Do not give up on Tuesday, no matter what the media says *UPDATED*

To voters living west of the Mississippi (or, as Mark Steyn says, west of Florida):

Please, please, please remember that the media will try to depress voting west of the Mississippi by announcing at about mid-day that Obama is leading overwhelmingly — with the implication that people in the later time zones should just give up and not bother to go to the polls.

No matter what the media is saying, and no matter the time of day, if you live West of the Mississippi VOTE, VOTE, VOTE, VOTE, VOTE.

Worst case scenario:  Even if Obama is truly in the lead (as opposed to being placed there as part of the media’s psy-ops), there are always local elections that matter and, when it comes to Congress and the Senate, EVERY VOTE COUNTS.

Thank you.

And remember, it may not be over until the very last second:

UPDATE:  So much not to my surprise, Dafydd at Big Lizards figured out this danger and warned against it long before I didHe also has some cheerful poll interpretations, so keep your chin up, your upper lip stiff, and your spirits high.

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22 Responses to “Do not give up on Tuesday, no matter what the media says *UPDATED*”

  1. on 02 Nov 2008 at 8:48 pm Ellie2

    No matter where you live, no matter how long the lines, no matter what you hear on the news, VOTE!

    Liberty is never more than one generation away from extinction. VOTE!

    If you or your family came to America to escape persecution, VOTE! If you or your family came to America to escape famine, VOTE!

  2. on 02 Nov 2008 at 9:11 pm Mike Devx

    As Book warns, I’m putting no trust in polls. Absolutely none.

    Here’s an interesting final roundup of Mason-Dixon polls that you can use for whatever purpose you wish. Remember that all polls are including in their weightings a significantly higher Democrat advantage than ever before, because they believe the Democrat turnout machine is far superior to the Republican one.

    Change the weights by even 2%, and even if you assume the pollsters are being honest, you’ve got an astounding narrative that the mainstream media will not report on. Also add in the fact that Republicans are likely to be more non-responsive to phone surveys… There’s every reason for hope and a reasonable level of optimism! And VOTE VOTE VOTE!

    Here’s the excerpt which I pulled from gatewaypundit.blogspot.com.
    (Note the reference to Politico. I consider them
    THE most blatant of supposedly reputable news websites, actually. I had to unsubscribe from their email news notifications a month ago, it was becoming so sickeningly bad.)

    The excerpt:

    Here are the final numbers from the Politico state polling:

    The final round of Mason-Dixon polls has Obama enjoying small leads in the red states that would deliver him the presidency, but he’s below 50 percent in each and there are enough white undecided voters to leave some too close to call.

    Colorado: Obama 49, McCain 44, Undecided 4
    Florida: Obama 47, McCain 45, Undecided 7
    Nevada: Obama 47, McCain 43, Undecided 8
    Pennsylvania: Obama 47, McCain 43, Undecided 9
    Virginia: Obama 47, McCain 44, Undecided 9
    Ohio: McCain 47, Obama 45, Undecided 6
    Missouri: McCain 47, Obama 46, Undecided 5
    North Carolina: McCain 49, Obama 46, Undecided 5

    Heh, and note the blatantly racist comment just prior to the actual poll numbers:
    there are enough white undecided voters to leave some too close to call

    I’ve gotten so used to the racism everywhere on the left that I didn’t even see that the first time I read through!

  3. on 02 Nov 2008 at 9:16 pm Bookworm

    Well, there’s where I’m different from you, Mike: I immediately caught that little racist line — and was offended by it. I don’t vote by skin color. Keeping in mind Martin Luther King’s creed, I vote by the color of a person’s character (and, in the case of Obama, his red, red politics).

    I continue to be cautiously optimistic. I believe that, barring Chicago-style Democratic turn-out at the polls (120% of all registered voters, including the dead and imaginary), there is a possibility that McCain can win. And even if he doesn’t, I believe that Obama won’t get the all Democratic Senate and House he envisions.

    VOTE, VOTE, VOTE, VOTE, VOTE, VOTE, VOTE, VOTE, VOTE, VOTE, VOTE, VOTE

  4. on 02 Nov 2008 at 9:17 pm Mike Devx

    Sorry about the excessive bold stuff. I misused the tags.

    Also, I forgot to mention that there’s strong suspicion that undecideds will break for McCain strongly, at a 2:1 rate or even higher. This has nothing to do with racism. The idea is that:

    1 - This race has turned into a referendum on Obama. Most voters recognize that they actually know very little about Obama. His supporters have bought into the amorphous “hope and change” argument; the undecideds clearly have not! If the undecideds are not convinced yet, what is it going to take to convince them?

