The top ten awkward facts about the new atheist monument

I have no problem with atheism, having been an atheist for large chunks of my life.  I do, however, have a problem with atheists’ concerted attacks on religion, which I think bespeaks precisely the type of intolerance atheists swear they oppose.  That’s why I found so amusing Catholic Vote’s list of “top ten awkward facts about the new atheist monument.”  I can just imagine some hyper-politicized atheist coming across the list and crying out in anguish, “Stop confusing me with the facts.”

Hat tip:  A friend who prefers to remain nameless

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  • Gringo

    From the link:
    3. A quote on the monument says atheists “Want war eliminated.” Which is awkward because warriors like Stalin and Lenin and Mao and Hoxha and Ceaușescu – were all atheists.
     
    Like Book, I was once an atheist. I am now an agnostic, as I see that the existence or nonexistence of a Supreme Being can neither be proven nor disproven. The believer says- I believe.  So be it. Many atheists say- I know. Well, you don’t really know.
     
    I once got into an online discussion with someone who claimed to have university faculty credentials [nor do I doubt them]- who was condemning all the people killed “in the name of Christianity.” I pointed out that atheists had killed ~ 100 million in the last century- an estimate from the Black Book of Communism. The reply was that it wasn’t comparable, as Communists weren’t killing in the name of atheism.  They were simply atheists who killed “in the name of Communism.” Yeah, right. Whereas, all Christians from the beginning of Christianity, who participated in wars, were killing in the name of Christianity. I pointed out to him that in the USSR, religion was actively persecuted. Churches were destroyed. Priests and ministers were killed. So, it COULD be said that Communists DID kill “in the name of atheism.”

  • pst314

    A monument to atheism? A Gahan Wilson cartoon seems appropriate: “Is Nothing sacred?
     
     

  • Danny Lemieux

    Er, let’s not forget Hitler. Hitler was an atheist. And, those atheists did kill mass-millions in the name of their atheist ideologies (Naziism, Communism, etc.), or as Gringo so aptly points out, their atheistic “faiths”.
     

  • SJBill

    These intellectual superiors might have come up with a design with more than a passing resemblance to a toilet or bidet.

  • Ron19

    “There are now more than four hundred Catholic hospitals in the United States which care for about half a million patients annually.”  This is from New Advent, an online Catholic encyclopedia, the information is from 1910 or thereabouts. 
    http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07480a.htm
     
    There are many other Christian sects that own or operate hospitals and medical schools, plus numerous hospices, and nursing homes, retirement homes, clinics, etc. 
     
    Hospitals and other medical service providers that are not specifically labelled Christian (or Muslim, etc.) are mostly secular, meaning no specific religious affiliation, not specifically atheistic.  In other places, hospitals exist not because they are atheistic but because that is what communities do.

  • Charles Martel

    I compare some atheists’ desire to have their own religious-like monuments to those gays who detest heterosexuality but want all the bourgeois trappings of marriage. Obviously there’s a sort of envy going on. It reminds me of when the Soviets would capture an American bomber and imitate it down to the placement of all the bolts and even the little design flaws that had crept into the original specs. 
     
    The sincerest form of flattery. 

  • beefrank

    The atheists should be very thankful to the God and Father of the Lord Jesus Christ that they live in a nation whose foundational tenets are rooted in the Bible.  It is the Bible, whose subject is the Christ Jesus from Genesis to Revelations, that sets the principles established in the U.S. Constitution and permeates the Declaration of Independence, founding documents, our laws, statues, regulations and generally-accepted decorum, i.e., common sense.  There was no other nation where non-Christians and atheists have the freedom (some may argue it is too much) to expound and practice their beliefs.  This nation was founded and based on a specific religion but other faiths have the freedom and right to practice as well.  BTW, atheism is a faith as noted on their monument.   I recently heard author and historian, David Barton summarize the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution as such.
    1) There is a God.
    2) God gave us inalienable rights
    3) Government is to protect those rights God gave.
    4) There is a moral law.
    5) Below the moral law, people get to govern to implement those laws.
    6) If government will not perform steps 1-5, the people have the right to replace that government.

  • Charles Martel

    Danny, I’m waiting for somebody to point out that Hitler was baptized Catholic. That opens the way to the ludicrous assertion that being baptized automatically makes you a believer, therefore Hitler was carrying out some secret Catholic plan for out-doing the Jooos and taking over Die Welt.
     
    I believe Stalin was baptized into the Russian Orthodox church. I know Fidel’s a baptized Catholic. As you can plainly see, the Christianists are the real power behind atheist mass murderers.
     
    Pol Pot is a different matter. Not sure how to peg him. He probably was raised a Buddhist, and everybody knows (with the regrettable exception of those Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese, and Cambodian mass-murder sprees) how peaceful that religion is.
     
     

  • beefrank

    Christ said it best regarding ‘false prophets’ in Matthew 7:15-23 which is summarized in commonly known phrase in verse 20 ‘Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them’.  This observation can be adapted to many other situations regarding people with their ‘credentials’, ‘words’, ‘status’, ‘standing’, ‘expertise’, ‘pedigree’, ‘intentions’, ‘feelings’ or ‘image’.

    Matthew 7:15-23 (KJV)

    15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
    16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
    17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
    18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
    19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
    20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
    21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
    22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
    23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

  • Danny Lemieux

    Aw heck, Hammer. You are onto something.
    For example, Stalin wasn’t only baptized a Christian but was also a seminarian.
    And let me make it easy for you regarding Pol Pot. He studied at the Sorbonne. In France. A Catholic country. And we can’t forget Genghis Khan. His Wiki bio mentions that he sought the wisdom of Christian missionaries. And, he was on his way to France. For the Food. A Catholic Country.
    Then, we have Vlad the Impaler. He was obviously a practicing Christian because all those he impaled were Muslims. 

  • Charles Martel

    Danny, in an alternate universe my my Frankish stalwarts and I met Genghis at the German border and fed him and his hordes contaminated mayonnaise. You don’t know easy it was to fool those rubes into thinking they were feasting on a French delicacy!
     
    Alas, we waited, and waited, and waited for them to drop dead, watching in growing dismay as they continually pestered us for “More, please.” We realized too late that rotten mayonnaise was much like their prized fermented mare’s milk—a treat!
     
    This explains why in the alternate universe I was forced to take a ferry to England, ask for asylum, and change my name to Chumley Martin.

  • Michael Adams

    Was Dzhugashvili not baptized into the Georgian Orthodox Church? Not Catholic, nor Russian, either.

  • Danny Lemieux

    Eegads! I had you figured for the Black Adder, Hammer. 

  • Jose

    I don’t believe in Bigfoot, but I don’t feel a need to build a monument about it.

  • Charles Martel

    Jealousy makes people do funny things. It drives militant atheists nuts that knuckle-walking believers have great art, like the exquisite mosques of Central Asia and Michelangelo’s works.
     
    Even worse is the realization that the best they can come up with as a counter to great religious symbols like the cross and the Mogen David is a frickin’ 1950s atomic symbol, the kind of thing that starry-eyed nine-year-old dweebs used to draw in their notebooks. 

  • Danny Lemieux

    I think that you are being kind of harsh, Hammer. Consider, atheists have given us cubism, modern art and interpretive dancing. Then again…oh, never mind.