The Muslim world’s view of Obama

I don’t believe Obama is a believing Muslim, just the way I don’t believe he is a believing Christian.  I think he has two religions:  Socialism and self-worship.  Nevertheless, I do think that many in the Muslim world are pretty darn certain that, when Obama lived as a child in Indonesia, he was a practicing Muslim.  And once a practicing Muslim, always a Muslim.

As you may recall, Islam treats apostates with a certain bracing vigor:  they kill you.  It won’t bring you back into the fold, but it will discourage others from leaving the faith.  Obama understands this fact and that, I suspect, is why he hasn’t found a church yet Washington, despite more than a year to shop around and a plethora of choices.  Aside from the fact that his prior church experiences were for political expediency, meaning that he has no yen to sit in the pews on Sunday and hear the word of God, he’s concerned that some trigger happy member of the Islamic faith might get upset to see an apostate flaunt his apostasy.

This is all by way of introducing an email I got the other day, which focuses on Michelle Obama’s absence from Obama’s trip to the Muslim world.  It might be mere coincidence.  It might be Michelle’s silent protest against a religion that cruelly oppresses women.  Or it might be, as this email suggests, yet another indication that, while Obama is not religious, both he and the Muslim world recognize his unbreakable tie to that faith:

If you check Obama’s last trip over seas. His wife left just after their visit to France. She has yet to accompany him to any Arab country. Think about it. The pieces of the puzzle just keep on coming together! Interesting…


At a Blockbusters, there was a video called “Obama”. There were two men there who talked about Obama. These guys were Arabs and were asked why they thought Michelle Obama headed home following her visit in France instead of traveling on to Saudi Arabia and Turkey with her husband. They said she couldn’t go to Saudi Arabia, Turkey or Iraq. When asked how come Laura Bush went to Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Dubai, they said that Obama is a Muslim and by Muslim law he would not be allowed to bring his wife into countries that accept Sharia Law. It is interesting that two Arabs at Blockbusters accept the idea that the U.S. is being led by a Muslim who follows the Islamic creed. (They also said that the reason he bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia was a signal to the Muslim world.)


A Middle Eastern Scholar and expert, Dr. Jim Murk provided this explanation:

“An orthodox Muslim man would never take his wife on a politically oriented trip to any nation which practices shari’ah law, which includes Saudi Arabia. This is true and it is why Obama left Michelle in Europe or at home when he went to Arab countries. He knows Muslim protocol; this included his bowing to the Saudi king. Obama is regarded as a Muslim in these countries simply because he was born to a Muslim father. Note that he has downplayed his Christianity–even spoke of his Muslim faith with George Stephanopoulus –by not publicly joining a Christian church in D.C., but simply attending the chapel or services at Camp David. He also played down the fact that the USA was a Christian country and said, unbelievably, that it was one of the largest Muslim nations in the world, which is nonsense. He has also publicly taken the part of the Palestinians in the conflict with Israel Finally he ignored the National Day of Prayer. He is bad news! He is God’s judgment on America ..”

As I said, I don’t believe Obama to be a man of any religious faith. But I do think there’s something going on. By the way, this something will never be proven. We can’t see inside the man’s heart and mind. But we are certainly free to speculate about his actions.

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  • Zhombre

    NOTE: this time I read every word, Book.
    I concur.  I don’t believe Obama has any belief except in himself and — not in socialism — but the leftist pap that is socialism in all but name and has been the intellectual currency among academics and elites the last fifty years.  Obama is shallow. He’s a mimic.  A very good one, a very clever one, but a mimic nonetheless.  He was an egoist who played the part of a community organizer, then played the part of an intellectual, then a Chicago politician,  then a US Senator (very briefly since most of his Senate tenure was spent running for President), now US President.  Our Poseur-in-Chief.  After one dismal term he will mimic the role of a meddling, pretentious, self-justifying ex President, which will afford him the role he was born to: appraising his own value.  As for his relationship with the Muslim world, that’s another empty gesture.


    But I do think there’s something going on
    I’d change the tense to … Something went on.
    A candidate with little to no experience, no traceable friends from childhood, a trip to Pakistan with  a friend, who til this day remains silent, odd (disgusting) choices in affiliations, two books published that were all about him, which I guess was a back up resume and finally placed in front of a microphone at the 2004 DNC to deliver the keynote speech.
    So many questions never asked and still more questions never answered. I have a few. Let’s start with the basics, Who vetted him as a candidate – State Dept. FBI, CIA, Congress, Senate?  Who or what gave him cover and camouflage and why?


