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		<title>By: The Point Collectivists Miss: The STATE Does Not Love You! &#171; Thoughts from a Useless Eater</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Point Collectivists Miss: The STATE Does Not Love You! &#171; Thoughts from a Useless Eater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jun 2013 10:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] after reading an article pointing to one of the biggest fallacies of collectivized healthcare: &#8220;When it Comes to End of Life Decisions, the State Does Not Love You.&#8221; Here is what I [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] after reading an article pointing to one of the biggest fallacies of collectivized healthcare: &#8220;When it Comes to End of Life Decisions, the State Does Not Love You.&#8221; Here is what I [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The compassion of the welfare state&#8230; &#171; BornLib&#039;s Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>The compassion of the welfare state&#8230; &#171; BornLib&#039;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 23:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] As Bookworm says, &#8220;When it comes to end of life decisions, the state does not love you&#8220; [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: News of the Week for Jan. 27th, 2013 &#124; The Political Hat</title>
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		<dc:creator>News of the Week for Jan. 27th, 2013 &#124; The Political Hat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 21:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] When it comes to end of life decisions, the state does not love you Many years ago, when Holland first enacted its euthanasia law, NPR ran an interview with a Dutchman who explained why euthanasia was a good idea in Holland, while it would be a terrible idea in America. The secret to Holland’s euthanasia, he said, was socialized medicine. The man explained that, in America, where medical costs could bankrupt families, those with terminal illnesses could be actively or passively coerced into turning to euthanasia in order to save their family’s finances. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] When it comes to end of life decisions, the state does not love you Many years ago, when Holland first enacted its euthanasia law, NPR ran an interview with a Dutchman who explained why euthanasia was a good idea in Holland, while it would be a terrible idea in America. The secret to Holland’s euthanasia, he said, was socialized medicine. The man explained that, in America, where medical costs could bankrupt families, those with terminal illnesses could be actively or passively coerced into turning to euthanasia in order to save their family’s finances. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: When it comes to end of life decisions, the state does not love you &#171; A Moral Outrage</title>
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		<dc:creator>When it comes to end of life decisions, the state does not love you &#171; A Moral Outrage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2013 17:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: When it comes to end of life decisions, the state does not love you &#124; Bookworm Room &#8211; the Conservative Top 10</title>
		<link>http://www.bookwormroom.com/2013/01/23/when-it-comes-to-end-of-life-decisions-the-state-does-not-love-you/comment-page-1/#comment-151347</link>
		<dc:creator>When it comes to end of life decisions, the state does not love you &#124; Bookworm Room &#8211; the Conservative Top 10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2013 00:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MacG</title>
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		<dc:creator>MacG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 17:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sacrifices without the consent of the sacrificee occurred in the Aztec world with great regularity amongst other tribes  even in other lands.  Usually these were the human spoils of war so it cost the Aztecs nothing in terms of sacrifice but it was still a sacrificed life. To whom and for whom was the sacrifice being made?
 
Thou shall do no murder.  Not thou shall not kill.  This affords self defense.  I see for sure life of the mother as self defense.  Rape and incest can fall under this category as far as I am concerned.  Although I have a good friend who is the product of a date-rape (an oxymoron if I ever heard one) who is raising 4 kids of his own and his community is better off because he and his family are in it.
 
I sincerely doubt that 55 million abortions were for these reasons.  I hear cries of there some who would bring us back &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/22/opinion/leeches-lye-and-spanish-fly.html?nl=todaysheadlines&amp;emc=edit_th_20130122&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;to back alley abortions&lt;/a&gt; etc. but then we do not not have the same intense societal shame that we once had either so I figure that those would be &lt;a href=&quot;http://realchoice.0catch.com/library/history/aahxpt2prn.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;reduced from the exaggerated 10000 women have died&lt;/a&gt; in such abortions during RvW.  Medicine is risky business.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sacrifices without the consent of the sacrificee occurred in the Aztec world with great regularity amongst other tribes  even in other lands.  Usually these were the human spoils of war so it cost the Aztecs nothing in terms of sacrifice but it was still a sacrificed life. To whom and for whom was the sacrifice being made?<br />
 <br />
Thou shall do no murder.  Not thou shall not kill.  This affords self defense.  I see for sure life of the mother as self defense.  Rape and incest can fall under this category as far as I am concerned.  Although I have a good friend who is the product of a date-rape (an oxymoron if I ever heard one) who is raising 4 kids of his own and his community is better off because he and his family are in it.<br />
 <br />
I sincerely doubt that 55 million abortions were for these reasons.  I hear cries of there some who would bring us back <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/22/opinion/leeches-lye-and-spanish-fly.html?nl=todaysheadlines&amp;emc=edit_th_20130122" rel="nofollow">to back alley abortions</a> etc. but then we do not not have the same intense societal shame that we once had either so I figure that those would be <a href="http://realchoice.0catch.com/library/history/aahxpt2prn.htm" rel="nofollow">reduced from the exaggerated 10000 women have died</a> in such abortions during RvW.  Medicine is risky business.<br />
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		<title>By: Brinker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 16:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Given that the state has taken for itself the power to end, or to allow others to end without consequence, the lives of the innocent then what, precisely, is the relation of a citizen to said state?  I&#039;ll suggest that it is not a relationship of a free person possessed of individual liberty to a sovereign whose power derives from his consent.  Rather, if our very lives may be terminated at the whim of the state and not as a result of some misdeed, then we are rather more like chattels. 