    2 - The undecideds have been subjected to an overwhelming tsunami of Obama campaign ads and positive media spin. And yet they remain undecided. Again: If the undecideds are not convinced yet, what is it going to take to convince them?

    To go against the media spin onslaught is to be a public rebel, so perhaps they simply say, “Eh, I’m undecided.” But in the privacy of the voting booth…

  5. on 02 Nov 2008 at 9:17 pm suek

    Never considered not voting.

    Ever.

    Even if it’s in the bag - which it sort of is since I live in California - but I’m going to vote anyway.

    And four years from now, I’m going to be voting in favor of purple ink(indelible) on the fingers for anyone who votes!!

    And I’m beginning to think that absentee voting should be a no-no. If voting is important to you, schedule so that Nov 4th is freed up. If you’re not able to get to a polling place, maybe you shouldn’t vote. Some of the stories about people who are incompetent…shocking.

  6. on 02 Nov 2008 at 9:38 pm Charles Martel

    suek, I’m with you: I will vote no matter what.

    I know my vote in Marin is like a gnat pissing in the Pacific, but dammit, I’m gonna take a whiz anyway.

    I want Chance Obama Gardener to see that even in the belly of the beast that he owns lock, stock and barrel, some people aren’t fooled.

  7. on 02 Nov 2008 at 10:09 pm 1Lulu

    The polls are skewed this year- and Obama has just been exposed in some coal producing states- PA and Ohio being 2 of them.

    VOTE!, but If you can, volunteer at your local Republican HQ to phone people and remind them to VOTE VOTE VOTE!

  8. on 03 Nov 2008 at 1:51 am Al

    For those who have not seen it, there is an interesting piece the AT blog archives.
    At the top of the AT October 2008 blog archives there is a note called Notes From A Battleground State. As the AT comments, it could just be campaign misinformation,
    but the tone is consistent with Ed Rendel’s call to Obama to revisit Pennsylvania because things are not all that rosey for him there.
    And of course, my first destination out the door on Tuesday is my polling place.
    Al

  9. on 03 Nov 2008 at 4:40 am Quisp

    As Zombie said, (via Bill Whittle)

    It may very well be that an army of glum, dispirited and pessimistic conservatives will reluctantly trudge to the polls on November 4, each one imagining they are the only remaining person in the entire country voting for McCain, and lo and behold — they’ll turn out to be a silent majority after all.

    http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=M2FhYzkwYmQ5ZjI2ZmQ4OGY0NGFiOWNjYmQzYTViMDM=

  10. [...] Do not give up on Tuesday, no matter what the media says [...]

  11. on 03 Nov 2008 at 7:17 am ExPreacherMan

    Book,

    Again, I borrowed (and added to) your great post without permission. Thanks. ;-)

    SueK, please don’t propose disenfranchising those of us who are disabled and unable to stand in long lines. We who are blessed with infirmities and pushing 80 need the ability to vote absentee..

    And all this talk of VOTE.. How about narrowing it down…

    VOTE CONSERVATIVE… VOTE PALIN!

    Thanks, Book, for allowing me to be a friendly thief.

    In Christ,

    ExP(Jack)

  12. on 03 Nov 2008 at 7:57 am loveparadiseforyou

    It’s quite overwhelming to see how the statistics of youth voters increased drastically. And the research suggests that the majority of the youth voters who never bothered to solicit their votes earlier are enthusiastic about voting – for Obama!!

    But the bitter truth is - No matter what the media says (that OBAMA is leading) But, still I am skeptical about he winning the elections. I was shocked when Bush was re elected for the second term though the media, news all of them predicted opposite of it.

    ** It’s been a long time when I last participated in the debate on BookwormRoom.
    The possibility is that you guys must have already discussed what I just posted here. :-///

  13. on 03 Nov 2008 at 8:14 am suek

    >>SueK, please don’t propose disenfranchising those of us who are disabled and unable to stand in long lines. We who are blessed with infirmities and pushing 80 need the ability to vote absentee..>>

    I understand…but you must admit that the privilege encourages fraudulent voting. I’m thinking in particular of residence homes where the residents - who may or may not be mentally competent for whatever reason - are coached on how to vote by “assistants”. I’d rather see a policy that required an evaluation every couple of years for competency - like the requirement that you take a vision test every year after age xx (whatever it is) to get your driving license…or an actual driving test instead of just the show up and pay for a renewal. I’d rather have special accommodations made for those who are handicapped physically - how about a drive in voting booth? Special privileges - like going to the head of the line. Certainly infirmities and pushing 80 is no reason to curtail your voting privileges! I’d rather have you voting than the 25 and under crowd - I consider youth to be an infirmity in itself! one that is fortunately usually remedied with age!

