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  1. Zhombre says

    Betrayal will be the signature of the Obama Administration. He will either betray the moonbat left and the Democrat base, or betray the country. Having regarded Obama as the Empty Suit from Chicago from the get-go, I suspect the former. The deluded nitwits who voted for him, fulfilling that prophecy of the great American seer P.T. Barnum, were born to be screwed.

  2. Charles Martel says

    Some wag once said, “America, whatta country! It’s the only place where a white woman can give birth to a black baby but a black woman can never ever give birth to a white baby.”

    So here we have a president-elect who is considered all black, even though he’s half white, following in the footsteps of an all-white president whom many considered black.

    Is it any wonder why I, a conservative, am so frickin’ confused by this race stuff?

    I’m going to go out and find a leftist to explain it me.

    Oz, you there?

    Helen?

  3. says

    Hi Charles, It has more to do with social perception than melanin. It goes back to the days when people were described by per cent of “black blood.”

    If you look up “mulatto,” a person with one black parent and one white parent, you’ll find that it’s related to (it’s etymology suggests) the word “mule.” (see Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulatto) A mule is a hybrid but not in a good way: It’s sterile and, therefore, defective. These “half-breeds” were the result of miscegenation (sex relations between different racial groups). (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miscegenation). States enacted miscegenation laws to avoid such unions.

    But guess what? They were too late. Masters had bee raping their female slaves for years. So little mulatto children were already here in abundance.

    It isn’t that it’s impossible for a black woman to have white baby, it’s that the rule in slavery times said, the child followed the condition of the mother. If the mother was free, her baby was free; if the mother was a slave, then so was her baby. This was very convenient for masters in places such as Virginia, when the US government stopped the slave trade, they just fathered their own slaves. All those babies who resulted from rape had to be black. And the idea stuck.

    Nothing leftist about it; it’s US history.

    Now as for Toni Morrison calling Bill Clinton “the first black president” ( and, by the way, many Blacks beg to differ), she only meant Clinton governed in favor of Black people. So if Obama, who is Black, governs in the same way, I guess he’ll follow in Clinton’s footsteps, though I doubt many Blacks will explain it that way.

    You aren’t confused. You just don’t believe that part of history that makes white folk look bad (because they did bad things). Racism, alive and well today, resulted in slavery, Jim Crow, and now systemic racism so subtle people deny it. Racism is America’s original sin.

  4. Ymarsakar says

    Now as for Toni Morrison calling Bill Clinton “the first black president” ( and, by the way, many Blacks beg to differ), she only meant Clinton governed in favor of Black people.

    So a white person has to be called “black” in order to validate their governing “in favor of Black people”? A very interesting use of linguistics to change the way people think by forcing concepts through a certain narrative filter.

  5. Charles Martel says

    Helen:

    Thank you for demonstrating yet again how literal leftists are and how lost irony is on them.

    Anyway, it seems to me that a fearless white warriorette like you would see the nonsense in her following assertion:

    “It isn’t that it’s impossible for a black woman to have white baby, it’s that the rule in slavery times said, the child followed the condition of the mother. If the mother was free, her baby was free; if the mother was a slave, then so was her baby. This was very convenient for masters in places such as Virginia, when the US government stopped the slave trade, they just fathered their own slaves. All those babies who resulted from rape had to be black. And the idea stuck.”

    Two thoughts occur here:

    1. If it’s not impossible for a black woman to have a white baby in 21st-century (not 19th-century) America, please give me an example. In fact, give me an example from your own life. Otherwise I’ll just assume that you follow along with that racist crap like all other leftists: if a baby’s part black it’s all black.

    2. I was under the impression that Obama’s mom was white and had not been raped. Silly me.

    “You aren’t confused. You just don’t believe that part of history that makes white folk look bad (because they did bad things). Racism, alive and well today, resulted in slavery, Jim Crow, and now systemic racism so subtle people deny it. Racism is America’s original sin.”

    The welter of ignorance and presumption in the above statement made me spew on my screen when I read it!

