Palin’s pass

You all know by now that Palin is abruptly quitting her job as Alaska’s governor.  Speculation is rife as to her motives.  Many see her as planning for her next political office.  I don’t believe that.  Nobody’s going to want a quitter in the White House.  There’s got to be something more going on here.

I hope it’s not ill health on anyone’s part.  It may just be that the attacks on her family have gotten too vicious.  While I suspect she can take it, maybe they can’t.  Or maybe she can’t take it either.  I don’t believe I’ve ever seen such vicious personal attack in my entire life.  It would be sad, though, if the politics of personal destruction — a tactic that’s entirely unrelated to her politics or competence — proved so spectacularly successful.

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  • Leah

    So sad, if true that politics of personal destruction got to her, the media will have a lot to answer for.

  • Zhombre

    She ought to tell the cicadas in the media and the Stepford Democrats who looked down on her like a pack of snobs to kiss off. Or whatever the Alaskan equivalent is. Perhaps, Eat yellow snow.

  • BrianE

    This was about half way down the AP story:

    Palin’s family and the ridicule they endure being in the public eye was part of her decision. She complained that her 14-month-old son, Trig, who was diagnosed with Down’s syndrome, had been “mocked and ridiculed by some mean-spirited adults recently.” She didn’t elaborate.

    Palin campaigned on ethics reform in the 2006 election, defeating incumbent Gov. Frank Murkowski in the Republican primary and a former two-term Democratic governor, Tony Knowles, in the general election.

    She enjoyed an extended honeymoon with lawmakers and voters alike. Her popularity was in the 80 percentile range, even though that fell after the bruising, partisan presidential campaign.

    Palin’s delivery of two weeks’ notice rattles a Republican Party plagued with setbacks in recent weeks, including extramarital affairs disclosed by two other 2012 presidential prospects, Nevada Sen. John Ensign and South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford.

    No attribution to the statement that the ridicule her family faced was part of the reason, so it’s curious it’s included in a straight news story. Usually you would attribute something like that to “she said”, “un-named source”, etc to prevent it from looking like editorializing.

    Not sure what Sanford or Ensign have to do with it, but these names will be associated with any story concerning Republicans for the next two years.

    The hatchet job done on Palin after the election I think, was advanced scouting to see what smears, insinuations, family attacks will be possible in the next election cycle. It’s not going to be pretty.

    I agree, I find it hard to believe she’s doing this to run for president. She would most likely finish her term as governor if she were running. That would still give her two years to put the campaign together.

    Though she did say she was resigning because she wasn’t running for re-election and didn’t want to be a lame duck. If that statement were made by 90% of politicians out there it would be discounted, but she may be one of those rare politicians that actually believes in living up to campaign promises.

  • el gordo

    Wasn´t she $500,000 in legal debt due to frivolous ethics suits against her (all of which came to nothing but cost her dearly?)

    The Palins are not rich. That plus the constant vilification and maybe they simply could not afford to go on.

    If that is the reason, then we get the politicians we deserve: thickskinned multi-millionaires, powermad narcissists, corrupt machine types, and their sons and heirs. And let nobody give you the old “If you can´t stand the heat” crap. If the treatment of Palin is standard politics now, CITIZENS will not take part.


    I am hoping her early out is two-fold.

    Sometimes in war, you have drop back and recoup and then reset the soldiers to charge.

    There was no way she, if her intentions are to run in 2012 or 2016, to recoup and attack from her now past position as governor. She was a shiny object in the middle of the battlefield and not a Republican soldier in her midst to deflect the fodder. Just the opposite, they pointed the flashlight in her direction.

    This, in some small way, also speaks to Book’s/Neo’s post ‘Taking off liberal blinders’ as well. There is no way, currently, to deflect the ‘glowing halo’ from Obama. We could shine a billion flashlights, send up flares, grab the bullhorn and shout WARNING/BEWARE and the believers would see it as a sign to continue to engage in the myth. Adding to the current sighs, is the less than stellar performance of the conservative movement, who seem adrift in their own life boat, trying like hell to hold onto their precious jobs rather than pursue the truth for the good of the nation. Maybe this is what the two party system has come to. I am not sure and neither am I convinced it is really working for us still. Congress is and has been a smug little club of elites, who once elected, represent themselves more than they represent their constituents.
    I don’t see a change unless term limits are placed on these congressional hustlers.
    It’s going to be a very bumpy ride until there is a referendum placed on the ballot asking for term limits and you can bet … it will only get uglier from there. The high and mighty will not be cut down without a fight.

  • BrianE

    Good points Sadie,
    Term limits isn’t the cure, but is a practical step in the right direction.
    It will never happen because there is too much money in Washington. Government spending in the millions isn’t even pocket change, it’s chump change. Billions roll off the tongue of politicians as if they were tipping the waiter.
    The other remedy that is desperately needed is a balanced budget amendment. Make the federal government live within its means like the states. Except the states are now printing their own money– in the form of IOU’s.


