Quisling continues

Norway's government earned an ugly name for itself during WWII because of the conduct of one Vidkun Quisling. He was the leader of Norway's Nazi party and, after the Germans invaded Norway, he was the Government's first leader. For the remainder of the War, Norway had a collaborationist government. Unlike their leaders, most ordinary Norwegians acquitted themselves fairly well during the war.

Norway is again making decisions about dealing with murderous fascists, since its government just announced that it is planning on opening negotiations with Hamas. This would be the same Hamas that loudly cheered the murder of 9 people in Tel Aviv yesterday, and the brutal injuries inflicted on almost 70 others:

The Norwegian government says it is considering meeting representatives of Hamas during their visit to Oslo in May even though some countries have refused to recognize the new Palestinian government.

"The government believes in dialogue, including with groups whose actions we do not agree with," Norwegian Aid Minister Erik Solheim told public radio NRK.

Solheim did not specify at what level a meeting could be held, saying only that Norwegian high-ranking civil servants or members of parliament could take part.

The spokesman for Hamas' parliamentary group, Salah Bardawil, and Mohammed al-Rantissi are scheduled to visit Oslo on May 15 at the invitation of the Norwegian Palestine Committee, according to Norwegian news agency NTB.

Solheim said Tuesday: "Dialogue is the best way to stress that we cannot accept violence against civilian targets."

"The goal of a dialogue with Hamas must of course be to obtain a progressive change in Hamas' point of view when it comes to resorting to violence and recognizing the state of Israel," he said.

In post-Cold War politics, dialogue is everything; morals, values, and integrity are nothing. I have my doubts, by the way, that the ordinary people of Norway will replicate their WWII conduct and separate themselves from their government's newest Quisling act. Despite the damage Islamic immigrants inflict on ordinary Norwegians, Muslims can proudly announce that Norway as a whole sides resolutely with the fascists in the Middle East, and turns its back on the only Democratic government out there.

Interestingly, on the same day that Norway abandoned any semblance of decency, Japan announced that, while it will continue to honor prior commitments to the Palestinian people, it will not have any future dealings with Hamas. I'd prefer it, of course, if Japan would cut that entire rotten edifice off at the knees (since Hamas is controlling the Palestianians now and will benefit from all funds already promised), but it is still a step in the right direction, and shows Japan acting with a wisdom and integrity utterly absent from most of Europe. I don't know if this represents a Japanese cultural trait, the fact that Japan doesn't have any Islamists within its midsts (so it's not running so scared), or Japan's still close relationship with the US. Regardless of the reason, I'm grateful.

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  • http://ymarsakar.blogspot.com/ Ymarsakar

    Solheim said Tuesday: “Dialogue is the best way to stress that we cannot accept violence against civilian targets.”

    No, my dear fellow incompetents. Ruthlessness is the best way to stress that we will not accept violence against civilian targets.

    PM of Japan, is a very strong and wise leader.

    Wrote a post about koizumi a while ago.


  • jg

    It has been my understanding that Japan has been a quiet, dependable supporter of the war on terror. Their peculiar circumstances following the last world war preclude the Japanese from much military involvement. Whenever the raucous crowd of nations gathers to assault the war in the MSM, Japan’s absence from the mob is noteworthy. It is said that she understands the perils of terrorism only too well from her own internal incidents.

  • http://ymarsakar.blogspot.com/ Ymarsakar

    Japan’s culture is very analogous to America’s. Both Japan and America believe in the legend about a Founding Father. Japan reveres their ancestors and those who had gone before them, and they believe every Japanese owes a debt to their forefathers. (basis of Asian respect for parents)

    America does the same for the Founding Fathers and WWII.

    It makes perfect sense for two nations with a common culture and (language even) to have the same interests and alliances.

    For honor and duty are still virtues prized in Japan, while at the same time they are being destroyed in England and France.

  • http://poemsfromGod.blogspot.com Presbypoet

    Prior to World War II, the militarists in Japan seized power by assassinations of those who opposed their program of conquest. So terror is nothing new to Japan. The Ninja were assassins.

  • Andreas

    It’s sad to see such ignorance being portrayed as this blogger is guilty of. Technocrati seems to be completely ridden of historical knowledge and any honesty.

