• http://helenl.wordpress.com/ Helen Losse

    So McCain can talk about Ayers because now he’s an issue? I though issues were different from people. Guess that’s the progressive in me. Can tell the difference from a person and an issue. :-)

    McCain’s about by any means necessary.

  • Mike Devx

    Let’s take a look at Obama’s quote today. Pardon me for parsing it.

    Fasten your seat belts, hang on, and let’s go!

    “I’ll repeat again what I’ve said many times. This is a guy who engaged in some despicable acts 40 years ago when I was eight years old. By the time I met him, 10 or 15 years ago, he was a college professor of education at the University of Illinois,” Obama said.

    No, Barack, you are not repeating what you’ve said many times. This is what is known as a variation, not a repetition. We see this sly maneuvering over and over from Barack, as he continually shifts his position, yet demanding that you not see the shift. He’s very good at this.

    Next up: “Some despicable acts” is a phrase that hides what Ayers and Doern actually did. He moves swiftly on, so you don’t have time to think about it.

    But the classic diversion comes next: “By the time I met him….”
    Pardon me! MET HIM! MET HIM??? This is a real howler of a diversion. Mr. Obama, you did not merely “meet him”. You and he met many times, and sat on several boards together, and wrote the bylaws of one of those boards… together.

    And then, when it was time for you to enter politics, William Ayers and his wife Berdanine Doern launched your career from their own living room!

    “The notion that somehow he has been involved in my campaign, that he is an adviser of mine, that . . . I’ve ‘palled around with a terrorist’, all these statements are made simply to try to score cheap political points.”

    The first two notions, no one is claiming. What orifice did Obama pull those two notions out of?

    By the time Baracki Wan Kenobi gets done with these Jedi mind tricks on you, you’ve gone all fuzzy and vague. “What the hell did he just say? What did he just do to my brain?” is about the best you might be able to come up with, unless you get a chance to read the paragraphs, study the structure, parse the words.

    I hope John McCain gets a chance to appoint Barack ambassador to France. He’ll have them so helplessly confused they’ll surrender even before they get into a war.

  • Ymarsakar

    McCain’s about by any means necessary.

    No, I’m by any means necessary. McCain’s about any means that isn’t torture, corruption, and partisanship.

    You can see the difference, I hope.

  • Ymarsakar

    So McCain can talk about Ayers because now he’s an issue?

    Uh, no. As Book said, McCain has been saving up his big bombs for the last 100 meters.

    Where you have been, helen? Do you know that political ads cost money? Do you know that there’s generally a strategy of some sort behind a political campaign?

    What are you surprised about simply because it is McCain-Palin now?

    Ayers has been an issue with Republicans for months now, helen. Where have you been.

  • Oldflyer

    Helen, you are not that out of touch, surely. But just in case let me explain. The RELATIONSHIP between Obama and Ayers is the issue. Let me explain further. It is an issue because Ayers, and his even more despicable wife, declared war on the United States. They have never recanted that declaration. Ayers has simply stopped using bombs, presumably, and gone to other tatics such as subverting our educational system.

    But Ayers isn’t the only, or even the most important issue. It is the pattern of Obama’s relationships. There is a strong thread that runs through it. Ayers, Wright, Said, the rogue Priest, et al. These people have one thing in common. They have declared their hatred for “white America”. You know the 80+ per cent of America that many of us are part of. Does Obama share their radical hatred? Who knows? Now that he wants to be President he says not. When he wrote his books it wasn’t so clear.

    The issue is compounded by his secrecy. Very little of Obama has been revealed. So much is deliberately hidden. Some is dribbling out at the last minute. How much is still hidden? Who the hell is this guy? We have a right to know.

    (Some people excuse the hatred I cited above as justified. Don’t go there. Doesn’t matter whether it is or is not, or to what degree. This is a Presidential election. We do not have to, and we must not, choose someone who might conceivably harbor such an attitude himself, or be sympathetic to those who do.)

    There is another “issue”. That is corruption. ACORN; Rezko; Freddy Mac and Fannie Mae–and the $126,000 in campaign contributions to Obama, IN JUST THREE YEARS, from this corrupt step-child of Congress; the Millions of dollars in mysterious campaign contributions from unknown parts of the world; The Chicago machine. Corruption is a very strong thread in Obama’s narritive.

    Let me say one more thing about the corruption. If you excuse everything else you cannot overlook his primary Agent of Change-ACORN. This radical organization is working hard to undermine the integrity of our entire electoral system. Don’t tell me he has nothing to do with that. His campaign contributed $800,000 to ACORN for its services. They did so to enable ACORN to do exactly what they are in the midst of doing. If they destroy faith in the electoral system, they have a taken a major step toward destroying American democracy.

    These are the stakes in this campaign. Meanwhile a large segment of the voting population says, “pass the Kool Aid”.

    McCain will do anything? Oh please. I have sent numerous emails to his campaign pleading that he focus on the ISSUES I have discussed above. For some reason he is very reluctant to do so, and it is going to cost the country dearly. He will be disappointed, and I will be sad. But, we have both passed our 72nd birthday; we have had a life-time to enjoy this country. Our children and grandchildren will pay the price.

  • Tiresias

    I’ll try to simplify this for you, Helen.

    How do you feel about Timothy McVeigh?

    The only differences between McVeigh and Ayers and Dorhn are:

    1. McVeigh bathed; and
    2. he was a hell of a lot better and more efficient than Ayers and Dorhn. By comparison with him they were clowns. (Their bomb-maker blew himself up [though Ayers and Dorhn managed to be out when the Greenwich Village house went up, so maybe they can lay claim to some species of brain] and returned to earth in a shower of small pieces.)

    Other than the fact that he was cleaner, better at it, and more successful than they were – no difference. (Oh, and he also didn’t find it necessary to fill the air with BS justifying himself via political manifestos. He just built the bomb and set it off.)

    In fact this probably renders him considerably more admirable than Ayers and Dorhn.

    Ayers was always an issue: you just didn’t know it.

  • Oldflyer

    Actually there is one other difference Tiresias. McVeigh was tried and executed. Ayers is still alive to practice his subversion in other ways.