    Yes, California is now using Monopoly money (a/k/a IOU’s) but the Feds are the true masters of it – they have the biggest ATM card in the world. Now that they have swiped the magnetic band off, they cut another card and are using it in China.

    Whatever you do/think Brian, don’t bend over anywhere near D.C. or you’ll find your checking account minus money.

    Of course, there is an immediate cure for some money woes – line item veto, but I wouldn’t put my head in the oven waiting for it to happen.


    Colin Powell will be interviewed on CNN Sunday, July 5. This may (or may not) be a precursor to how the wind is really blowing.

  • Charlie (Colorado)

    I think there are two aspects to this.

    (1) as el Gordo points out, this saves her what was looking to be $1 million a year in legal fees defending herself against barratry.

    (2) it opens the door to big book deals and speaking fees while allowing her a national platform.

    I suspect the quitter theme is overstated; if she quits and disappears, maybe, but as it stands, if she leaves her gubernatorial office and starts speaking out, making the point every time that she had to quit he Governor’s office in order to fight the slanders, I suspect it won’t hurt her. And she could accumulate a lot of IOUs by 2011.

  • BrianE

    I listened to her speech and agree with Bill Kristol that while this is a big gamble, since she’ll have to overcome the quitter mantle, she is preparing to run in 2012.
    This frees her from her duties as governor and allows her to spend all of her time down here, writing a book, studying the issues and building a grassroots campaign structure.
    She’s taking a page from Obama, the difference being she won’t be taking money not doing the job she was elected to do, unlike Barack.
    If she can pull this off, she deserves to be president. I read someplace that it was luck that landed her in the governor’s job. Some people make their own luck.

  • Oldflyer

    I have stated for some time that I would not be surprised if she walked away, nor would I blame her.

    The “quitter” label goes beyond fallacious, it is ridiculous. Who is she supposedly quitting on? What does she owe us? She stated pretty clearly the deleterious effect that the slime campaign was having on Alaska. She said she is leaving in part because it is good for Alaska. There is no argument about that at this point. Her office was completely distracted; and since there was no risk, and no cost, the grubby little people who harassed her with accusation after spurious accusation would never let up.

    She has multiple responsibilities. It may simply be that she considers her highest responsibility is to her family. They were under constant attack; not only from smear merchants but financially.

    I have no more idea of what she will do than anyone else. Whatever she decides, I wish her well.

    If she leaves the public arena, it will be our loss. Among other tragedies it will be a victory for the slime merchants, and will embolden them for the future. She was always better than her detractors. She always will be. She brought class and excitement to a grubby process. God Bless You, Sarah Palin.

  • Skippy-san

    If she really is leaving politics, as Andrea Mitchell says, then its a great day for Alaska-and America.

    I doubt it though. Like a bad dream she will be back. Bill Kristol is not going to let his creation go quietly into that great good night.

    You are ignoring what may be the more likely possibility. She really is as erratic as Steve Schmidt and the other critics have made her out to be.

    When Richard Nixon resigned the presidency, he said “the country needs a full-time president” and that he couldn’t put the country through an impeachment. Nearly half of Palin’s speech this afternoon was complaining about people being mean to her.

    If she thinks that life is going to get easier in a Senate or presidential primary, she’s hallucinating. Any future race is going to be twice as vicious as the last year has been.

    Subtlety isn’t exactly Sarah Palin’s strong suit. This could very well be a ploy to launch a presidential campaign early. Various polls have shown that she isn’t doing as well with registered Republicans nationally as her stature would suggest and her numbers in Alaska has dropped nearly 30 points in under 11 months.

    If that’s what happening, it will be the most spectacularly monumental failure in American political history. You don’t quit the only statewide office you’ve ever held in the middle of your term and expect people to see that as a qualification for national office. Quitting when things are downright horrible at home and abroad won’t look great on a resume either.

  • BrianE

    Nearly half of Palin’s speech this afternoon was complaining about people being mean to her.– Skippy san
    Hey Skippy, I’d suggest you read the speech, or in case you can’t read, listen to it. You’re statement is, to put it gently, laughable.
    Everything else you said is opinion and worth whatever you think you’re opinion is worth.

    A little of her speech:

    If I have learned one thing: LIFE is about choices!

    And one chooses how to react to circumstances. You can choose to engage in things that tear down, or build up. I choose to work very hard on a path for fruitfulness and productivity. I choose NOT to tear down and waste precious time; but to build UP this state and our country, and her industrious, generous, patriotic, free people!

    Life is too short to compromise time and resources… it may be tempting and more comfortable to just keep your head down, plod along, and appease those who demand: “Sit down and shut up”, but that’s the worthless, easy path; that’s a quitter’s way out. And a problem in our country today is apathy. It would be apathetic to just hunker down and “go with the flow”.

    Nah, only dead fish “go with the flow”.

    No. Productive, fulfilled people determine where to put their efforts, choosing to wisely utilize precious time… to BUILD UP.