In light of the present US sanction of abortion on demand, terminating lives nearest their very beginning, it should come as no surprise that Ezekiel Emmanuel, one of Barack Obama&#039;s close advisers on matters of health care and an architect of the Affordable Care Act, exhibits a similar callous disregard of the value of our lives at later points.  In a preview of what we in the US can expect from the ACA, he has advocated most strongly for provisioning the most expensive care based upon the value of a person to the state with newborns and the elderly having little or no value and those early in their working years the most.  Be prepared America, Britain&#039;s Liverpool Care Pathway won&#039;t be a rounding error compared to what is about to happen here.
And yes, I concur with and will say explicitly what the author has strongly implied: once the state takes unto itself the power over the life &amp; death of the innocent it is a short step to tyranny and its attendant horrors.  Ask yourself: How valuable would the state find me during a global famine?  A natural disaster?  The aftermath of war? Would the elimination of my carbon footprint serve the &quot;greater good&quot; in the eyes of the elites?  It&#039;s not merely a slippery slope, it&#039;s one we have already descended; it&#039;s just that the consequences of our choices are not yet apparent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given that the state has taken for itself the power to end, or to allow others to end without consequence, the lives of the innocent then what, precisely, is the relation of a citizen to said state?  I&#8217;ll suggest that it is not a relationship of a free person possessed of individual liberty to a sovereign whose power derives from his consent.  Rather, if our very lives may be terminated at the whim of the state and not as a result of some misdeed, then we are rather more like chattels. <br />
In light of the present US sanction of abortion on demand, terminating lives nearest their very beginning, it should come as no surprise that Ezekiel Emmanuel, one of Barack Obama&#8217;s close advisers on matters of health care and an architect of the Affordable Care Act, exhibits a similar callous disregard of the value of our lives at later points.  In a preview of what we in the US can expect from the ACA, he has advocated most strongly for provisioning the most expensive care based upon the value of a person to the state with newborns and the elderly having little or no value and those early in their working years the most.  Be prepared America, Britain&#8217;s Liverpool Care Pathway won&#8217;t be a rounding error compared to what is about to happen here.<br />
And yes, I concur with and will say explicitly what the author has strongly implied: once the state takes unto itself the power over the life &amp; death of the innocent it is a short step to tyranny and its attendant horrors.  Ask yourself: How valuable would the state find me during a global famine?  A natural disaster?  The aftermath of war? Would the elimination of my carbon footprint serve the &#8220;greater good&#8221; in the eyes of the elites?  It&#8217;s not merely a slippery slope, it&#8217;s one we have already descended; it&#8217;s just that the consequences of our choices are not yet apparent.</p>
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		<title>By: Fr. Callaghan&#039;s Sermon Footnotes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fr. Callaghan&#039;s Sermon Footnotes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 16:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] UPDATE: Somebody else puts it all rather better that I can. [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: theBuckWheat</title>
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		<dc:creator>theBuckWheat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 16:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is so simple a child can understand it.
Europe, under the Treaty of Lisbon, officially rejects capitalism and instead adopted a form of fascism (soft socialism) it calls &quot;social market economy&quot;.  
When sufficient socialism is imposed on an economy, citizens on balance over their lives, cost the government more than they can produce.  The more citizens, the slower the economy grows until the economy goes into decline.  We see this at this very moment in Italy and Greece.
By the very nature of free market capitalism, the more people who are engaged in the economy, the more wealth society can create.  
Thus, socialist governments have subtle incentives to reduce and eliminate as many citizens as possible without destroying their ability to stay in power.  Old people who don&#039;t vote and unborn children are very easy targets under these perverse economic incentives.
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so simple a child can understand it.<br />
Europe, under the Treaty of Lisbon, officially rejects capitalism and instead adopted a form of fascism (soft socialism) it calls &#8220;social market economy&#8221;.  <br />
When sufficient socialism is imposed on an economy, citizens on balance over their lives, cost the government more than they can produce.  The more citizens, the slower the economy grows until the economy goes into decline.  We see this at this very moment in Italy and Greece.<br />
By the very nature of free market capitalism, the more people who are engaged in the economy, the more wealth society can create.  <br />
Thus, socialist governments have subtle incentives to reduce and eliminate as many citizens as possible without destroying their ability to stay in power.  Old people who don&#8217;t vote and unborn children are very easy targets under these perverse economic incentives.<br />
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		<title>By: Instapundit &#187; Blog Archive &#187; WHEN IT COMES TO END-OF-LIFE DECISIONS, The State Does Not Love You. &#8220;First, socialist states invar&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Instapundit &#187; Blog Archive &#187; WHEN IT COMES TO END-OF-LIFE DECISIONS, The State Does Not Love You. &#8220;First, socialist states invar&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 15:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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