    1. You are in no position to judge what I believe or don’t. I’m not the one here asserting that Obama is a black man — you are. Also, I am half Hispanic, which, my pasty princess, gives me ever so much more moral cred than you. As they say in Georgia, don’t get in a pissing contest with a (half-white) skunk. I’ll win.

    2. Please give me an example of “systemic racism” more subtle than your own. Whites like you who are so eager to denigrate other whites and spot racism under every rock have some deep-seated prejudices about blacks. It might be productive for you to examine you own great ambivalence about blacks rather than project it onto me.

    Yikes, I just did the same thing to you that you did to me — project!

    I’d aologize, but I’m a member of a protected ethnic group. You dare not argue with me, you, you, you WHITE woman!

    PS: Happy Thanksgiving.

  6. Deana says

    Hi Charles –

    Happy Thanksgiving!!

    Helen will tell you that “systemic racism” is due to white America’s social perception, even when you point out to her that many people who originated from the Caribbean, Brazil, Ethiopia, Nigeria, other parts of Africa, etc., came to America and managed to become quite successful in the space of one or two generations apparently in spite of the fact that they look exactly like many black Americans whose families have been here for centuries.

    It doesn’t matter that there is no difference in appearance between the groups. We Americans are so mean, so greedy, so . . . sinful, that we manage to figure out which blacks in America are the descendants of slaves and which are not and then only discriminate against those whose ancestors were slaves 140 years ago.

    As you know, in the minds of many, black Americans are a protected class. They are like teflon – nothing sticks to them. They cannot be blamed for anything, they are not guilty of anything, and nothing they think, say, or do can be criticized.

    You’re Hispanic? A “minority?” Sorry. You still aren’t legit. Nothing you say or think is relevant. Being a descendant of slaves, or being their white protector, trumps all.

    Deana

  7. Mike Devx says

    >> You aren’t confused. You just don’t believe that part of history that makes white folk look bad (because they did bad things). Racism, alive and well today, resulted in slavery, Jim Crow, and now systemic racism so subtle people deny it. Racism is America’s original sin. >>

    And on it goes.

    Never mind the fact that the Great Slave Trail across Africa was maintained and operated and benefitted Muslims, and that they owned black slaves as well. Never mind the fact that systemic racism – America’s own, unique Original Sin – exists just as severely in Islamic countries. “America, America, the home of Systemic Racism! Uniquely evil forever and ever, Amen!” Oh the joy.

    >> This was very convenient for masters in places such as Virginia, when the US government stopped the slave trade, they just fathered their own slaves. All those babies who resulted from rape had to be black. And the idea stuck. >>

    Actually, the idea is much simpler than that. Racism demanded that one drop of blood of “inferior stock” made you inferior, period.

    I wonder if my hatred of nearly all rap music makes me a racist to others… Of course, I know it doesn’t. My hatred of unearned fame seems to focus on Paris Hilton, but that doesn’t make me a misogynist either – it just means I see her as the most egregious example of that disgusting cultural phenomenon that I have seen, so far, out there.

  8. Charles Martel says

    Deana:

    I know that my half-Hispanic ancestry means diddly. But in Helen’s loopy world, where skin color is everything, I figured I could have some fun with her massive white guilt.

    She herself said that the only reason anyone needed to vote for Obama was that he was (half) black. His frickin’ SKIN color!

    The notion is so ludicrously racist, yet offered up with the attitude that anybody who asks about the stench surrounding it is the one who is racist.

  9. Oldflyer says

    Charles, Helen came through. It is nice to know there are still a few constants in life.

    I am getting a little worried about Bookworm, however. She seems to be treading dangerously close to the line. Living in Marin County, she needs to be circumspect. The diversity police have ways of finding you.

    I have decided to declare myself a Native-American since I was born in Tampa, Fl. As a native Floridian I believe I am also a minority. I wonder if I can benefit from that?

    I know those English speaking family members who are still in Florida will soon be in the minority. However, I doubt that they will be “privileged” minorities.

    Personally, I can’t wait for ‘reparations’ to go into effect. Once that precedent has been set I think I will sue the hell out of the Federal government because their General Sherman burned my ancestoral home in Georgia–forcing my folks to move to the swamps of Florida. I know a lot of people here in Virginia will join me in seeking recompense for the “War of Northern Aggression”, known by some unenlightened souls as the “Civil War”.