    And there is such a need to BUILD up and FIGHT for our state and our country. I choose to FIGHT for it! And I’ll work hard for others who still believe in free enterprise and smaller government; strong national security for our country and support for our troops; energy independence; and for those who will protect freedom and equality and LIFE… I’ll work for and campaign for those PROUD to be American, and those who are INSPIRED by our ideals and won’t deride them.

    I WILL support others who seek to serve, in or out of office, for the RIGHT reasons, and I don’t care what party they’re in or no party at all. Inside Alaska – or Outside Alaska.

    But I won’t do it from the Governor’s desk.

    Love the Dead Fish!

  • Charles

    I listened to part of her resignation speech. It was classic Palin, I loved it. Unlike most politician’s she did not give a reason because she doesn’t have to. No matter what she does or says, she has learned, that the Mainstream Media will say she said or did something else. (Trig isn’t her baby, he is her daughters; She is a Nazi Sympathizer – said by an Obama spokesperson and repeated by the Media; She wants creationism taught in schools and evolution banned; She cheated on her husband with Todd’s business partner; etc.) So, and this is what I think is so refreshing about her, why play their game? – she will do it on her terms. Kudos to her!

    And if you think about (even for those who “hate” her, please rationally think about it) no other politician’s family has been attacked with the same venom that many have used against hers. I think it is because she is such a strong woman who doesn’t play the victim game that they felt that they had to go after her family when they realized that she doesn’t flinch.

    Her pregnant daughter went through her teenage pregancy in the national spotlight and then had her baby’s father say nasty things about her and her family so he could have his 15 minutes of fame. (And, really, what mature adult wants to listen to a teenage boy who knocked a girl up? Seriously, are they all perverts in the media?) The Palin’s baby has had people say some really loathsome things about his disability. And then, lastly, the whole barrel-full of bitter, vile, perverted garbage from Letterman about her other daughter. These last two have really got to be sucker-punches to all but the lonely, most unfeeling, pathetic individuals. So, yea, maybe she is resigning because of attacks on her family.

    It really takes a small mind to go after someone’s kids the way some have gone after hers. Even if the Palin’s try to protect them from the media they will still hear things in school from classmates. So many seemed to have forgotten that they are kids. If one of her reasons for resigning is to further protect her family – then I again say kudos to her. For that is real family values; Protecting her family rather than using them to get votes shows her true character.

  • Charles

    P.S. Brian E.; I loved the dead fish comment too!

  • Skippy-san

    Well my opinion is worth a lot, thank you very much.

    You might want to check out the preceding three paragraphs before the ones you quoted and the whole stupid basketball metaphor she used. And the statement that the world needs more babies with birth defects? There are a heck of a lot of better ways to say what she was trying to say you know. At a minimum, she needs a better speech writer.

    You do prove one thing though-Palinistas will not listen to reason when it comes to this particular woman.

    If anything conservatives should be rejoicing! Getting her out of the way allows someone who can actually compete with Obama to work to do so without having her around sucking all the oxygen (and common sense) out the room.

    She was supposed to go back to Alaska and do her homework-actually govern the state (and avoid the “The Job’s in Juneau” bumper stickers that have been springing up), spend a year and a half learning how to do things like answer a question in a comprehensible way, learn something about how economics really works, not say out loud that she would like her state to be poor, and maybe study some foreign policy in her spare time. She certainly ticked off her own legislature over a meaningless fight about the stimulus money. (Since she ended up taking all but 3%).

    Slugging it out with TV late night hosts and photoshopping bloggers is not a good way to do that. I have yet to see punching below one’s weight work as a political tactic. Even Charles Krauthammer agrees with me on that-and he’s not a big fan of most of my points of view.

  • Oldflyer

    Skippy-san said in part of his overly long last post:
    She was supposed to go back to Alaska and do her homework-actually govern the state (and avoid the “The Job’s in Juneau” bumper stickers that have been springing up), spend a year and a half learning how to do things like answer a question in a comprehensible way, learn something about how economics really works, not say out loud that she would like her state to be poor, and maybe study some foreign policy in her spare time. She certainly ticked off her own legislature over a meaningless fight about the stimulus money”
    End Quote
    I quote you for two reasons. First anyone who would post that first sentence has very little credibility with any literate person. I won’t even address the falsehoods contained. The second sentence is accurate, but misguided. Sarah Palin hit the national scene exactly because she was willing to tick off her corrupt legislature and other corrupt elements in Alaska.

    Skippy, I really suspect that Sarah Palin is a better man than you. I know she is a better person than most of her critics. Everyone knows that people like you and the “elitists” in both parties would not be scared (expletive deleted) of her if she were not such a formidable politician.