    Where is Jenny Frost?
    NEW YORK – The publisher of President Barack Obama’s book “The Audacity of Hope” has stepped down.
    Jenny Frost, who as head of the Crown Publishing Group oversaw the release of the million-selling 2006 book, left Wednesday, effective immediately. “Leaving was not my decision,” she told The Associated Press in an email message.
    Crown’s parent company, Random House Inc., announced Frost’s departure and said it was a result of a “reorganization” of Crown, which is being split into “separately structured and distinct groups.”
    Random House spokesman Stuart Applebaum said that no staff reductions were planned and declined to make additional comment about Frost’s leaving.
    Frost, 53, had worked at Random House since the 1980s and served as president and publisher of Crown for the past seven years. She came out well from a major restructuring in 2008 when Random House consolidated its five major divisions into three, a move that added several imprints to Crown, and laid off an undetermined number of employees.
    In her email message, Frost said she had had an “amazing and wonderful 25 years with Random House” and now had “an opportunity to take some time to think about what I want to do next, and that, too, can be a tremendous gift.”
    Bestsellers released during her reign included Ann Coulter’s “Treason,” Erik Larson’s “The Devil in the White City,” Obama’s “Hope” and the million-selling re-issue of an earlier book by Obama, “Dreams From My Father.” Next year, Crown will publish a memoir by former President George W. Bush.


    Random House of Bennett Cerf days are long gone and the current owner/s are:
    The Bertelsmann Foundation (German: Bertelsmann Stiftung) is the largest[1] private operating non-profit foundation in Germany, created in 1977 by Reinhard Mohn of the Bertelsmann and Mohn families (the Bertelsmann family being the founders of the Bertelsmann publishing conglomerate).
    Its main aims are to promote reforms and democracy, especially in government, social and economic contexts. It is not a funding organisation (i.e., it does not provide grants, scholarships or project funding to others) but focuses on researching, publishing and stimulating public debate on its topics. It does this in a purely “operative” manner, i.e. only projects initiated by the foundation itself are funded. It is active worldwide and has since inception spent around €605 million on nonprofit projects. The total budget for the 2005 fiscal year has amounted to €56.7 million, according to the foundation.[2]The foundation funds itself by its 76.9% in the Bertelsmann company.[3]

  • suek

    >>…that Obama is a Muslim and by Muslim law he would not be allowed to bring his wife into countries that accept Sharia Law.>>
    Why not?  Not allowed by whom?  What is the problem under Sharia law with his wife accompanying him ?

  • Charles Martel

    “What is the problem under Sharia law with his wife accompanying him?”

    Please remember that after Obama took office U.S. fashion magazines quickly discovered Michelle’s raving beauty.

    Also remember that Muslim men are driven to heights of unbridled and uncontrollable lust in the mere presence of a female, let alone at the sight of her ankle or bare arm.

    So, gorgeous Michelle Obama, upon landing at Riyadh International, unintentionally exposes her power biceps, thus inciting lust among Allah’s faithful servants. King Saud makes a clumsy pass at her. Barry, uncertain whether to take the monarch’s ass pat on Michelle as an insult or a compliment, simultaneously bows to Saud, then hits the king’s chin with his head as he straightens up from the curtsy, decking him and knocking him out cold.

    Mayhem and melee ensue as Arab and U.S. secret servicemen start firing furiously at one another. Michelle intervenes, flailing her massive nekkid Elle-approved upper arms as she beats on her American would-be protectors. The sensual motion of her limbs’ formidable dewlaps incites the Muslim strongmen to involuntarily gush streams of lust-induced saliva, thereby slickening the floor and putting a stop to the madness as all fall down.

    Headline in next day’s Jerusalem Post: “Biceps of Fury Cause Muslim Sex Riot”

    And that’s why Barack didn’t take Michelle to Saudi Arabia.  

  • suek

    Somehow I don’t think that’s an exactly accurate  account…
    But I love it!!


    Just knocked over one coffee, two pens, desk calendar and other assorted items laughing.
    Charles, you are a piece of work. Thanks for the giggles galore.

  • Mike Devx

    Our President cannot bring his wife into a Muslim country.  Because the leaders, and people, in that country believe our President is a Muslim.
    Yet anyone HERE who believes he is a Muslim is treated as if they were crackpots.
    Hasn’t Obama publicly stated that he is a Christian?  I think so.  Then, what… do the leaders and people in Muslim countries believe Obama is merely playing the lying game to us infidels, taqqiya?


    I don’t know the religious rules. If you are raised a muslim and then declare that you are a Christian, don’t you have to be baptized or something first. If yes, was he baptized and if he was baptized, does it count if Rev. Wright did it? Does one receive some certification of the ritual?