    Of course…then you have all those young soldiers. They get to vote (in my country!) no matter what their age. I can’t believe that Congress is resisting making it easier for them to vote. That’s scandalous.

  14. on 03 Nov 2008 at 8:19 am BrianE

    John McCain has served his country with honor.
    John McCain deserves our vote.

    In spite of what the media would tell you, John McCain has a good economic plan to invigorate the “can do” spirit of America and move the country forward, not the “it’s our fault” rhetoric of the left.

    A man who endured unvelievable brutality as a prisoner of war, and yet has lived his life optomistic about the future of America will serve us well.

    http://explorations.chasrmartin.com/2008/11/02/why-ill-vote-for-mccain/

  15. on 03 Nov 2008 at 1:53 pm suek

    All of Books readers probably check out AT every day…

    But just in case you don’t…! Check these out today…

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/11/the_dems_election_day_aces_in.html

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/11/the_new_york_post_looks_back_o.html

  16. on 03 Nov 2008 at 6:37 pm Mike Devx

    >> the majority of the youth voters who never bothered to solicit their votes earlier are enthusiastic about voting – for Obama >>

    I remember my liberal college days. We were for John Anderson. “Who?” you may ask, and these days I wonder the same thing.

    If the youthful Obamites get their wish, they’re going to be a part of plunging us into the period of “hard, painful, concrete lessons” of an Obama Presidency with a Democrat Congress. And they’ll experience some of the worst of those harsh, concrete lessons: Deep economic troubles and a downward spiral do not benefit the youthful.

    Obama is nothing more than a weak mouthpiece, and the power players in Congress know this. They will ride roughshod over any attempt by him to take things slowly. As a leader, he’s a total joke. Worst for him, he will agree with everything they give him, but he just wants to spread it out over eight years, and he won’t be able to.

    If it all weren’t going to be so incredibly harmful to us all, it would be incredibly entertaining to watch.

    Therefore, VOTE FOR MCCAIN/PALIN!

    The stakes are so high. There’d no enjoyment to be found anywhere in the severe pain we all will suffer with an Obama victory.

    John McCain is a good man and a great patriot. He is conservative enough to support, especially when you consider the alternative. He is authentic and I know where he stands. I can trust John McCain.

    The polls keep narrowing and narrowing *and* they have severely overweighted their numbers already due to an expected Democrat turnout advantage. Don’t believe the hype! This election is totally up in the air. Tomorrow will be a very entertaining day if you don’t let the tension of it all get you down. For those looking at it purely as political theatre, tomorrow might be the most interesting political day of our entire lives.

    VOTE FOR MCCAIN/PALIN!

  17. on 04 Nov 2008 at 8:14 am suek

    Well…we’re here. The only good thing I can think about an Obama win - if it happens - is that we will soon be bankrupt. There will be misery for all and we’ll have to do it all over again. The only up side to that is that we know how. And if it comes to pass, we’ll _know_ what to look out for.

    I just hope it doesn’t take too many generations.

    And if McCain wins? Well, we has seen the enemy and he is us. We better get to work getting honest to goodness conservatives in office. Work like the Leftists have done, and fill the bureaucracies with our people, then vote for low level conservative politicians, and then move up the ladder. Learn to recognize other conservatives and organize with them. A certain amount of preference for individualism will have to be set aside in order to prevent an overload being foisted upon us.

    We can do it.

  18. on 04 Nov 2008 at 8:48 am Mike Devx

    >> A certain amount of preference for individualism will have to be set aside in order to prevent an overload being foisted upon us. >>

    SueK,
    We’ll all be debating *a lot* about the definition of conservatism going forward.

    Just one warning: How many conservatives would be comfortable with changing, in your statement above, the words “preference for individualism” with “anti-abortion preference”?

    >> A certain amount of anti-abortion preference will have to be set aside in order to prevent an overload being foisted upon us. >>

    Looks a little ugly, doesn’t it? That’s not my position; I’m just saying, let’s not get ahead of ourselves until we’ve all begun to thrash out the issues.

    Let’s have the vigorous, transformational debates starting Nov 5th! There are exciting, wonderful times leading into the 2010 Republican primaries, when we’ll all via our votes start defining precisely what the conservative resurgence is going to look like.

  19. on 04 Nov 2008 at 9:49 am suek

    Mike…I probably didn’t express it well.