  • BrianE

    Sarah Palin is going to have to prove she wants to be president by having a well rounded portfolio of ideas, even though she was right on the one issue that will determine the country’s future for generations to come- the issue of energy.
    Wind energy and solar are fools gold and at best will provide 10% of US energy. Coal gassification is a proven technology that would cut CO2 by 1/3 while dramatically reducing the real pollutants, but off the table by the ideologues.
    Gen III nuclear is ready– it only takes Japan a little over 4 years to build one, even the French can do it in 7. Gen IV demonstrations are being built.
    These are the fuels that will provide sufficient baseload energy.
    Oh, and natural gas– which the governor of Alaska realizes may save our bacon, when it becomes painfully obvious over the next 10 years that the candle industry may become the growth industry Barack was talking about.
    It’s about then natural gas will be available down here. She had the foresight, the question is, will the rest of the country understand what Alaskan’s have done for us. And yes, they will make a boatload of money off us. Good for them.
    She is more qualified than the neophyte in office because of that one issue alone.
    But, I do want her more comfortable with a wide variety of issues. She’s obviously smart enough. In some respects it will depend on who she goes to for advice.
    She also understands the use of power. Her political instincts are good. Whatever the political pundits say to do– do the opposite and you’ll do fine. It seems anymore their job is to turn the candidate and the campaign into a lie.
    At least that’s what appears to be the case with our current neophyte in chief.

    I don’t know if she’ll run in 2012. I think she’ll make that decision in a year or so. But I do know this. Those backstabbing buffoons who claimed to be professional advisors to McCain, you know, the anonymous ones who you would think would be slinking away in disgrace to become what they are qualified for, Walmart greeter (Actually I doubt if they would succeed at that) are beneath contempt. Sarah Palin was actually the bright spot in their otherwise dismal campaign. May all their appendenges shrivel to the size of their manhood.
    As to their special baby, Trig, and her comment, you’ve obviously never known a
    Down Syndrome child, and while I wouldn’t wish it on anyone, the world could use more of the unconditional love and joy they offer. You would understand the comment with a wider perspective.


    Since Palin has extricated herself from politics (we don’t know if it’s a short term or long term at this point) the only remaining question is….

    Can women play a vital role in politics and not be slammed for being born female. Moreover, if she intends to be a relevant political force, can we accept her with husband, with children. Not only was Palin scorned, but her husband also took quite a few hits.

    Whether earned or unearned barbs, they seem to have a much sharper edge when applied to women. It may be that I am biased and see it through a different lens. The armed services does not allow women into combat, not because they cannot do the same job as their male counterparts, but I think it is because women give birth. It’s just a biological fact that insures that there is another generation of both genders.

    Of course, on a much deeper and primordial level, long before fornication and procreation was revealed to a higher brain by connecting the two facts; I’d venture to say that there was a genuine fear of women since they had this ‘magical’ power to create. One shudders to think of cataclysmic events before and after any birth, i.e., volcanoes, earthquakes. Maybe that’s why the Hawaiians through virgins into the active volcanoes.

    Fast forward to 2009 and the primordial brain is still questioning the role/power of women (with all due respect to the men in here, who have climbed out of the cave into the 21st century) there are many who keep throwing stones (barbs).

  • Ymarsakar

    Well my opinion is worth a lot, thank you very much.

    It’s not worth the ammo to sink your boat, Skippy.

    You think Iraq was a mistake. That’s cause you’re a mistake needing a problem.

    You think a strong military is a mistake, that’s cause you’re a mistake waiting to happen.

    You don’t like women in the military, that’s cause you prefer a Democrat draft. You don’t like Republican spending, because you’d rather people like you get to decide which defense contractors get the favoritism.

    You fail on national security, you fail on actual domestic American politics, and you fail on the basic human decency factors that underline any successfully great nation.


    correction: that would be ‘threw’

    Maybe that’s why the Hawaiians through virgins into the active volcanoes.

  • Ymarsakar

    I’m still in the cave, Sadie.

    Which is why I will wait a bit before offering my analysis of Sarah Palin’s speech and decision.

    Like with Obama, the proof takes time to rise.

  • Skippy-san

    Once upon a time, conservatives actually believed that they were better than liberals and their childish tactics. And once upon a time, that was actually true.

    That’s certainly not the case today. The very people who railed against the liberal playbook have picked it up and begun holding it to their aggrieved bosoms-with the same results.

    This comment thread would seem to prove it.

    However for the record Oldflyer-there are more than a few literate people who have said what I said. Including Mara Liasion and a few other commentators. As for the facts contained therein they are true.

    As for the comment on babies it would seem to me that she would wish more healthy babies on the world-while all the while taking care of those who are not. That’s the better way to phrase it.



    Just let me know if I should duck n’ cover first (wink-wink).

    A quick note to Skippy…

    It’s not a commentator’s opinion that should sway an argument one way or the other, but the neutrality of the reader to differentiate between intent and outcome of said opinion.

    “As for the comment on babies it would seem to me that she would wish more healthy babies on the world-while all the while taking care of those who are not. That’s the better way to phrase it.”

    I am sure you realize that as a woman and mother of a child with challenges that she was defending her child. I don’t believe she had any negative intentions with her comments. We don’t get to pick and choose gender nor health of an infant.
    But all of us who observe, have the responsibility to be supportive.

    Btw…F/Y/I some of us here were once upon a time Democrats. This thread proves nothing more than we share a variety of opinions and approaches to a civil discourse on a variety of subjects. I attempt not to shoot the messenger, but certainly don’t relish the message being gift wrapped, only to open it and find an empty box.