    Of course as the saying goes, it really does matter whose ox is being gored.

  10. Charles Martel says

    Oldflyer:

    Bookworm’s Marin allies are thinking of setting up a safe house where she can retreat if she (or any of us) is ever outed.

    Being the sicko greedhead warmongering racist homophobes that we are, we’ve selected a place that no liberal will ever look to find us in: The storeroom of the S&M leather bar behind the Unitarian Church’s Peace and Justice Center.

  11. Ymarsakar says

    I believe Helen sees racism as a problem only a vis a vis the inequality factor. Helen doesn’t pay much attention to sexual slavery in Arabia, for example, because the slaves aren’t black and Helen equates inequality to being black rather than inequality to being slaves. Helen will say in her defense that she prefers to fix America’s problems first, before tackling any other issues, but is that really what a liberator of slaves would be thinking of?

    It’s one thing to be in a nation before the Civil War trying to resolve the problems of black slavery vis a vis state and Constitutional matters, it is quite another thing to be in 21st century America with the power to help many others.

    Your choices are both a product of the person you are and the amount of power available for you and your nation to use.

    Racism, alive and well today, resulted in slavery, Jim Crow, and now systemic racism so subtle people deny it. Racism is America’s original sin.

    Racism may be Helen’s religion more than Christianity, but Helen only ever sees racism in terms of economic equality for blacks. That’s not racism, that’s just simple inequality. Like the inequality that says women are inferior to men in Arabia and Eastern European nations.

    Now if you are someone like me, then racism will get the higher priority since simple inequality can be fixed but racism is forever. The ideology itself says that once black you will always be black: take Helen’s example of children of slaves. Racism is more pernicious than simple economic or political inequality because economic and political inequality is far harder to perpetuate itself than racism is. Racism, however, leads inevitably to economic and political inequality, thus by fighting racism, judging people by intrinsic and inborn qualities like intelligence, permanent social classes or castes, or skin color, is also doing the most you can to eradicate inequality in the future.

    But Helen is not interested in such things. Helen is interested in race and how to manipulate different races, whether blacks or whites. That, in itself, is no solution to racism and most of the problem in the bargain.

    Nothing leftist about it; it’s US history.

    A person that concerns him or herself with only US history and US internal problems is called an isolationist. A person that concerns himself with the cause of liberty, whether it can be found here in America or elsewhere, is called a classical liberal.

    You are no classical liberal, Helen.

  12. Ymarsakar says

    Actually, the idea is much simpler than that. Racism demanded that one drop of blood of “inferior stock” made you inferior, period.

    Well, you agree with Helen then, except you don’t use the same words. To Helen, what you said is “inequality”, not racism.

    Racism is where blacks are disenfranchised and kept down by the “White Man” (and those with Helen’s beliefs). Inequality is where one drop of black blood makes all blacks inferior and thus keeps them that way through systemic racism.

    You see racism and inequality, mike, as, however, inverted. Helen has no problems fighting racism by recognizing and validating that one drop of black blood makes blacks inferior, because Helen’s racism is your inequality, Mike, and your inequality is Helen’s Crusade against Racism (America’s Original Sin).

  13. Mike Devx says

    Ymar (#14)
    My comment on the “one drop of blood” idea was merely my comment on the virulent form of American racism that *used* to exist in this country, and is likely to exist elsewhere as well. I certainly think such viewpoints today are held only by a very small minority of people, who remain true racists.

    I don’t see systemic racism as being very serious today, either. Certainly Helen views cultural negativity (such as mine) as racist. The inability to separate cultural negativity and skin-color racism is a severe fault of most liberals, to me. In fact, I view cultural judgments to be among the most important judgments that we can ever make, while I abhor and detest racism.

    I view urban black culture as having many deep dysfunction and extraordinarily harmful elements. Regardless of any racism-based causes, that’s something the urban black community is going to have to take care. Certainly, these extraordinarily harmful cultural dysfunctions have zero racism based CAUSES today.

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