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	<title>Comments on: Found it on Facebook:  gay marriage is not a libertarian value</title>
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		<title>By: Charles Martel</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2013/01/09/found-it-on-facebook-gay-marriage-is-not-a-libertarian-value/comment-page-1/#comment-150705</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Martel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 18:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s assume polyamory and polygamy become legally protected forms of marriage. The next step will be a movement to challenge the notion that the government has the right to interfere with people&#039;s affections by insisting that one must be married before one can enjoy marriage&#039;s legal rights. How dare the government stand in the way of my rights if I choose to enjoy the sexual favors of several women (or men) at one time without wanting to jump through some legal hoop by signing a silly piece of paper?

We already have a proto form of this type of government recognition, namely the extension of financial support to polyamorous barrio, ghetto, and trailer park girls who love havin&#039; them babies without necessarily knowing who the baby daddies are. Now there&#039;s a case of the government minding its own business!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s assume polyamory and polygamy become legally protected forms of marriage. The next step will be a movement to challenge the notion that the government has the right to interfere with people&#8217;s affections by insisting that one must be married before one can enjoy marriage&#8217;s legal rights. How dare the government stand in the way of my rights if I choose to enjoy the sexual favors of several women (or men) at one time without wanting to jump through some legal hoop by signing a silly piece of paper?</p>
<p>We already have a proto form of this type of government recognition, namely the extension of financial support to polyamorous barrio, ghetto, and trailer park girls who love havin&#8217; them babies without necessarily knowing who the baby daddies are. Now there&#8217;s a case of the government minding its own business!</p>
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		<title>By: USMaleSF</title>
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		<dc:creator>USMaleSF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 18:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Although the promoters of &quot;marriage equality&quot; jump up and down denying that making gender of the participants irrelevant in marriage would lead to making number of participants irrelevant, I see no grounds in reality for saying yes to one and no to the other. 


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although the promoters of &#8220;marriage equality&#8221; jump up and down denying that making gender of the participants irrelevant in marriage would lead to making number of participants irrelevant, I see no grounds in reality for saying yes to one and no to the other. </p>
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		<title>By: Bookworm Room &#187; In France, anti-gay marriage voices emerge &#8212; from gays</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2013/01/09/found-it-on-facebook-gay-marriage-is-not-a-libertarian-value/comment-page-1/#comment-150703</link>
		<dc:creator>Bookworm Room &#187; In France, anti-gay marriage voices emerge &#8212; from gays</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 18:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Yesterday, I posted about the differences between gay sex (which is none of my business, so you can do what you like) and gay marriage (which is a significant state institution that cannot be treated in a libertarian way).  I was not arguing against gay marriage, per se, although I do have different ideas than most about ways in which committed same-sex partners can confirm their status so as to ensure equal treatment under the law. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Yesterday, I posted about the differences between gay sex (which is none of my business, so you can do what you like) and gay marriage (which is a significant state institution that cannot be treated in a libertarian way).  I was not arguing against gay marriage, per se, although I do have different ideas than most about ways in which committed same-sex partners can confirm their status so as to ensure equal treatment under the law. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Lemieux</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny Lemieux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 18:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To your point, USMaleSF, the next battle lines are already forming to build on the &quot;gay marriage&quot; victory: groups are already coalescing to promote polygamy and polyamory &quot;rights&quot;. 
http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/polyamory-the-next-civil-rights-movement
As Book put it so perfectly, marriage is not about giving adults legal bennies. It&#039;s about creating a nurturing environment that uplifts and protects children.
All the legal issues that gay couples are upset about (often rightly) can be dealt with separately in the legislatures and courts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To your point, USMaleSF, the next battle lines are already forming to build on the &#8220;gay marriage&#8221; victory: groups are already coalescing to promote polygamy and polyamory &#8220;rights&#8221;. <br />
<a href="http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/polyamory-the-next-civil-rights-movement" rel="nofollow">http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/polyamory-the-next-civil-rights-movement</a><br />
As Book put it so perfectly, marriage is not about giving adults legal bennies. It&#8217;s about creating a nurturing environment that uplifts and protects children.<br />
All the legal issues that gay couples are upset about (often rightly) can be dealt with separately in the legislatures and courts.</p>
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		<title>By: 11B40</title>
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		<dc:creator>11B40</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 18:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Greetings:
 
And if you...
Don&#039;t like paying for the medical consequences of someone else&#039;s homosex...???]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings:<br />
 <br />
And if you&#8230;<br />
Don&#8217;t like paying for the medical consequences of someone else&#8217;s homosex&#8230;???</p>
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		<title>By: USMaleSF</title>
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		<dc:creator>USMaleSF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 17:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gay marriage, which I prefer to call genderless marriage, is one of the results of feminism. I call it genderless because it asserts that gender is irrelevant to an institution which to my wondering eyes still appears to be utterly founded on gender difference, sexual opposition, the conditions for childbirth and childrearing. And in pursuit of female power, feminism has tried, with huge and toxic success, to get us* to believe that men and women are interchangeable, that is, &quot;equal.&quot; Men and women are equal now, except for those situations where women are superior to men or feel victimized by men. That&#039;s the rule.
Plus, no-fault divorce effectively made the marriage commitment a joke. So the field was well sown.

Gay marriage is just one more battle in the gender wars, which are themselves part of the larger Liberal drive to dismantle the West.
*us does not mean everyone. If you want to find a place where male/female opposition still thrives, just look to the Blacks, where their huge cultural dysfunction is fueled in part by ancient but skewed and pathological notions of sex differences.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gay marriage, which I prefer to call genderless marriage, is one of the results of feminism. I call it genderless because it asserts that gender is irrelevant to an institution which to my wondering eyes still appears to be utterly founded on gender difference, sexual opposition, the conditions for childbirth and childrearing. And in pursuit of female power, feminism has tried, with huge and toxic success, to get us* to believe that men and women are interchangeable, that is, &#8220;equal.&#8221; Men and women are equal now, except for those situations where women are superior to men or feel victimized by men. That&#8217;s the rule.<br />
Plus, no-fault divorce effectively made the marriage commitment a joke. So the field was well sown.</p>
<p>Gay marriage is just one more battle in the gender wars, which are themselves part of the larger Liberal drive to dismantle the West.<br />
*us does not mean everyone. If you want to find a place where male/female opposition still thrives, just look to the Blacks, where their huge cultural dysfunction is fueled in part by ancient but skewed and pathological notions of sex differences.<br />
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