People are starting to figure out that Obamacare isn’t free health care; it’s wealth transfer health care *UPDATED*

The San Jose Mercury News did an article about the sticker shock many Obamacare supporters are experiencing.  What was great about this article was this quotation, from an ardent supporter:

Cindy Vinson and Tom Waschura are big believers in the Affordable Care Act. They vote independent and are proud to say they helped elect and re-elect President Barack Obama.

[snip]

Vinson, of San Jose, will pay $1,800 more a year for an individual policy, while Waschura, of Portola Valley, will cough up almost $10,000 more for insurance for his family of four.

[snip]

But people with no pre-existing conditions like Vinson, a 60-year-old retired teacher, and Waschura, a 52-year-old self-employed engineer, are making up the difference.

“I was laughing at Boehner — until the mail came today,”
Brochures and handouts on the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare, are shown at the education outreach booth sponsor by Daughters of Charity O’Connor Hospital at Santa Clara County Library Alum Rock branch in San Jose on Oct. 1, 2013. (Josie Lepe/Staff)
Waschura said, referring to House Speaker John Boehner, who is leading the Republican charge to defund Obamacare.

“I really don’t like the Republican tactics, but at least now I can understand why they are so pissed about this. When you take $10,000 out of my family’s pocket each year, that’s otherwise disposable income or retirement savings that will not be going into our local economy.”

It’s always great to see a few liberals mugged by reality. May there be many more in the coming days and years. Frankly, these people deserve to suffer. I’m sorry to say that, but it’s true. They worked hard to get this monstrosity passed into law, and I hope they suffer horribly because of it.  I’m sorry that you, my dear friends, will also have to suffer, because you tried to stop this train wreck.  But to the extent we knew it was a train wreck, let me reiterate my fondest desire that every elite liberal I knew is royally screwed.  And perhaps because you’re smarter about economic cause and effect, you will come out of this disaster stronger and better than they will.

Okay, I’m done being vindictive.  The same article also struck me because I suspect it contains a certain amount of dishonesty and misdirection.  I don’t have proof for my theory, just a strong suspicion.

First, read this:

Even those who don’t qualify for the tax subsidies could see their rates drop because Obamacare doesn’t allow insurers to charge people more if they have pre-existing conditions such as diabetes and cancer, he said.

People like Marilynn Gray-Raine.

The 64-year-old Danville artist, who survived breast cancer, has purchased health insurance for herself for decades. She watched her Anthem Blue Cross monthly premiums rise from $317 in 2005 to $1,298 in 2013. But she found out last week from the Covered California site that her payments will drop to about $795 a month.

Can you spot the problem? Before Obamacare passed, Gray-Raine was paying $317. Incidentally, I know that the article is careful to say that her premiums were $317 in 2005, but I’m willing to bet that the dramatic rate hikes started in 2009 when Obamacare passed. As the article concedes, without Obamacare’s market manipulation, rates tended to go up by about 4% annually.  I’m lousy at math, but it seems to me that a 4% annual increase on a $317 monthly premium would see her paying $434 per month by 2013.

Something happened in 2009, of course, to change that typical trajectory.  2009 is when insurance companies responded to the fact that Obamacare, instead of allowing them to sell true insurance based upon risk analysis, forced them to prepare for cost-shifting mode.  They knew that, come 2013, insurers will have to pay for everybody’s care (including maternity care for old men), regardless of risk factors. The moment the law was passed, and with increasing aggression as the law’s implementation loomed, insurers responded in the only logical way — by raising premiums. That’s almost certainly the explanation for Gray-Raine’s huge premium increase, one that saw her paying $981 more in 2013 than before Obamacare. Gray-Raine professes herself thankful that she’s going to be paying $795 less than she was paying last month, but she seems to have lost sight of the fact that she’s still paying almost $200 more per month than before the government meddled with the marketplace.

An ignorant populace is a dangerous populace.  That’s all I can say.

UPDATE:  Ace spotted an out and out lie in the article from an Obama shill:

A shill from Covered California pops in to claim that it’s always been said that there would be both winners and losers under ObamaCare.

Um, no. Nancy Pelosi guaranteed that everyone’s rate would go down. Obama promised a $2500 per year reduction in premiums. He campaigned on it.

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  • SADIE

    Do they grow a lot of cherries in San Jose – the article had a bushel of hand-picked ones.

  • http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com Ymarsakar

    Btw, Z over at insurrection is cooking up his usual propaganda storm and defending ObamaCare and his Regime.
     
