, kill the evil, and prevent future deaths. Not so you and I can &#8220;wallow&#8221; in or self-pity and emotionalism.<br />
Emotional greed is all too common in this country now a days. People know not what they are doing to themselves and future generations. But even if they did, they&#8217;d keep on doing it.<br />
The duty of the living to their dead is to prevent more people from dying, by killing the enemy. Anybody else talking about using this for their own personal reasons or somebody&#8217;s politics, don&#8217;t exist to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2012/12/14/my-deepest-condolences-to-the-people-of-newton-connecticut-but-dont-let-this-make-you-give-up-your-guns/comment-page-1/#comment-149756</link>
		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 17:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here we go with the emotions again.
 
While some people blame politics, Democrats, gun laws, or Republicans, I was never overly concerned about those things people like to talk about. Actions are what speaks louder than words. If weakness and cowardice are not condemned, then all you&#039;ll have is a bunch of targets waiting on the government to save them.
The &quot;dead&quot; as you term it, would only be vulnerable to the weakness charge, not the cowardice charge, since presumably the people who ran away from the kids first, were the ones that survived.
 
It is precisely this &quot;focus&quot; on &quot;talking&quot; and &quot;meandering politics&quot; that has allowed so many to die to so called &quot;mass murderers&quot; in this country. You, JL, typing on a keyboard isn&#039;t helping any with that. The difference is, I already know what&#039;s up with that, so I deem it unimportant. Others deem the &quot;talking&quot; very important, more important than the consequences and security holes left by &quot;people&quot; in charge.
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here we go with the emotions again.<br />
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While some people blame politics, Democrats, gun laws, or Republicans, I was never overly concerned about those things people like to talk about. Actions are what speaks louder than words. If weakness and cowardice are not condemned, then all you&#8217;ll have is a bunch of targets waiting on the government to save them.<br />
The &#8220;dead&#8221; as you term it, would only be vulnerable to the weakness charge, not the cowardice charge, since presumably the people who ran away from the kids first, were the ones that survived.<br />
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It is precisely this &#8220;focus&#8221; on &#8220;talking&#8221; and &#8220;meandering politics&#8221; that has allowed so many to die to so called &#8220;mass murderers&#8221; in this country. You, JL, typing on a keyboard isn&#8217;t helping any with that. The difference is, I already know what&#8217;s up with that, so I deem it unimportant. Others deem the &#8220;talking&#8221; very important, more important than the consequences and security holes left by &#8220;people&#8221; in charge.<br />
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		<title>By: JL</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2012/12/14/my-deepest-condolences-to-the-people-of-newton-connecticut-but-dont-let-this-make-you-give-up-your-guns/comment-page-1/#comment-149750</link>
		<dc:creator>JL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 09:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ymarsakar&lt;/a&gt;, your remarks are needless and vile. Calling the dead victims of this tragedy &quot;spineless&quot; is a truly contemptuous thing to do. I&#039;m surprised no one else has called you out for your insensitivity and wrongheadedness. Additionally, claiming that &quot;the Left will make sure more mass murders happen in the US&quot; exposes you for the wingnut you are. I hope you have lost as much credibility in everyone else&#039;s eyes as you have in mine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">Ymarsakar</a>, your remarks are needless and vile. Calling the dead victims of this tragedy &#8220;spineless&#8221; is a truly contemptuous thing to do. I&#8217;m surprised no one else has called you out for your insensitivity and wrongheadedness. Additionally, claiming that &#8220;the Left will make sure more mass murders happen in the US&#8221; exposes you for the wingnut you are. I hope you have lost as much credibility in everyone else&#8217;s eyes as you have in mine.</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 20:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Left will make sure more mass murders happen in the US. It&#039;s the only way to keep the slaves in line, by making them afraid of something else more than the tyrant masters.
 
Count on it. Lunatics and mass murderers are the least of our problems...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Left will make sure more mass murders happen in the US. It&#8217;s the only way to keep the slaves in line, by making them afraid of something else more than the tyrant masters.<br />
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Count on it. Lunatics and mass murderers are the least of our problems&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Evil &#124; therightplanet.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evil &#124; therightplanet.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 20:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mike Devx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Devx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 07:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The horror of an evil mind that can murder twenty kindergarten children is beyond me.
 
It&#039;s bad enough to contemplate a shooter who murders all the innocent people in a movie theater in Aurora.  Or the high school freaks who murdered teachers and classmates in Columbine.
 
It&#039;s easy to categorically blame guns, or mental illness.  As to mental illness, there are hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, of mentally ill people out there, and THEY don&#039;t grab guns and decide to slaughter as many other people as they can get away with, let alone six-year-old children. I don&#039;t think we&#039;re close to identifying the exact cause or causes that drive these certain types of people to murder as many other innocent people as they can before they kill themselves.  I suspect it begins with some extreme form of narcissism, to the point of viewing all other people around you as objects to be manipulated rather than as people.  
 
From all indications, this murderer would have passed any test you could reasonably come up with to deny an adult gun ownership.  Otherwise you&#039;ll be restricting gun ownership to only the most provably stable people you can find, according to some expensive battery of psychological tests - and even then I bet you&#039;ll find mass-murdering killers slipping through the cracks even in THAT unworkable system.
 
Deny them personal ownership of guns, and it still won&#039;t matter.  Once they&#039;ve decided to both kill themselves AND plan the murder of many others, they&#039;ll get the guns from somewhere.
 
How do you identify a mass murderer before the fact?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The horror of an evil mind that can murder twenty kindergarten children is beyond me.<br />
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It&#8217;s bad enough to contemplate a shooter who murders all the innocent people in a movie theater in Aurora.  Or the high school freaks who murdered teachers and classmates in Columbine.<br />
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It&#8217;s easy to categorically blame guns, or mental illness.  As to mental illness, there are hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, of mentally ill people out there, and THEY don&#8217;t grab guns and decide to slaughter as many other people as they can get away with, let alone six-year-old children. I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;re close to identifying the exact cause or causes that drive these certain types of people to murder as many other innocent people as they can before they kill themselves.  I suspect it begins with some extreme form of narcissism, to the point of viewing all other people around you as objects to be manipulated rather than as people. <br />
 <br />
From all indications, this murderer would have passed any test you could reasonably come up with to deny an adult gun ownership.  Otherwise you&#8217;ll be restricting gun ownership to only the most provably stable people you can find, according to some expensive battery of psychological tests &#8211; and even then I bet you&#8217;ll find mass-murdering killers slipping through the cracks even in THAT unworkable system.<br />
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Deny them personal ownership of guns, and it still won&#8217;t matter.  Once they&#8217;ve decided to both kill themselves AND plan the murder of many others, they&#8217;ll get the guns from somewhere.<br />
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How do you identify a mass murderer before the fact?<br />
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		<title>By: JohnC</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 03:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This man&#039;s alias on Youtube is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/user/nutnfancy?feature=watch&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;nutnfancy.&lt;/a&gt;
He used to fly refueling tankers in the Air Force.
This video was posted a few hours ago.
It says everything I want to say only far better.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE7I6B13QSg]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This man&#8217;s alias on Youtube is <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/nutnfancy?feature=watch" rel="nofollow">nutnfancy.</a><br />
He used to fly refueling tankers in the Air Force.<br />
This video was posted a few hours ago.<br />
It says everything I want to say only far better.<br />
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