  • Ymarsakar

    And once upon a time, that was actually true.

    A nice fairy tale, I suppose. It’s sad that this is all that’s left for the Leftist supporting Obamacans. In so far as your blog supports the notion of an Obamacan and not an American, skippy, what purpose do you have in telling fairy tales here?

    The “original” conservatives are made up out of people who believe the same things about Bush that the Leftists told them to believe. Why this makes the isolationists “real conservatives” is, of course, best left to one’s imagination. And one had better have lots of it.

    The very people who railed against the liberal playbook have picked it up and begun holding it to their aggrieved bosoms-with the same results.

    This blog is not your personal mirror. To what purpose are you playing at here.

    However for the record Oldflyer-there are more than a few literate people who have said what I said.

    I suppose that justifies the Left’s love affair with dictators and nasty two bit crooks like Tookie Williams. “I am right cause my buddies think the same way”. A great way to run affairs in the adult world, wouldn’t you say, skippy.

    Let’s all dance in a circle, for universal harmony or pin ups of hot girls. That’ll be the day.

    As for the comment on babies it would seem to me that she would wish more healthy babies on the world-while all the while taking care of those who are not.

    Let’s be very clear here. You do not care about healthy babies. You care about putting down Sarah Palin. This what you learned in the so called Navy leadership school?

  • Ymarsakar

    Btw…F/Y/I some of us here were once upon a time Democrats.

    Skippy’s part of the Pat Buchanan crowd. If he was a Leftist, the apostates here would make him more aggrieved. Since he isn’t, he just shares in their philosophy of the world and of America, Democrats or not would not change anything. Not for him.

    In fact, he would kick out all the classical liberals, the neo-cons as he calls them, out of the Republican party if he could. But he can’t. So he has to steam.

  • Mike Devx

    Sarah Palin is no dummy. I have no idea whether her decision to leave the Governor’s office indicates that she is leaving politics, or that she has chosen a new political phase.

    If it is the latter, this excerpt from Melissa Clothier will help explain:

    A hint as to why might come from the response to this event given by a friend of John McCain (and no friend of Sarah Palin):

    “We’ve seen a lot of nutty behavior from governors and Republican leaders in the last three months, but this one is at the top of that,” said John Weaver, a longtime friend and confidant of Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), the party’s presidential nominee in 2008 whose of selection of Palin catapulted the first-term Alaska governor to national prominence.

    The war within the Republican Party between the elites and the non-elites is apparently vicious and nasty beyond all bounds, and mostly hidden from our outsider eyes. Sarah Palin (and her team) would have clearly known of it in all its full-blown nastiness, however. Can you run for president via any traditional path when half of your own party is deadly determined to take you down no matter what the cost?

    So if her intent is to remain in politics, I think she is basically pulling a Newt. She’s stepping outside the boundaries of the party. The catastrophic handling of her VP run by the McCain team – and the backstabbing against her by members of that team – surely opened her eyes and perhaps gave her second thoughts about having to rely on the Republican machine for her political future. What she will do, as an activist outside the boundaries of the party, are fun to think about.

    Then again, if this is not about politics, if there is a personal crisis afoot, then she will simply be in my thoughts and she has my blessings.

  • el gordo


    “If she thinks that life is going to get easier in a Senate or presidential primary, she’s hallucinating.”

    Nonsense, skippy. For most Senators, life is fairly easy. Even Al Franken can be one.

    Palin is a normal, honest person who didn´t sign up to see herself and her family dragged through the mud and financially ruined. What was done to her is unprecedented. The frivolous attacks against an elected governor also negated the will of the Alaskan voters. If being able to stand constant vilification is a prerequisite for any office now, “national office will dwindle down to the unhealthily singleminded (Clinton, Obama), the timeserving emirs of Incumbistan (Biden, McCain) and dynastic heirs (Bush). Our loss.” (Mark Steyn)

    No thanks to people like you. What rankles me is that I am getting exactly the government YOU deserve.

  • Danny Lemieux

    I am still ruminating about Skippy’s comment, “You don’t quit the only statewide office you’ve ever held in the middle of your term and expect people to see that as a qualification for national office.” And Obama got where he is how, exactly?

    No…I definitely don’t see Palin as a quitter. She’s up to something…and I hope very much that it involves national office. People sneered and jeered at Reagan when he first ran against Goldwater. It only made him stronger.

  • Ymarsakar

    I believe Steyn knows personally what persecution is. He has see it in the Human Rights Commission’s little inquisition there in Canada.


    el gordo

    No thanks to people like you. What rankles me is that I am getting exactly the government YOU deserve.

    Simply adored this summary tag!

  • Ymarsakar

    Watch her speech. Listen to it with the ears of a true ally, and not as a Leftist traitor to America.

    I will support her in whatever path she seeks, as a true friend and ally. And it just so happens that her enemies are my enemies.