    Just in case anyone comments regularly over there.

  • Texan99

    You left out my favorite part of the article!  The guys says, “I always wanted people to get free or cheaper health care, but I didn’t realize that I personally was going to be paying for it.”

  • MacG

    Has it come to pass that we have run out of other people’s money?
     
    Look who been wearing the Democrats mascot suit:

  • MacG

    The picture was stripped :(  But it was one of Robin Hood.

  • Charles Martel

    Sadie, great comment and interesting question. In 1950, San Jose had 96,000 people. It was the trading center for the best, most prolific fruit-producing acreage in America. Travelers worldwide used to wax poetic about the tens of thousands of acres of dazzling pink, orange, and red fruit tree blossoms that stretched for miles, like an endless flowery carpet, there every spring. 
     
    But urbanization caught San Jose flat-footed. By 1960, its population was 204,000. By 1970, 445,000. By 1980, 630,000. By 1990, 780,000. By 2000, 890,000, and by 2010, 945,000. Current estimates put it at more than 1 million.
     
    Yes, they still grow cherries in San Jose—in backyards and remnant orchards. And, yes, they are all hand-picked.

  • SADIE

    Charles, I wonder if the increase in population is Dionne Warwick’s fault. It was such a catchy tune. 
     
    San Jose caught flat-footed? Shocking. Isn’t California the land of Birkenstocks or to be more PC … non-documented Birkenstock-wearing attorneys. Pray tell, how does one state commit itself to a slow suicide of inane decisions and laws and remain intact. Not much of a view if you’re pushing up daisies.

  • http://furtheradventuresofindigored.blogspot.com/ Indigo Red

    When will people begin to figure out ObamaCare isn’t health care but health insurance.

  • SADIE

    Hell insurance. Health insurance is an option – it’s neither health care nor health insurance. It’s a tax.

  • http://www.amazon.com/Occupy-Innsmouth-ebook/dp/B009WWJ44A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1361504109&amp raymondjelli

    There is a solution! The Obama campaign had a profile of the low information voter it could target on Facebook, etc.
    We can use the profile of an Obama voter to target those who deserve to pay more under Obamacare. After all as consumers they created the demand.
    More importantly, stupid is a pre-existing condition.

  • http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com Ymarsakar

    “Frankly, these people deserve to suffer.”
     
    That’s a very very direct statement, given the source.
     
    I just hope you’ll be ready after you know some of the things they have done but people aren’t talking about now. Because at that point, you may not even be able to call them human any more, let alone people.
     
    Given that evil is bottomless and the Left is evil, we truly have not seen everything yet.

  • JKB

    More tails of reality bites.  This about an older person’s rates jacking up
     
    econlog.econlib.org…higher-cost_hea.html 
    They “matched” my previous high-deductible plan to the CA Bronze HSA plan allowed under Obamacare. Here are the highlights:
    • Deductible increasing from $4,000 to $4,500
    • Annual out-of-pocket maximum increasing from $5,600 to $6,350
    But here’s the really fun part. My monthly premium is going from $302 to $625.73.
     
    Tonight, I watched Kathleen Seblius on the Daily Show.  Stewart kind of pounded her.  But the big point was that prior to Obamacare it was all the insurance agents’ fault.  The kept people from doing proper plan comparisons.  The “exchanges” have fixed that  LOL

  • SADIE

    Back in 2008, I took a road trip to the Smokey Mountains. Aside from the scenic views and vistas, I was stunned by the number of Obama signs that dotted every hill, valley, village and hamlet along the way. A visitor from another planet would have thought that they were announcing the coming of the messiah and were hell bent to alert anyone with a pair of eyes to ready themselves. Well..well… they got half a messiah – a ‘mess’ and a 430% increase in premiums.
     
    Charlotte Observer:
     
    George Schwab of Charlotte, who pays $228 a month for his family’s $10,000 deductible plan from Blue Cross and Blue Shield of North Carolina.
    In a Sept. 23 letter, Blue Cross notified him that his current plan doesn’t meet benefit requirements outlined in the Affordable Care Act and suggested a comparable plan for $1,208 a month – $980 more than he now pays.

