Liberals and the last real war
Bookworm on May 21 2008 at 4:13 pm | Filed under: Uncategorized
Ann Coulter’s column today deals with the still echoing liberal shrieks about Bush’s speech to the Knesset. It’s an okay column with one stellar paragraph:
Liberals think all real tyrants ended with Hitler and act as if they would have known all along not to appease him. Next time is always different for people who refuse to learn from history. As Air America’s Mark Green said: “Look, Hitler was Hitler.” (Which, I admit, threw me for a loop: I thought Air America’s position is that Bush is Hitler.)
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Conservatives think they have an infallible ability to predict the next Hitler and act as if the pre-emptive attack on Iraq prevented the death of 30 million innocent people despite all evidence to the contrary. Next time is always the same for people who refuse to learn from history. To wit, Air America’s position was that Coulter is a fascist.
No echeccone, conservatives do not believe they have an infallible ability to predict the next Hitler. And I have yet to meet a single conservative who believes that the attack on Iraq prevented the death of 30 million innocent people. The fact is that evidence here and any many other countries pointed to the very real possibility that Saddam Hussein had the ability and desire to support attacks that would kill many innocents. Preventing that real possibility was only one of the reasons that the decision was made to go to war.
Conservatives simply prefer not to wait until situations become so dire that it costs exponentially more blood and resources to stop later what could have been stopped earlier with less heartache and treasure.
Deana
Here’s what some religious leaders of the “progressive” persuasion were actually saying about Nazi Germany back in the late 1930s and early 1940s.
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David, I sourced that Loconte article. Your link didn’t work for me.
http://www.heritage.org/Press/Commentary/ed040103.cfm?RenderforPrint=1
I never heard the meme that the invasion of Iraq prevented the death of 30 million people. I think it succeeded in ousting a belligerent, genuinely fascist Ba’ath regime that intended to restart its weapons programs as soon as sanctions were dropped. And it may yet succeed in creating a stable Iraq.
Conservatives think they have an infallible ability to predict the next Hitler and act as if the pre-emptive attack on Iraq prevented the death of 30 million innocent people despite all evidence to the contrary.
This coming from a guy that ridicules body language professionals because he is totally ignorant about the field of body language study?
OIF liberated 22 million people. You may ridicule the lives of 20 or 30 million people all you want, EC, but people’s lives aren’t valuable just because you think terrorism needs to kill somebody to take their life away. People’s lives are valuable because they can be improved and terrorism does not improve the life of anyone, not even the suicide bomber terrorists.
I also would like to bring people’s attention to the fact that most Statists, when you threaten their beliefs and political positions, go on the attack rather than attempting to defend their own policies on the merits.
So EC, instead of defending his views on Hitler and BUsh, or differentiating his views from the Left’s view of Bushitler, went directly to the attack and parody. That is, of course, par for the course.
“To wit, Air America’s position was that Coulter is a fascist.” Let’s see – Ann Coulter believes in smaller, more localized government, strict constructionism with regard to the constitution, the First Amendment, free-markets….a fascist? Air America’s Alice-in-Wonderland position demonstrates only the damage that it continues to do to civil discourse and the English language.
I don’t actually believe the post I wrote. It merely highlights, by mirroring, just how silly Coulter’s claim is. Like Deana, I’ve never met any conservative who thinks that the Iraq War saved 30M lives. But I also haven’t met a Liberal that thinks that another Hitler could not emerge. To say that Iraq’s former dictator and Iran’s current dictator are not like Hitler and pose a threat less than Hitler does not mean that one has not learned from history. It means that one has drawn a different balance between the risk of a false negative (Hitler) and a false positive (Saddam Hussein). The bit about Air America thinking Coulter is a fascist is true, however; I heard Franken make it.
Echeccone, it is quite clear that Al Franken must be an enlightened paragon of liberal reason, swimming gamely in a sea of circling fascists.
Now, if only he would take his meds, not to mention pay his taxes and employees’ workers comp obligations.
http://www.startribune.com/politics/state/18377884.html?location_refer=Error
Oooo…more on Al Franken. A true class act that should add some liveliness to the U.S. Senate, dontchathink?
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/sex-writing-by-franken-cited-in-race-2008-05-22.html
Between Al Franken, Randi Rhodes [http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/04/10/host-randi-rhodes-resigns-from-air-america-after-anti-clinton-rant/] and Bernie Ward [http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/12/06/BAFHTPMQD.DTL&tsp=1],
….who’s there left to go to if your a decent, thinking Liberal/Lefty looking for thoughtful radio commentary? I can understand the frustration.
To say that Iraq’s former dictator and Iran’s current dictator are not like Hitler and pose a threat less than Hitler does not mean that one has not learned from history.
When you consider them less of a threat than your local ganglord, does it really matter whether you claim that you see them as a “threat” or not given the context of your claims?
I don’t actually believe the post I wrote.
You really can’t slime your way out of statements and claims just by saying, ala Al Franken, “I was just kidding”.