    Obama took just less than 5 months to materialize in his demonic, Demoncrat, form. Sarah Palin will not take nearly as long to materialize, should she wish to.

  • Ymarsakar

    Sadie, concerning your musing on the topic of women in politics, let me just say this.

    These attacks, like terrorist attacks, will stop when people like us make it stop. When we obliterate the enemy, so that their terrorism is ineffective. Dead people can’t do terrorist acts, Sadie. That’s the beauty and equality of death. Skin color doesn’t matter. Age, wealth, personal educational backgrounds do not matter. Death is certainly equal outcomes eventually ; )

    Why do Hamas use human shields? Cause it works. Why does the Left attack people personally? Cause it works. Why does it work? Cause strength still dictates most of human behavior. If you bow down to an attack, if an enemy gets inside your OODA loop, you are without strength to fight back.



    Had to do a little reading on the OODA loop and reiterate here, what I translated from the Rubicon’s header: Who is clever/smart, he that learns from everyone.

    The key is to obscure your intentions and make them unpredictable to your opponent while you simultaneously clarify his intentions. That is, operate at a faster tempo to generate rapidly changing conditions that inhibit your opponent from adapting or reacting to those changes and that suppress or destroy his awareness. Thus, a hodgepodge of confusion and disorder occur to cause him to over- or under-react to conditions or activities that appear to be uncertain, ambiguous, or incomprehensible.

    After reading the above … I suspect that the OODA loop is being used by the WH.

    “These attacks, like terrorist attacks, will stop when people like us make it stop.”

    The operative word/s here are ‘like us’. Identification of “us” appears to be more like fighting an enemy out of uniform. The strikes against Palin came from within and out of party affiliation. In my no. 5 post, I said, She was a shiny object in the middle of the battlefield and not a Republican soldier in her midst to deflect the fodder.
    From what I read and understand, the OODA loop works best one-on-one since a group’s reaction varies in speed and observation. I can see now why a cohesive well trained military unit can accomplish specific goals.

  • Ymarsakar

    I’ve tried to explain the OODA loop material provided by Colonel Boyd here before. I am unsure as to the efficacy of such explanations, however, since I don’t get a lot of feedback on this subject.

    The subject is complex, and much of comprehending it has to do with learning other ancillary military and historic details. Which I cannot control.

    OODA stands for Observe, Orient, Decide, and Act.

    It is the military distillation of human psychology, the portion that is most relevant on the battlefield. OODA is not just a description, but it is also a process, a loop. 1,2,3,4 and then 1 again.

    If you get inside the loop, what does that mean? It means that you can finish your loop before your opponent does. It means that before the opponent is at step 2, you are at step 4, and when he is at step 3, you are at step 1. But the loop doesn’t function in a vacuum.

    What we do, what we observe and decide to do, is based upon what our enemies do. Remember the military when they said “the enemy has a vote too”? That is what they were referring to ( in addition to Sun Tzu, Clausewitz, and so forth).

    It is also why Target Focus Training concentrates so much on the accurate targeting of human bodies rather than defense. It is also why people say a good defense is a good offense. If you make other people react to you, they won’t have the time to come up with an attack. They’ll be too busy. In war, that’s too busy dying. In a hand to hand fight, that would be too busy being crippled and put in a reflex of pain, pain, pain, joint break to be thinking about doing anything to you.

    The subject is immense, because it touches upon ALL human decisions and actions. And that’s a pretty wide field, Sadie. Even for the cosmopolitan audience of Bookworm ; )

  • Ymarsakar

    Colonel Boyd was an American treasure. He designed the F-15 based upon his EM theory, which utilizes OODA. This fighter finally gave Americans the full spectrum war fighting capability to dogfight our enemies at all altitudes.

    It was a true air superiority fighter.

    America has always been defined and saved by single individuals. Visionaries. Leaders. George Washington. Abraham Lincoln. Harriet Tubman. Teddie Roosevelt.

    Communities? Mobs are formed from communities. Gangs. Parochial world views.

  • BrianE

    If she really is leaving politics, as Andrea Mitchell says, then its a great day for Alaska-and America.
    I doubt it though. Like a bad dream she will be back. Bill Kristol is not going to let his creation go quietly into that great good night.

    Knowing you are a Buchanan supporter explains the Kristol comment, but what policy has she implemented that has harmed you or the country? Even if you are opposed to her as a presidental candiate, what policy has she supported in Alaska that would prompt you to say that? And please give me something more than a bumper sticker. As to the stimulus money, sometimes principle trumps expediency.
    Once upon a time, conservatives actually believed that they were better than liberals and their childish tactics. And once upon a time, that was actually true.
    I’m not sure what to make of that comment, and how it relates to this thread and the comments, especially “childish tactics”. What tactics would those be? And how have they been employed here?
    We are better than most liberals and that’s part of what makes it difficult to be elected.

  • Mike Devx

    A minor aside. I was listening to Sarah Palin’s speech this morning, I’d read the transcript provided by the Miami Herald last night.