  • lee

    The Danville lady’s premiums would’ve gone up more than 4% each year, once she moved into the next higher demographic, but I am sure that the REALLY BIG jump did come as a result of the 2009 increases. The left always talks about health insurance as if the “pre-existing condition” business was STILL such a big issue–it was no longer an issue once COBRA was introduced, and one could be able to maintain CONTINUING COVERAGE. With continuing coverage, there really is no “preexisting condition.” One friend of mine who supports Abomicare big time, does so because she has a son who was born with a heart condition. I explained to her that as long as he was on his parents’ insurance, and maintained coverage once he was no longer elibible to be on theirs, it would not be a problem.
     
    I wasted way too much of my life in school. When I was younger, I was eligible for my parents’ health insurance plan. But I was essentially double insured, since the universities MADE EVERY student buy the Student Health Insurance–which in some cases (Ohio State in the 80’s) was EXCELLENT, and in some cases (Michigan in the 90’S) was REALLY BAD (Up to $5000 hospitilization.) But, it was insurance. (My auto insurance agent was going to cut back on the hospitialization in the event of a car accident, until I told him my insurance only covered up to $5000 hospitilization.) Some schools (like Ohio State) allowed you to purchase for a certain limited amount of time after you left the school. Once that was up, and I didn’t have a job with coverage, I bought through my alumni association. But professional associations also had plans you could buy into. (Especially professional associations that had a lof of sole propriaters as members.) Except for my tour as a grad student at U of M, I was always able to get pretty decent insurance as a reasonable cost. (Of course, I was a LOT younter.) But the major KEY was CONTINUING COVERAGE.
     
    The idiots in Washington knew NOTHING about health insurance when they “crafted” that abomiation. And apparently, even thought the Won had the best and brightest work in the comupter and internet world for his election, he got the dumbest idiots in the government to work on the “exchanges.” (Basing estimated traffic on the Medicare Part D enrollment traffic? How friggin’ STUPID can you be?!) Even someone who SUPPORTS Abomicare should rethink the launch, and go for postponing it one year, to get a least some ducks in a row.
     
    (As a conservative, I don’t think it will matter–only 19 Democrat seats are up for the 2014 Senate elections, and nine of those are in states where they would vote for a dead rat if it were on the Democratic ticket.) The Republicans MIGHT get a majority in the Senate in 2016, but to really repeal Abomicare, they need a supermajority, and it is not going to happen. Unfortunately.)
     
    But the self-absorbed, petty, bullying idiot in the Whitehouse would NEVER in a GAZILLION years, say, “You know, maybe the individual mandate should be postponed a year, with all this problems…” because then he would have “given in” to the EBIL REPUBLICANS.

  • http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com Ymarsakar

    Zombies and slaves aren’t allowed to think. To think thoughts that they weren’t told to think, would give them a whipping.
     
    The WH turns to overturn the House’s Republican color.

  • Danny Lemieux

    Oh, woe is cynical me. I don’t care about these people who once planted Obama signs on their front lawns and now wail bitterly about the consequences.
    Perhaps they should have stopped hating Republicans and conservatives long enough to listen to what we have been trying to tell them all these years, such as “there ain’t no free lunch”, “you could have learned to be grateful for the healthcare you have (glass half full) instead of always bi***in’ about how healthcare should be free” and “you made your bed, now you have to sleep in it”.
    Let them squirm a bit longer before extending them a helping hand up, which we must ultimately, as good people, do.

  • http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com Ymarsakar

    <B>Let them squirm a bit longer before extending them a helping hand up, which we must ultimately, as good people, do.</b>
     
    If only to save the country they are wrecking and blowing bombs up in.

  • Jose

    During a more than 1 hour press conference today, the president was not asked a single question about Obamacare.
     
    How nice for Obama to know he can count on the press corps, or rather press corpse, to roll over for him.

  • http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com Ymarsakar

    Necromancers like corpses. Good resource for goon/zombie material.

  • http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com Ymarsakar

    Obama thought the Marine Corps were powerful because of all the corpses in it. He said so himself. Remember?

  • Cheesestick

    “Of course, I want people to have health care,” Vinson said. “I just didn’t realize I would be the one who was going to pay for it personally.”
     
    This comment really burns me up.  These people thought they were so smart and the rest of us were too stupid to even listen to our arguments.  I hope her next epiphany is the fact that the very people, like me, that she thought she was helping by voting that “other” people pay for my health care, has left me w/ no insurance.  All her generosity got me was an annual fine I will be paying and now the opportunity to pay for all my healthcare out of pocket…if that’s even still an option once this all gets rolling.  

  • Texan99

    It’s the Soylent Green moment:  “Other people is US!”

  • Texan99

    Or, as Obama supporters might have put it once, “We are the suckers we’ve been waiting for!”