    Norway’s struggle against Nazi-Germany has been heralded by historians as one of the most profound during the war. We were the first nation to inflict a defeat on the Germans in a major combat (the Battle of Narvik). As the Nazi fleet sailed up to the Norwegian capital Oslo in 1940, Norway managed to torpedo the flagship and pride of the German navy, the Blucher. It was sunk in a matter of minutes, leaving over 1,000 sailormen and soldiers drowning. This defence by the Norwegian fortress Oscarsborg a few hours south of the capital left time for the Norwegian parliament and the King to flee the country and establishing its famous resistance movement in London a few months later. Vidkun Quisling, the Norwegian nazi, was put in place as a puppet regime by the Germans after Norway fell under occupation in the same year, 1940.

    Norway with it’s almost non-existant army fell back into guerilla tactics during the entire war and terrorized the Germans all over the nation.

    When the war ended the Norwegian government was restored (Norwegian Labour Party) and the Norwegian Royalty came back from exile… And Vidkun Quisling along with a few other traitors were SHOT.

    Norway supports the Palestinian government on the grounds of the principal of the right to resist occupation. The Norwegian government has been dead-on clear to the Palestinians that if they in any way do not approach the Israelis peacefully the funding to their state will be frozen again.

    Norway recognizes this right as France, England, Germany, Russia, etc. will most likely be doing shortly. Norway was also under occupation by Denmark and Sweden for over 500 years and are VERY much aware of the intense resistance people feel after being under occupation.

    It’s therefore sad, pitifull and outright pathetic how some people, like Technocrati, tries to rewrite his/hers history with such an ignorant knowledge of the past. Shame on you!

  • http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/ Bookworm

    Andreas: I’m in full Mom mode right now, so do not have time to address at length your post vis a vis Norway’s “principled” position right now regarding the Palestinian people. To the extent I believe it reflects a knee-jerk mentality that always grants the high ground to the underdog, without even bothering to check out the facts on the ground, I direct your attention to this post, which I did at American Thinker some time ago. It spells out clearly my belief that there’s nothing automatically virtuous about being the underdog.

  • http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com/ ymarsakar

    Throughout most of humanity’s thousand upon thousands of years of history, the one with more power and the upper hand has always been the slaver, the exploiter, and the evil empire. The traitorous belief that people hold in their hearts, now that the power of good has come on top of the power of evil for the first time in countless millenia, that the suddenly evil underdogs require “assistance” from virtuous Norway is… simply part of the stupidity of man and the endless tragedy that is the human condition.

    But it makes not the individual position of Andreas any better, does it. They want to reverse history, to perpetuate human suffering by “equalizing” things, when humanity has finally pulled itself out of the barrel of crabs and is on the verge of escaping the hell pit. You don’t need to put a lid on a container of crabs you know. Because they just won’t get out of there. If one crab starts to head up and outwards, the others pull him back in. This is the story of the human race after all. And it will always be the story of those who seek to better themselves forced into mortal combat with those who wish to breed mediocrity and chaos, aided by their allies the decadent, the spoiled, the power mad, and the idiotic.

    Neither the Nazis nor the Japanese militarists had the “right” to “resist occupation”. It is not a human right, and those who wish to make it one, simply perpetuate human misery. But I suppose so long as it is not they who suffer, everything is okay.

    But it is not okay. Europe’s mediocrity does not give them the right to perpetuate human misery, extend it, or “equalize” it between those who inflict suffering and those upon which suffering is inflicted.

    The “underdog” to which he’s referring is either the terrorist or the New York Times itself, a striking example of poor writing from an editor. If his meaning is the latter, he is seeing the most powerful critic of the Bush administration as as victim and approving of damaging national security to hurt its oppressor.

    That is why this is not the end of history. The job is not finished. Humanity is not free to enjoy its vacation at the Bahamas, believing that the world can take care of itself.

    This is why you must attack the enemy until he is utterly incapable of defending himself, even in his own mind. You give them an inch and more people will die, because they will “resist”. Why wouldn’t they, you gave them the right to resist in the first place by being lenient. As Bush is lenient on the New York Times, as America is lenient on terrorists.

    Norway has no ethical system by which they fight for. So what is left for them? Only states of being, only mediocrity, only the gravity well that is human history. They go around in a circle around a planet and they think they are getting out of the well… but they aren’t. They simply are in orbit. Their neighbor, Sweden, after all has been allowing crime to skyrocket because they won’t crush the evil “underdogs”. Europe is doomed, by their own hands.