  • Gringo

    My two link posting is getting eaten, so I will try with only one link.Sadie, this 40 minutes video talks about NObama’s student days at Occidental. Apparently he was a true believer back then- in Marx, not in Muhammed. Listen to it while you do chores.

    John Drew met NObama when he was a grad student at Cornell, and NObama was at Occidental. Drew’s video

  • Charles Martel

    It’s interesting to note that the Rev. Wright is a convert from Islam. Strange that no badass Muslim imam has yet to call for his death for apostasy.

    Could it be that Wright “converted” as an exercise in taquiyah, the Allah-sanctioned lie, the better to reach dimwits like Obama?


    Thanks for the link, Gringo. Let’s see if I got this right…
    The one-time muslim, part time/full time Marxist BMOC, 20-year Christian of questionable roots [see Charles #12] leaves Occidental after his Pakistani doyen graduates and takes the money  with him, sulks off and does his time at Columbia and then ups the ante in Chicago and is rewarded with an even bigger house eventually in D.C. where he gets to invite all of his questionable friends and associates and give them government jobs.
    President Chameleon (because I have yet to hear about the Columbia years) intent on leaping tall buildings in a single bound (senator to president in record time) faster than a speeding bullet (pushing his agenda) more powerful than a locomotive (until the Tea Party) jumped the track and all we need now is to keep flinging ‘cryptonite’ at him until 2012.

  • Mike Devx

    Yes, folks, Gringo’s link in #11 is well worth the time!
    I listened to it about a week ago, and found it quite good.  There’s no huge smoking gun, but you’ll understand our dear Chosen One President much better after you hear what his fellow Marxist traveller has to say about him.
    It all has the ring of truth to it.  Then you’ll ponder the question: How much has Obama moderated his views since those wildly radical years at Occidental?  The uncomfortable truth is that we don’t know for sure, but there is evidence available for you to draw a conclusion.  My conclusion: Obama has not moderated his views at all.  Not one ounce.  Since those days, he has continued to carefully associate himself, on his closest terms, only with more and more of the same far-left radicals as he did back then.  He’s just become far better at concealment and diversion and duplicity, like any very good pure politician.
    You’ll be glad you took the time to listen to the link, if you do.

  • Spartacus

    I want to tell all of you about how I had all of this figured out months ago.
    Unfortunately, that would be a complete lie — I don’t recall even being aware of whether Michelle went along or not.
    But in retrospect, it makes perfect sense.  Regardless of any specific requirements of Sharia, there are some real cultural protocol hurdles.  “Michelle, honey, do you mind wearing a black burqa in 105 degree heat, and walking five paces behind me?”  That might play OK for the Saudis, but how about the checkout-line mags back in the States, who like to portray Michelle as a brilliant, modern, empowered woman?  So ditch the burqa, walk like an equal partner, and hope to avoid being stoned to death for acting like an infidel in the holy land?  Bad choices all around.  Muslim sex riot remains the most plausible explanation, of course, but even if they skirt that one, it doesn’t get any better.
    Barack must see himself as Michael Corleone, simultaneously “on” everyone else’s side, and simultaneously playing them all for fools.  Being everything to everyone has been his strategy on a number of different issues, so there’s no reason why he would treat the issue of his own personal religious beliefs any differently.
    All that said, why he bowed to the (female) mayor of Tampa remains a bit of a mystery.  Maybe he’d just been in a deep and intense discussion with his foreign policy advisors, and was still in a New Arabia State of Mind.  Or maybe the teleprompter hadn’t been set up there on the tarmac, to tell him *not* to bow.  Who knows… he’s an intensely strange cat.

  • Charles Martel

    “Who knows… he’s an intensely strange cat.”

    Nicely said.

  • Danny Lemieux

    Charles: “Barry, uncertain whether to take the monarch’s ass pat on Michelle as an insult or a compliment, simultaneously bows to Saud, then hits the king’s chin with his head as he straightens up from the curtsy, decking him and knocking him out cold.”
    Charles, you actually had me thoughtfully rubbing my chin as I read you very serious prognostication, until I reached this point. I just cannot imagine President  Obama doing this. Apologizing to the Saudi king and the world  for his wife’s lewd exhibitionism would be more like it.
    Also, re. “… he’s an intensely strange cat”.

    Isn’t that redundant?

  • Spartacus

    Somebody’s obviously not a cat lover, here.  =)  But I only meant to comment on the strangeness of one individual, not to insult an entire species.  Cats do seem like, ever since domestication, they’ve not really figured out what to do with themselves, a lack of purpose not seen in dogs.  But they’re not to be blamed for that.  Barack, on the other hand, has a couple extra digits in his IQ score, has orbited the sun dozens more times than any living felis domesticus, and should know better.  But instead of being doglike, he is what he is, trying to find himself, even writing (or causing to be written) a couple of books on his favorite subject in the process.
    By contrast, Dubya is a dog.  Loyal almost to a fault, understanding and practicing love instinctively and without reservation, and always fiercely protective of the family.  Sometimes not the brightest dog, as when strangers walk uninvited into the family home through the open front door, and he just goes up and starts licking them [face in hands, groan], but never to be faulted for a fundamental lack of dogness.