    It’s my observation that conservatives tend to be “loners” to a certain extent. “You leave me alone and I’ll leave you alone” sort of person. Non-joiners. Liberals, on the other hand, seem to me to be joiners to the max…if there isn’t a group, they’ll form one. If you don’t belong to their group, then you’re the “other”. Not so to conservatives - they tend to just shrug their shoulders and move along. Look at the 60s - the beatniks, the hippies….they complained about the uniformity of dress of their elders, the suits and ties for business etc. They rebelled. So how did they rebel? Every dingdong one of the wore levis with rips (some even in the same places!) and tiedye shirts. If they _really_ wanted to be different, some of them would have worn suits among their compadres - but did they? no - because they didn’t really want to be _different_ - they just wanted to rebell and not wear what their parents told them they should wear.

    So, what I’m saying is that conservatives are going to have to overcome their preference for being loners a bit. You can’t really accomplish a great deal politically one by one - you need to be part of a cohesive group of some sort. It’s a physics kind of thing…force = mass x velocity. If you have no mass, you get no force. That’s kind of what the community activism is…acquiring mass. If we don’t do what we might prefer not to do, we might be forced to do what we don’t _want_ to do. Theoretically, if conservatives achieve success, they could go back to their preferences - as long as they keep some guards on duty in case action is again necessary!

  20. on 04 Nov 2008 at 12:10 pm BobK

    Here’s the rub, and it gives me some hope.

    I don’t hear any conservatives whining that, should Sen. Obama prevail today, they will flee the country.

    It may be because conservatives are patriots and have true devotion to our foundational principles; it may be that we’re just naturally stubborn; it may be that there’s simply no other place on this earth where our vision of a land of liberty can be realized. Whatever the reason, conservatives will stay, will unite, will work, and - ultimately (I believe) - will prevail in dragging this country back toward the principles to which our founding fathers mutually pledged their Lives, Fortunes and sacred Honor.

    Voting for Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin today is a step along the path. They’re not perfect, but who among us is?

    Today, my wife and I will go to our polling place (the last time I’ll have that opportunity in Washington state - the curse of all-mail voting is about to descend). I’ll pray before I go - for our country, and for our next president (regardless of who it is) because ultimately our only hope lies in our Creator, Redeemer and Comforter. I’ll take my children, so they can see that my wife and I make the exercise of the sovereign franchise a priority.

    And then I’ll wait and watch, and pray some more.

    VOTE FOR McCAIN/PALIN!

  21. on 04 Nov 2008 at 12:38 pm ExPreacherMan

    BobK is right..

    We pray, we work, we vote and when all is said and done,
    “our only hope lies in our Creator, Redeemer and Comforter. … and pray some more.”

    My 8 year old discerning Christian Conservative grandson, Tanner, has bugged his Mom for days to go vote with her. Daughter said no because lines would be long and tiring, etc. Son Tanner came home from school yesterday and said, “My Social Studies teacher said we would get an extra 10 points on the next test if we went with our parents to vote.” He is a straight A student and does not need the points but Daughter said, “Yes!”

    They went this morning, in and out in 14 minutes, ever after discussing the ballot, candidates, etc. He is a very discerning and aware Palin “voter” and discussed the Florida Fiasco, chads, crooked voting, etc.

    So for you guys who will be around in thirty five years, vote “Tanner for President” just for me (and your future).

    In Christ eternally,

    ExP(Jack)

  22. on 04 Nov 2008 at 2:25 pm Charles Martel

    When I was younger and stupider (I won’t say I’m completely cured of the latter), I was intrigued with Marxism. It was such a bright, gleaming solution to all the ills of the world (and human nature).

    One of the things I learned was the expression “heighten the contradictions,” a phase that wannabe Lenins back in my day used whenever they set out to bait the police into attacking peace marchers.

    By “heightening the contradiction” between the supposed protective role of the police and their baton-wielding attacks on helpless middle-class burghers, the burghers would come over to communism.

    Of course, ditzes that the Marxists are/were, they could not conceive that the concept works both ways. So, here’s my Marxist prediction:

    An Obama presidency, especially if it involves roles for thugs like Wright, Ayers and Dohrn, will heighten the contradiction between “hope and change” and a street-wise neo-Marxist administration that will *deliberately* weaken our economy, our freedoms and our ability to defend ourselves or our allies.

    For those of you who remember Altamont back in 1969, California’s homicide-inducing attempt to duplicate the mystique of Woodstock, you’ll understand what I told my yellow-dog Democrat wife this morning: “You have voted to go to Altamont. I’ve decided to stay home and get the medicine and hospital bed ready for your return.”

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