    I heard her say:

    “In fact, this decision comes after much consideration, consideration and prayer. And finally polling the most important people in my life – my children…”

    And I thought, I don’t remember the word ‘prayer’ in the transcript. So I went back to it, and sure enough, the transcript read:

    “In fact, this decision comes after much consideration, and finally polling the most important people in my life – my children…”

    Hmmm. They must have considered the word “prayer” to be one of those odd verbal noises that people accidentally make in the middle of their speech, kind of like a “gurgle”, or a “hmmph”, or even an Obama “i, uh, uh, uh, I, uh, uh, uh”, and they just decided to edit that little “prayer” baby right on out of there!

    You… betcha!

  • Zhombre

    Y wrote: “Even for the cosmopolitan audience of Bookworm”

    Call me cosmopolitan again, and I’ll whack your butt with my copy of American Rifleman.

  • Charles Martel

    Whenever I hear the word cosmopolitan I immediately think of “15 New Tricks in Bed That Will Drive Him Out of His Mind!”

  • Ymarsakar

    Hey, believe it or not, ‘cosmopolitan’ like ‘liberal’, once upon a time, meant good things ; )

  • Ymarsakar

    And no Charles! Not those good things.

  • Ymarsakar

    07/04/2009 at 11:32 am

    Steve White writes:
    >if the staffers were so brilliant, why aren’t we addressing ‘President McCain’ today?

    Saul’s book, Voltaire’s Bastards, elaborates extensively on this issue. McCain’s staffers were elite technocrats in the style of McNamera, Kissinger, Chirac and others of this class of “reason.”

    From the perspective of a risk manager, they’re akin to highly trained professionals who mistakenly believe the world complies with their simplistic models. It reminds one of the misadventures of Long Term Capital Management in the late 1990s, when several of the finance and economic world’s elites jeopardized the global financial market through their naive assumption that financial market behavior is gaussian (e.g. it follows a bell curve on probability distributions). While a college undergraduate could open up his Intro to Business Statistics textbook to the first chapter and read that such distributions can only be used when a half dozen so assumptions can be made, including statistical independence and absence of correlation (e.g. each coin toss is independent; getting tails last time doesn’t have any influence on the next toss), and subsequently recognize that financial markets don’t have such conditions, the “world’s brightest” financial market technocrats felt they knew better and plowed LTCM into the ground. They nearly took the global market along with them.

    McCain, Obama, Pelosi, Reid and others seek power and project it through the myth that their policies and influences actually effect outcomes. This is often akin to the five year old in the coach section of a commercial aircraft wielding a toy steering wheel and believing he is flying the plane. Unfortunately, in the progressive model, the only power they wield is to increase error in the actual functional system. Commands to grow corn in the USSR by the technocratic elites doesn’t increase food production, but it does cause a shift of resource from the natural system to a false one, causing an outcome of near zero food production. China experienced similar outcomes when it empowered party technocrats to order farmers into communes and compete with each other for party favor through party favor bidding wars. Each commune promised a higher and higher return on produced crops, resulting in the impossibly high levels coming only through the seizure of the crops needed to feed the commune workers. When tens of millions of farmers starved, and further years crops not even planted due to the mass death and absence of population to grow food, China finally relented and re-privatized agriculture.

    Obama’s policies are a strong march down that of the commune. We’ve made GM and Chrysler workers communes, with state and worker shared ownership of production. Cap & Trade and other control delusions will regulate Ford to death, forcing them to relent or expire. When 40-50 million Americans die, and the replacement of them with immigrants from the south is no longer sufficient to stave off catastrophic failure, the technocrat may relent. However, as we’ve seen in China and Iran, we won’t return to the freedom of our founding. We’ll only return to the lighter versions of tyranny.

    Read Saul’s book; while he rants at length at time, it’s foundational material for the understanding of the ilk that Powell, McCain, Obama and such represent. It’s why Palin is a true terror in their eyes. She is not one of them. It’s clear in her language and behavior. We need to understand our enemy that is present across both parties in order to understand what strategy we must all employ.

    07/04/2009 at 11:44 am

    One additional comment… We need to move ourselves past the path of identification with a single political individual. The reason for Palin’s popularity, in my assessment, is that we recognize her as one of us (albeit a very sharp and well spoken representative).

    It could be argued that our representative model of government has caused us to relinquish too much of our personal responsibility. We wait for others to do what we want, grow angry when they don’t and yet we sit on our asses complaining. History has shown that a small minority of extremely active individuals tends to control the majority. Obama knows this and has created his astroturf version via Acorn and its aligned sister organizations.

    We must organize, agitate, intimidate the technocratic elites, expose one after another for their deviance (the narcissism that correlates to the the technocratic elite always ends up with “live boys and dead girls” in their closets, along with financial misconduct, illegal gifts, and a life of excess). Right now, we have millions who have lost jobs and homes. How would they respond to a profile of their congressman who just took a $300K trip to the tropics along with his/her family as part of a “fact finding mission to learn how sea shells are produced”?