    The one thing that the US military learned from the Praetorian Guard and various other military coups is this. It is not enough to be strong, you must also be right. Europe has learned nothing at all from their wars and histories. The only thing now to see is who else Europe pulls into the hell pit.

  • http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com/ ymarsakar


    …the day before a planned mass demonstration against the cartoons – Norway’s Minister of Labor and Social Inclusion, Bjarne Håkon Hanssen, hastily called a press conference at a major government office building in Oslo. There, to the astonishment of his supporters, Selbekk issued an abject apology for reprinting the cartoons. At his side, accepting his act of contrition on behalf of 46 Muslim organizations and asking that all threats now be withdrawn, was Mohammed Hamdan, head of Norway’s Islamic Council. In attendance were members of the Norwegian cabinet and the largest assemblage of imams in Norway’s history. It was a picture right out of a sharia courtroom: the dhimmi prostrating himself before the Muslim leader, and the leader pardoning him – and, for good measure, declaring Selbekk to be henceforth under his protection, as if it were he, Hamdan, and not the Norwegian police, that held in his hands the security of citizens in Norway.

    Do not speak of pity and pathetic people. Bookworm is deserving of neither title.

  • pst314

    “Norway was also under occupation by Denmark and Sweden for over 500 years and are VERY much aware…”

    Funny, then, how Norway is unaware of the 1000-year occupation of the Levant by Arab Muslim invaders. You’d think these morally superior Norwegians would feel some outrage at the killing and ethnic cleansing perpetrated by the jihadis, not to mention the subjugation and enslavement of the Christians and Jews of the Middle East, their economic exploitation and routine humiliation. I won’t mention the codification in mainstream Muslim law of a host of regulations designed to suppress and destroy Christianity and Judaism, since I don’t expect a “post-Christian” Norway to feel any genuine sympathy.

    It as particularly apt for Bookworm to mention Vidkun Quisling, since Islam is the KKK of the world’s religions and Norway has chosen to side with men in robes who murder little girls.

  • pst314

    It seems futile to say anything after so many months, but Andreas’ arrogance needed a response.

    Just what IS is about Western Europeans that they keep falling in love with fascistic thugs?

  • http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com/ Ymarsakar

    Just what IS is about Western Europeans that they keep falling in love with fascistic thugs?

    They wouldn’t or couldn’t unify and when America didn’t absorb the entirety of Western Europe into our system as our protectorates and client states (not equal to full state membership), then they just kept on doing what they have been doing for the last 1 thousand years. Remember this, Europe was occupied and controlled by the Roman Empire. When the Roman Empire fell, the Dark Ages of Europe developed. It wasn’t until the European Enlightenment, fueled by the recovered texts of the Greeks, that things got better (and technological progress like the printing press). Europe is a product of historical empires and changes. They are not unified because after 2,000 years, they still don’t have a common language. Compare this with China, which was unified a long time ago. And while China has had plenty of wars, they were mostly civil wars. Europe’s wars tend to bring the whole world crashing down for one reason or another.

    Europe is also a hot bed of innovation, particularly ones centering around abstract thought. Something to do with the cold climate and unforgiving need to hunt and kill your enemies. This tends to make their exports either weaponized ideas or physical weapon products.

    America tried to promote democracy in Europe, which worked, but this democracy was done at the expense of treating Europe as children rather than full adults. In fact, the US treats the Iraqis with more equality than the relationship between Europe and America during the Cold War. Western Europe could not be trusted to defend themselves, let alone the US or our allies. The primary goal after WWII was to defang nations like Japan and Germany. In Germany’s case, that worked rather way too well, with help from the Soviet Union, to be honest.

    Democracy and prosperity are drugs and addictions. They are used to calm or manipulate the masses so that the real power brokers, the real leaders like the United States, can get on with the business of making laws and securing the peace. Democracies don’t make wars on other democracies because the drug doesn’t need to be imported. We have plenty of it produced right here, just check out Obama. Opiate of the Masses indeed.

  • http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com/ Ymarsakar

    We also have plenty of Benedict Arnolds right here in the US of A. Don’t need to look for foreign traitors, since we got plenty of the home grown kind.