Is it racist to remind people that the American government first disarmed Native Americans and then decimated them?

A week or two ago, I put this poster on my site:

Guns in government hands

I think it’s an un-racist poster.  It reminds people that government will always be a minority’s worst enemies.

What I didn’t know was that, in Greeley, Colorado, someone put up a billboard echoing that sentiment:

The friend who sent me this video said exactly the right thing about those who are now crying foul:

I love the premise here: “Pay no attention to history, it may offend someone!”

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  • Danny Lemieux

    The main person that was interviewed is named “Salazar”.
    Any relationship to “Ken Salazar”?

  • Charles Martel

    I think it’s racist because it second guesses the great good that came from the violent suppression and reshuffling of Amerind genes: The emergence of The Second Sacajewea, Elizabeth Warren.

  • MacG

    IIRC, this did not happen at a school and is not a good tool as it is easily refuted or at least have the shadow of doubt thrown on it.  We conservatives have enough of a hard time without giving them a reason like this to hand wave us off as a fact manufacturing, sensationalist bunch.

  • MacG

    IIRC, this did not happen at a school and is not a good tool as it is easily refuted or at least have the shadow of doubt thrown on it.  We conservatives have enough of a hard time without giving them a reason like this to hand wave us off as a fact manufacturing, sensationalist bunch.

  • Robert Arvanitis

    As MacG notes, we are the party of reason and must always confirm our facts.
    But as a structural move, Bookworm is brilliant.
    When the left holds the levers of power, we must rub their noses in the evils of “big government.” Force THEM to own the past.  Watch them inevitably retreat to “But it’s not fascism when WE do it…”  Then mock them for whiners.
    Hit them in the emotions, which is their habitat.

  • http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com Ymarsakar

    The intent is nice, but I’m not sure about the accuracy of their tactics.

  • Dennis Elliott

    The picture is from the Kamloops Indian Residential School in British Columbia. No one was massacred there. The 1890 Massacre was at Wounded Knee and resulted from trying to disarm the Indians. So:gun control, yes; Massacre, yes; School, no.

  • Danny Lemieux

    Although, Dennis, if that was a modern government school referenced in the picture, it could legitimately be accused of massacring Indian intellects. 

  • Dennis Elliott

    Touche

  • http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com Ymarsakar

    The US forces back then had more reason to be wary of Indians and responding with force against non compliance than the Feds did at Ruby Ridge and WACO.
     
     

  • http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com Ymarsakar

    Reason, btw, is pretty worthless when utilizing propaganda, posters or not. It’s emotions that must be harnessed, not logic or reasons. Using reason as part of propaganda’s primary weapon is like using water pistols to power one’s army. You will only be effective if you are ruthless enough to use acid water.

  • http://furtheradventuresofindigored.blogspot.com/ Indigo Red

    In the previous post of the first image, I pointed out it’s of the originally Wounded Knee event. The point of the image concerned school shootings in light of the current gun debate and the Sandy Hook school shooting. Wounded Knee Massacre didn’t involve a school, so is a false comparison.
     
    The second image is vague enough to make its point – don’t trust government when it demands the turning in of guns. I’ve been researching the photo and the IDs of the three Indians shown, but have found no names. The only thing I can identify is that they are plains Indians from 1876 or later, probably later by 10 or so years.
     
    I did find, however, that many commenters on the various news stories have stated the photo points up the many time the US government has broken Indian treaties in the past. In fact, there in not one of over 300 treaties the US has made with Native Americans that has no been broken. What I find interesting is that a majority of Americans, I would guess also many of the same commenters decrying the treaty breaking, are not at all concerned that in order to construct the Keystone XL pipeline, treaties with the Lakota and the Crow will be broken because the pipeline must pass over surface ground and ground water that the two tribes control by three treaties. The government is bound to negotiate any passage across the land and the aquifer and gain the approval of the tribes before any such projects as Keystone can proceed. That is why the exiting pipeline goes around the Lakota and crow reservations. It seems we are very concerned about the past breaking of Indian treaties, but not so much the treaty breaking currently in progress. 

  • Danny Lemieux

    Very interesting, Indigo Red! Will the Indians make an issue of this or are they too deep in the pockets of the Democrat machine?
     

  • Mike Devx

    There appears to be a big new meme push on the left concerning gun control in the “Wild Wild West” from 1865-1900.  A liberal friend of mine pushed the information to me today with some extremely large amount of glee.
     
    Apparently, in that time period, some of the largest frontier towns (eg Dodge City and Tombstone) and even entire states (eg Kansas) instituted strict controls prohibiting the carrying of guns in public.  There was an 1878 picture circulating in recent days of Dodge City with a big sign saying “The carrying of firearms in public is prohibited”, a sign posted right in the middle of a large street.
     
    I was ignorant of this, and thanked my friend for the additional information – which was surprising information to me!  Then I pointed out that this merely indicated that in SOME cities and SOME states, you couldn’t carry guns in public.  It said nothing about what people could own, and it said nothing about the government making any kind of guns illegal, nor the government seizing guns, nor the registration of guns so that the government knew which citizen owned which gun.
     
    I haven’t pointed out yet that such laws post-Civil War, across the frontier zones, is most analogous to “gun-free zones” that we have today in cities, and that everyone acknowledges that gun-free zones are legal, whether or not they’re a good idea.  So for me this is merely additional information that changes the debate not one whit.
     
    I haven’t heard back yet.
     
    I’m fascinated too by the sudden explosion of this meme across the left.  He sent me a fairly large number of links supporting this information.  From many usual liberal suspects.  Apparently to them this is a big exciting game-changer. (Huh?)  I’m most interested in: Is this a new coordinated campaign, or did someone come up with this information and then post it, and then the other usual suspects liked it, grabbed it, and ran with it, creating naturally a bit of a leftist meme surge?  (In other words, did this happen as a coordinated propaganda push, or did it arise naturally?  I’d like to know which; it fascinates me.)
     

  • http://furtheradventuresofindigored.blogspot.com/ Indigo Red

    Danny Lemieux, the Indians are resisting and protesting. A few weeks ago the Lakota Council at Pine Ridge passed a resolution denouncing the trespass and enumerated the Treaties being violated. The Sec. of Interior has not responded. in the last two months, the construction trucks have been physically stopped at the Rez border with several Indians being arrested. They’ve a name for the protest – Moccasins  on the Ground.

  • http://furtheradventuresofindigored.blogspot.com/ Indigo Red

    Mike Devx – the “no-gun-totin’ was common during the cattle drive era. Many of the towns adopting the regulation were towns in which the Earps were marshalling. In the half dozen years of the great cattle drives that earned the term Wild West, Dodge City had a one year murder rate high of 4 (four). In Mexican Los Angeles, California has over 200 murders in the same year. The Earps carried the no-gun-toting regulation to Tombstone, AZ which was one more reason that led to the famous gunfight at the OK Corral which was just outside the city limit. The Cowboys, Democrats, didn’t like the regulation or the Republican Earps in T-stone any more than they did in Dodge City, Ellsworth, and Abilene. Politics were very integral to the violent clashes in these old west towns. The Earps have come down to us as “gunfighters” with our understanding that gunfighters were the bad guys. In the parlance of the day, gunfighters were the guys who acted against the illegal use of guns while “gun handlers” were the bad guys using guns illegally.