    We must target one after another for political exposure, drag out the stories of excess, corruption, sexual deviance, infidelity and special favor. In Iowa, we’ve quietly let Senator Harkin conceal his interesting little perversions and his proclivity for global travel with his family at your expense.

    So while we like people like Palin, we need to ask: What is it about her that we like? I think you’ll find that it’s that she is like us. By not making our movement dependent upon a single leader, the technocratic elites of the Progressive Castle cannot take us down with a single shot.

    Happy Independence Day America! May this day be the one where we awaken, get our lazy butts off the couch and rise up to storm the Castle.

    Pretty good comment I wanted to share here with you all.

  • Mike Devx

    Ran across a great article, here are the first two paragraphs:

    Not to go an analogy too far, but Sarah Palin seems to be taking a page from the Hollywood playbook of George Lucas. She has just completed her own introductory trilogy, and it was an astonishing success.

    First, she was a fantastically successful conservative governor lurking beneath the mainstream media’s radar. Next, she was a vice-presidential candidate who, even though she lost, still did more to electrify the base than the headliner. Third, she has now drawn the curtain on her post-election career as a sitting governor, a period that saw her deftly turn the tables on mainstream haters like David Letterman. Like “Star Wars,” she’s not everyone’s cup of tea, but her fans are rabid and chomping at the bit for the next installments. And as to these future installments, the question is whether the next step is going to be “The Phantom Menace” or something that doesn’t suck.


    In reading the whole article, I’m struck by the fact that the Democrat response to Palin’s resignation contains in part: “How dare you leave your current job to do something else? Under NO CIRCUMSTANCES is that acceptable!”

    And I was immediately reminded of one of Ayn Rand’s great twists in Atlas Shrugged, when the Statists, under increasing pressure and desperation as everything collapsed around them, passed a law requiring that every person HAD to remain in their current job. They couldn’t switch jobs nor even quit.

    The author of that article lists a number of compelling reasons that resigning the governorship is good for Sarah Palin. (Yes, there are downsides…) One thing I noted is it frees her up to do a number of things within the conservative arena outside of the Republican Party apparatus, especially avoiding the election battles; for the purposes of election battles, Palin has become a nuclear target to the leftists and Statists.

    One thing she is free to do now is write her book. This may be a critical book: Think “Profiles in Courage” (er, ghostwritten for JFK), or “Dreams of My Father” (er, almost definitely ghostwritten by Ayers for Obama)… Assuming she doesn’t ghostwrite it, and it is very good, her supporters will buy it in droves. It would form the basis of her rehabilitation from the nuclear smear campaign against her that has been underway now for almost a year.

    And she’ll be mixing it up in the lower 48 as Newt Gingrich has been, lending her massive popularity and natural conservatism to various causes – albeit with the high negatives caused by the nuclear smear campaign. If she can speak well to the issues, reaching and convincing “the middle”, she can have an incredible effect. And she only has to reach “the middle”. Screw the leftists, screw the Statists, screw the Palin haters. They won’t matter even though they’ll keep going after her. It’s congenital with them, like a bull seeing a red cape, she provokes instant, helpless, foaming-at-the-mouth rage among them. It’s totally instinctive and utterly irrational.

    She just has to reach “middle America”, all those people whose doubts about Obama and massive Statism… are growing… day by day by day. What an effect she could have.

  • Ymarsakar
  • Ymarsakar

    This is a really good round up of the video responses on the networks.


    Charles Post #40

    Go figure, I was thinking recipes for a good ‘cosmo’.

  • BrianE

    I have noticed a common theme in the lefts reaction to Palin and the days and weeks following the unprecedented drive by our military into Baghdad.
    “Her obligation was to finish her term and serve the residents of Alaska” shares a similarity to the “you broke it, you fix it” mantra by the left mostly directed at Rumsfeld.
    Does the left really care about Alaska and its future any more than they cared about what happened to Iraqis? It seems to me it is merely an attempt to control the debate and create a negative impression to those on the sidelines.
    I suppose its part of the empathy club that conservatives are often beat about the head with. At some point the left will be able to just shout “it’s number 3” and the country will all respond with a “yeah, those uncaring republicans”.

  • BrianE

    Palin enters the arena where the fight is not between liberal and conservative; nor is it between Republican and Democrat. The fight is between elite and the common person who works every day and continually asks how Washington D.C., under both parties, is so out of control.

    Elitism has never been popular in America. Major American critics from H.L Menken to Rush Limbaugh made careers poking fun at elites.

    Elitism is on display today as never before. Senate and Congressional seats are passed down in the family. Just look at the family members lining up for Ted Kennedy’s seat or Caroline’s assumption that she deserved the New York Senate seat. Vice President Biden’s Senate seat is being kept warm for his son, now serving in the Middle East. Lots of talk that Michelle Obama may be the next Illinois senator.

    Hereditary government on display. How much more elitist can a nation become?

    Well worth reading. The author uses a poker analogy– Palin went “all in”.

    This article makes perfect sense considering the absolute foam-at-the-mouth frenzy that the left and, to a lesser extent, RINO’s have engaged in in the months following the ’08 election.