    He says, She says …
    Sen. Orrin Hatch has a message for the Tea Party movement: Work with the GOP or see conservatives lose more ground.
    “I think you guys are as out of touch as you can get,” said Sarah Beeson.
    They said [guess who’s name is on the list]

  • Ymarsakar

    Cats are centered around solitary predation social styles whereas dogs belong to the pack hierarchy.

  • suek

    I agree with Hatch in that the Tea Party movement _could_ tear the GOP apart and leave the Dems in charge.  There are two aspects to the question – one is whether we’re better off with a person who votes 60% conservative  and  who identifies as a GOP member, or a Democrat who votes the party line 98% of the time.  The second is that whether it’s self defeating to keep supporting the Progressive-lights  in the GOP, knowing that if they are successful as Progressive-lights, there’s not much incentive for them to be anything else.  Who wants to take on a real fight in Congress or for election, if you can go along to get along.
    I’d prefer to see the Tea Partyers start evaluating the backgrounds of candidates in the various States in order to elect the more conservative candidates, whether Dem or GOP.  Although…I gotta say…the Dems sure must have a big whip to crack.  Their members don’t stray much.  You might elect a truly conservative Dem, but once they get into Congress, they sure don’t seem to stay that way for long.


    Somewhere on another thread, I acknowledged that the Tea Party should serve as a clearing house to wean out those who do not stick to the principals.  What I found contradictory, was Hatch was playing both sides in his observations. I mean, how do you vote in favor of Eric Holder and still believe or cling to the idea that you are a conservative.

  • Mike Devx

    Sadie #22
    > I mean, how do you vote in favor of Eric Holder and still believe or cling to the idea that you are a conservative.

    Right or wrong, I think conservatives tend to honor the concept that the winner of the election, nominating someone within the Executive Branch, should receive the due respect that winning the election provides.  That means that the candidate should be found to have engaged in lawful behavior, and have a record that fits somewhere within normal conventions.  I personally detest Eric Holder as I do Obama – and let me say I detest Jimmy Carter, still, even more than both of them, but primarily because he built such an odious record over four years in office.  But it may be that Eric Holder’s record is such that Obama should be allowed such a nomination to succeed.   And besides – look at the result.  We’ve already gotten, in less than a year and a half – such a ringingly clear vision of what Obama and his Administration stand for.  You give them the rope and let them hoist themselves on their own petard, so to speak.

    Having said that, were I Orrin Hatch, I would have abstained from that vote.  I could not vote FOR Eric Holder, even if I found him to fit somewhere within “acceptable” jurisprudence.  Let the Democrats be the only ones who voted Aye for a person with views and policies so harmful to the American people.

    (Similarly, there’s that Obama-led forum on health care coming up that the GOP has decided to attend.  Are they crazy???  They’d better know what they’re doing.  Given that the Democrats appear ready to use reconciliation to force their own version of health care on all of us, with no GOP nor conservative input at all, these guys appear nuts to me.  What a setup.  But perhaps, as Democrats continue a slow free-fall heading towards the 2010 elections, maybe the GOP leadership knows what they’re doing after all.  I personally completely lack confidence in that, but we’ll see.)

  • Ymarsakar

    “I mean, how do you vote in favor of Eric Holder and still believe or cling to the idea that you are a conservative.”
    Corrupt, hypocritical, robber baron cloned plutocrats of the oligarchical tradition.

  • suek

    >>I think conservatives tend to honor the concept that the winner of the election, nominating someone within the Executive Branch, should receive the due respect that winning the election provides.>>
    I understand this…but really – given that we _do_ have a war on terror – shouldn’t his involvement with the defense of the GTMO prisoners have _some_ bearing on his suitability to be AG??
    And I agree – withholding your vote would have been an option, given the conflict of principles.  (“I understand the Administration is entitled to its candidates, but I cannot support a vote for this individual”).  And I _do_ think that such a statement should be made in such a case.

  • ckrcsmith

    Book, when I try to forward one of your posts, I keep getting an error message, something about “Cannot connect to SMTP host”. This has been going on for a while. Is anyone else having this problem?
    BTW, love your blog.

  • Bookworm

    Thanks for the kind words, ckrcsmith.  I don’t know the answer to your question, but I’ve forwarded it to my web master.